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coolidge
Guest
> If that is so, then why didn't you write that Bennett was
> not heard on WEZE or WROL, but was heard on WTTT? It just
> seemed that you wrote what you did in order to prove
> "InsideTrakk" wrong, rather than provide information to the
> rest of the Boston board.
Jesus, talk about nitpicking. I didn't volunteer that extra information because I assume most people reading this board already know which station is the Salem affiliate in greater Boston. Parklane's mention of two religious stations rather than Bennett's actual affiliate was seemingly done on purpose, as he has attacked Bennett on his supposed lack of Christian bona fides elsewhere on this site.
> not heard on WEZE or WROL, but was heard on WTTT? It just
> seemed that you wrote what you did in order to prove
> "InsideTrakk" wrong, rather than provide information to the
> rest of the Boston board.
Jesus, talk about nitpicking. I didn't volunteer that extra information because I assume most people reading this board already know which station is the Salem affiliate in greater Boston. Parklane's mention of two religious stations rather than Bennett's actual affiliate was seemingly done on purpose, as he has attacked Bennett on his supposed lack of Christian bona fides elsewhere on this site.
C
coolidge
Guest
Re: Getting back to the issue at hand.....
> A question for all -- do you think Boston would support a
> talk show hosted by an African American?
If it was a good show the race of the host would make no difference.
> A question for all -- do you think Boston would support a
> talk show hosted by an African American?
If it was a good show the race of the host would make no difference.
M
Mickey37
Guest
Re: Getting back to the issue at hand.....
Yes, but I can see how some would say stations aren't doing enough to find African American talent. This is a good-sized market; I do not understand why there are no black voices on any of the big stations on a daily basis.
> > A question for all -- do you think Boston would support a
> > talk show hosted by an African American?
>
> If it was a good show the race of the host would make no
> difference.
>
Yes, but I can see how some would say stations aren't doing enough to find African American talent. This is a good-sized market; I do not understand why there are no black voices on any of the big stations on a daily basis.
> > A question for all -- do you think Boston would support a
> > talk show hosted by an African American?
>
> If it was a good show the race of the host would make no
> difference.
>
Re: Um... are there any female talk show hosts?
> Just askin'.
>
Stephanie Miller, Laura Ingraham, Arlene Violet, Marjorie Eagan, Margerie Clapprood (once upon a time), Rachel Maddow, Janeane Garofolo, Randi
Rhodes, Deborah "Arnie" Arnesen, Dr. Laura, Dr. Joy Browne, Rollye
James (libertarian who SHOULD be heard here, at least for the Friday
Night Trivia!)
> Just askin'.
>
Stephanie Miller, Laura Ingraham, Arlene Violet, Marjorie Eagan, Margerie Clapprood (once upon a time), Rachel Maddow, Janeane Garofolo, Randi
Rhodes, Deborah "Arnie" Arnesen, Dr. Laura, Dr. Joy Browne, Rollye
James (libertarian who SHOULD be heard here, at least for the Friday
Night Trivia!)
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cabradio
Guest
Re: Um... are there any female talk show hosts?
Debbie Nigro (lifestyle radio network), Cullum and Silk (radio america), Tammy Bruce (talk radio network)<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
Debbie Nigro (lifestyle radio network), Cullum and Silk (radio america), Tammy Bruce (talk radio network)<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
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MrAl
Guest
Mark Riley on Air America...
not local but the co-host of the show heard on the local Air America outlet... an African-American...
not local but the co-host of the show heard on the local Air America outlet... an African-American...
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compact
Guest
Re: I mean IN BOSTON.
> Local.
>
> On WBZ? Nope.
>
> I don't know who's on WRKO or the FM talker.
>
I have heard you on WBZ and you have all the talent to do your own program. Heard you on with Jordan Rich a few weeks ago. You have many talents. Give it a try. We need more women on local talk. Margery Eagan is the only one local I think.
> Local.
>
> On WBZ? Nope.
>
> I don't know who's on WRKO or the FM talker.
>
I have heard you on WBZ and you have all the talent to do your own program. Heard you on with Jordan Rich a few weeks ago. You have many talents. Give it a try. We need more women on local talk. Margery Eagan is the only one local I think.
C
coolidge
Guest
Re: I mean IN BOSTON.
> > Local.
> >
> > On WBZ? Nope.
> >
> > I don't know who's on WRKO or the FM talker.
> >
> I have heard you on WBZ
I have read you, parklane, earlier in this thread! Of course, you had a different ID.
> > Local.
> >
> > On WBZ? Nope.
> >
> > I don't know who's on WRKO or the FM talker.
> >
> I have heard you on WBZ
I have read you, parklane, earlier in this thread! Of course, you had a different ID.
D
doc9464
Guest
Chuck D and WLIB personality Gi'ana Garel host a new show called "On the Real" Weekends for AAR - covers issues as diverse as music and news - with the idea to bring out concerns for African Americans....its a good show so far.
Kyle Jason, a local NYC African-American deejay/music producer, hosts a show on AAR called "The Kyle Jason Show" - music focused, but spreads to some liberal issues
Mark Riley, former WLIB personality, co-hosts Marc Maron - does the Katheryn Lampher role for Mark Maron but can host the show alone and does regularly - very adept interviewer as well as experieneced radio person
Wayne Gellman still does the news / Joannne Allen recently departed.....
Thats the bulk of the AAR African-American on air staff...
WLIB continues to broadcast african-american broadcasting locally
> > Didn't Air America have Chuck D on as a "regular" of their
>
> > morning show,
> > maybe still is?
>
> He was a daily host on "Unfiltered", which is no longer in
> production and has been replaced by Jerry Springer.
> Unfiltered was never heard on WKOX/WXKS in Boston.
>
> > Sean Hannity has featured some conservative black figures
> on
> > his show as
> > callers/guests including Roy and Niger Innis of the
> Congress
> > of Racial
> > Equality and Kevin Martin from
> > Project 21
>
> Of course there are national African American hosts. I'd
> believed that the original topic was about the lack of local
> hosts, and if was, it's a good argument.
>
Kyle Jason, a local NYC African-American deejay/music producer, hosts a show on AAR called "The Kyle Jason Show" - music focused, but spreads to some liberal issues
Mark Riley, former WLIB personality, co-hosts Marc Maron - does the Katheryn Lampher role for Mark Maron but can host the show alone and does regularly - very adept interviewer as well as experieneced radio person
Wayne Gellman still does the news / Joannne Allen recently departed.....
Thats the bulk of the AAR African-American on air staff...
WLIB continues to broadcast african-american broadcasting locally
> > Didn't Air America have Chuck D on as a "regular" of their
>
> > morning show,
> > maybe still is?
>
> He was a daily host on "Unfiltered", which is no longer in
> production and has been replaced by Jerry Springer.
> Unfiltered was never heard on WKOX/WXKS in Boston.
>
> > Sean Hannity has featured some conservative black figures
> on
> > his show as
> > callers/guests including Roy and Niger Innis of the
> Congress
> > of Racial
> > Equality and Kevin Martin from
> > Project 21
>
> Of course there are national African American hosts. I'd
> believed that the original topic was about the lack of local
> hosts, and if was, it's a good argument.
>
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compact
Guest
You Have To Be Kidding
You have to be kidding me. I can list endlessly Black African Americans whose command of the English language would put the Chairman of Harvard's English Department to shame.
It says on your Bio that you live on the East Side. That could be Providence or it could mean you are out to sea. I will let others decide which might be more accurate.
By the way, I believe our Moderator on the Boston Board, Charlie Profitt, is an African American. I am sure Mr. Profitt would strongly disagree with your mistaken assumption.
< ORIGINAL QUOTE DELETED >
> > Surely Air America will show it's a progressive network by
>
> > putting a black
> > host on full time.
> >
> > > Isn't about time a WBZ a WRKO or a WTKK hired a
> full-time
> > > qualified Black talk host- man or woman. I know there
> are
> >
> > > many qualified candidates out there and they are needed
> to
> >
> > > address the likes of Bill Bennett.
> > >
> > ______________
> >
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by classicradionut on 10/02/05 07:05 PM.</FONT></P>
You have to be kidding me. I can list endlessly Black African Americans whose command of the English language would put the Chairman of Harvard's English Department to shame.
It says on your Bio that you live on the East Side. That could be Providence or it could mean you are out to sea. I will let others decide which might be more accurate.
By the way, I believe our Moderator on the Boston Board, Charlie Profitt, is an African American. I am sure Mr. Profitt would strongly disagree with your mistaken assumption.
< ORIGINAL QUOTE DELETED >
> > Surely Air America will show it's a progressive network by
>
> > putting a black
> > host on full time.
> >
> > > Isn't about time a WBZ a WRKO or a WTKK hired a
> full-time
> > > qualified Black talk host- man or woman. I know there
> are
> >
> > > many qualified candidates out there and they are needed
> to
> >
> > > address the likes of Bill Bennett.
> > >
> > ______________
> >
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by classicradionut on 10/02/05 07:05 PM.</FONT></P>
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classicradionut
Guest
This is NOT about discrimination, so STOP NOW!
> Radio has been able to get away with its dirty little secret
> of racial discrimination because it is not a visual medium.
>
Okay, lets put this to bed RIGHT NOW. The fact that there aren't many black talk show hosts in Boston has nothing to do with RACIAL DISCRIMINATION. You guys are way WAY off base.
Whether it's been wrong place, wrong time, or something else, the bottom line here is the same reason as to why it's so difficult for new jocks to get anywhere in this business. Radio stays with the same recycled hosts over and over again from one market to another because they are SAFE. Radio management does not like to take chances, whether it's music, jocks or talk show hosts. THAT'S the reason why. Nothing else.
You guys who are screaming discrimination should pull your head out of your collective gluteus-maximus and get with it!!
Don't.... I mean DO NOT start a discrimination thread on this board. You've all been warned!
<P ID="signature">______________
</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by classicradionut on 10/02/05 07:18 PM.</FONT></P>
> Radio has been able to get away with its dirty little secret
> of racial discrimination because it is not a visual medium.
>
Okay, lets put this to bed RIGHT NOW. The fact that there aren't many black talk show hosts in Boston has nothing to do with RACIAL DISCRIMINATION. You guys are way WAY off base.
Whether it's been wrong place, wrong time, or something else, the bottom line here is the same reason as to why it's so difficult for new jocks to get anywhere in this business. Radio stays with the same recycled hosts over and over again from one market to another because they are SAFE. Radio management does not like to take chances, whether it's music, jocks or talk show hosts. THAT'S the reason why. Nothing else.
You guys who are screaming discrimination should pull your head out of your collective gluteus-maximus and get with it!!
Don't.... I mean DO NOT start a discrimination thread on this board. You've all been warned!
<P ID="signature">______________
</P><P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by classicradionut on 10/02/05 07:18 PM.</FONT></P>
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ADC
Guest
Re: This is NOT about discrimination, so STOP NOW!
I agree that it's not about discrimination and I think that the people that are bringing this up are just trying to make trouble. On the other hand, anytime any sensitive subject appears on this board the moderators jump in and kill it. I find that more offensive then the objectional subject matter.
Why does this go on? Have there been legal treats or do the moderators just want to kill any topic that might make for a lively discussion on the board?
- Al
> > Radio has been able to get away with its dirty little
> secret
> > of racial discrimination because it is not a visual
> medium.
> >
>
> Okay, lets put this to bed RIGHT NOW. The fact that there
> aren't many black talk show hosts in Boston has nothing to
> do with RACIAL DISCRIMINATION. You guys are way WAY off
> base.
>
> Whether it's been wrong place, wrong time, or something
> else, the bottom line here is the same reason as to why it's
> so difficult for new jocks to get anywhere in this business.
> Radio stays with the same recycled hosts over and over
> again from one market to another because they are SAFE.
> Radio management does not like to take chances, whether it's
> music, jocks or talk show hosts. THAT'S the reason why.
> Nothing else.
>
> You guys who are screaming discrimination should pull your
> head out of your collective gluteus-maximus and get with
> it!!
>
> Don't.... I mean DO NOT start a discrimination thread on
> this board. You've all been warned!
>
I agree that it's not about discrimination and I think that the people that are bringing this up are just trying to make trouble. On the other hand, anytime any sensitive subject appears on this board the moderators jump in and kill it. I find that more offensive then the objectional subject matter.
Why does this go on? Have there been legal treats or do the moderators just want to kill any topic that might make for a lively discussion on the board?
- Al
> > Radio has been able to get away with its dirty little
> secret
> > of racial discrimination because it is not a visual
> medium.
> >
>
> Okay, lets put this to bed RIGHT NOW. The fact that there
> aren't many black talk show hosts in Boston has nothing to
> do with RACIAL DISCRIMINATION. You guys are way WAY off
> base.
>
> Whether it's been wrong place, wrong time, or something
> else, the bottom line here is the same reason as to why it's
> so difficult for new jocks to get anywhere in this business.
> Radio stays with the same recycled hosts over and over
> again from one market to another because they are SAFE.
> Radio management does not like to take chances, whether it's
> music, jocks or talk show hosts. THAT'S the reason why.
> Nothing else.
>
> You guys who are screaming discrimination should pull your
> head out of your collective gluteus-maximus and get with
> it!!
>
> Don't.... I mean DO NOT start a discrimination thread on
> this board. You've all been warned!
>
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cabradio
Guest
Re: You Have To Be Kidding
> By the way, I believe our Moderator on the Boston Board,
> Charlie Profitt, is an African American. I am sure Mr.
> Profitt would strongly disagree with your mistaken
> assumption.
I am not African American, however "compact", you are correct that I strongly disagree with such an absurd assumption.
<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> By the way, I believe our Moderator on the Boston Board,
> Charlie Profitt, is an African American. I am sure Mr.
> Profitt would strongly disagree with your mistaken
> assumption.
I am not African American, however "compact", you are correct that I strongly disagree with such an absurd assumption.
<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
C
compact
Guest
Re: You Have To Be Kidding
Well, we may all be of African ancestry since **** sapiens it is believed originated on that continent. All in all it goes to prove how foolish discrimination based on color is. Thank you for the correction.
> > By the way, I believe our Moderator on the Boston Board,
> > Charlie Profitt, is an African American. I am sure Mr.
> > Profitt would strongly disagree with your mistaken
> > assumption.
>
>
> I am not African American, however "compact", you are
> correct that I strongly disagree with such an absurd
> assumption.
>
Well, we may all be of African ancestry since **** sapiens it is believed originated on that continent. All in all it goes to prove how foolish discrimination based on color is. Thank you for the correction.
> > By the way, I believe our Moderator on the Boston Board,
> > Charlie Profitt, is an African American. I am sure Mr.
> > Profitt would strongly disagree with your mistaken
> > assumption.
>
>
> I am not African American, however "compact", you are
> correct that I strongly disagree with such an absurd
> assumption.
>
C
compact
Guest
Re: This is NOT about discrimination, so STOP NOW!
May I respectfully ask what was wrong with my post about the "parable"?
As one of my law professors would say, "It was on all fours" ie. on point.
Discrimination is subtle and devious. I trust with you experience in this medium that your take on the issue is valid. However, it does not address the issue that televsion because it is a visual medium overcame the obstacle you believe exist in radio that prevent more Black Americans from becoming successful talk hosts. Are you saying that because we the listeners don't "see" the discrimination radio management does not think it exists? We can always do better.
Finally, can we discuss an issue like this as intelligent adults without getting angry with each other. If we could end problems such as discrimination with edicts that say such problems don't exist "Because I Say They Don't Exist" the world might be a better place but that works about as well as a parent dismissing a child's question he does not want to answer. In this case we are all adults at least chrononlogically. "SAFE" is not always good enough.
> > Radio has been able to get away with its dirty little
> secret
> > of racial discrimination because it is not a visual
> medium.
> >
>
> Okay, lets put this to bed RIGHT NOW. The fact that there
> aren't many black talk show hosts in Boston has nothing to
> do with IRACIAL DISCRIMINATION. You guys are way WAY off
> base.
>
> Whether it's been wrong place, wrong time, or something
> else, the bottom line here is the same reason as to why it's
> so difficult for new jocks to get anywhere in this business.
> Radio stays with the same recycled hosts over and over
> again from one market to another because they are SAFE.
> Radio management does not like to take chances, whether it's
> music, jocks or talk show hosts. THAT'S the reason why.
> Nothing else.
>
> You guys who are screaming discrimination should pull your
> head out of your collective gluteus-maximus and get with
> it!!
>
> Don't.... I mean DO NOT start a discrimination thread on
> this board. You've all been warned!
>
May I respectfully ask what was wrong with my post about the "parable"?
As one of my law professors would say, "It was on all fours" ie. on point.
Discrimination is subtle and devious. I trust with you experience in this medium that your take on the issue is valid. However, it does not address the issue that televsion because it is a visual medium overcame the obstacle you believe exist in radio that prevent more Black Americans from becoming successful talk hosts. Are you saying that because we the listeners don't "see" the discrimination radio management does not think it exists? We can always do better.
Finally, can we discuss an issue like this as intelligent adults without getting angry with each other. If we could end problems such as discrimination with edicts that say such problems don't exist "Because I Say They Don't Exist" the world might be a better place but that works about as well as a parent dismissing a child's question he does not want to answer. In this case we are all adults at least chrononlogically. "SAFE" is not always good enough.
> > Radio has been able to get away with its dirty little
> secret
> > of racial discrimination because it is not a visual
> medium.
> >
>
> Okay, lets put this to bed RIGHT NOW. The fact that there
> aren't many black talk show hosts in Boston has nothing to
> do with IRACIAL DISCRIMINATION. You guys are way WAY off
> base.
>
> Whether it's been wrong place, wrong time, or something
> else, the bottom line here is the same reason as to why it's
> so difficult for new jocks to get anywhere in this business.
> Radio stays with the same recycled hosts over and over
> again from one market to another because they are SAFE.
> Radio management does not like to take chances, whether it's
> music, jocks or talk show hosts. THAT'S the reason why.
> Nothing else.
>
> You guys who are screaming discrimination should pull your
> head out of your collective gluteus-maximus and get with
> it!!
>
> Don't.... I mean DO NOT start a discrimination thread on
> this board. You've all been warned!
>
> Jesus, talk about nitpicking.
Hey, you started it.
> Parklane's mention of two religious stations rather
> than Bennett's actual affiliate was seemingly done on
> purpose, as he has attacked Bennett on his supposed lack of
> Christian bona fides elsewhere on this site.
I see "InsideTrakk"'s statement as simply confusion by the author, but if you see it as a bias, so be it. It would make sense if the author is who you believe it to be.
I'd guess that this brings the discussion to an end.
Hey, you started it.
> Parklane's mention of two religious stations rather
> than Bennett's actual affiliate was seemingly done on
> purpose, as he has attacked Bennett on his supposed lack of
> Christian bona fides elsewhere on this site.
I see "InsideTrakk"'s statement as simply confusion by the author, but if you see it as a bias, so be it. It would make sense if the author is who you believe it to be.
I'd guess that this brings the discussion to an end.
M
Mickey37
Guest
Re: This is NOT about discrimination, so STOP NOW!
Right on, Al. Why cannot we have a free exchange of ideas here? Granted, this board is geared toward discussion of radio, but when other social issues come up, if we sweep them under the rug, isn't that adding to the problem (actual or perceived)?
> I agree that it's not about discrimination and I think that
> the people that are bringing this up are just trying to make
> trouble. On the other hand, anytime any sensitive subject
> appears on this board the moderators jump in and kill it. I
> find that more offensive then the objectional subject
> matter.
>
> Why does this go on? Have there been legal treats or do the
> moderators just want to kill any topic that might make for a
> lively discussion on the board?
>
> - Al
>
> > > Radio has been able to get away with its dirty little
> > secret
> > > of racial discrimination because it is not a visual
> > medium.
> > >
> >
> > Okay, lets put this to bed RIGHT NOW. The fact that there
>
> > aren't many black talk show hosts in Boston has nothing to
>
> > do with RACIAL DISCRIMINATION. You guys are way WAY off
> > base.
> >
> > Whether it's been wrong place, wrong time, or something
> > else, the bottom line here is the same reason as to why
> it's
> > so difficult for new jocks to get anywhere in this
> business.
> > Radio stays with the same recycled hosts over and over
> > again from one market to another because they are SAFE.
> > Radio management does not like to take chances, whether
> it's
> > music, jocks or talk show hosts. THAT'S the reason why.
> > Nothing else.
> >
> > You guys who are screaming discrimination should pull your
>
> > head out of your collective gluteus-maximus and get with
> > it!!
> >
> > Don't.... I mean DO NOT start a discrimination thread on
> > this board. You've all been warned!
> >
>
Right on, Al. Why cannot we have a free exchange of ideas here? Granted, this board is geared toward discussion of radio, but when other social issues come up, if we sweep them under the rug, isn't that adding to the problem (actual or perceived)?
> I agree that it's not about discrimination and I think that
> the people that are bringing this up are just trying to make
> trouble. On the other hand, anytime any sensitive subject
> appears on this board the moderators jump in and kill it. I
> find that more offensive then the objectional subject
> matter.
>
> Why does this go on? Have there been legal treats or do the
> moderators just want to kill any topic that might make for a
> lively discussion on the board?
>
> - Al
>
> > > Radio has been able to get away with its dirty little
> > secret
> > > of racial discrimination because it is not a visual
> > medium.
> > >
> >
> > Okay, lets put this to bed RIGHT NOW. The fact that there
>
> > aren't many black talk show hosts in Boston has nothing to
>
> > do with RACIAL DISCRIMINATION. You guys are way WAY off
> > base.
> >
> > Whether it's been wrong place, wrong time, or something
> > else, the bottom line here is the same reason as to why
> it's
> > so difficult for new jocks to get anywhere in this
> business.
> > Radio stays with the same recycled hosts over and over
> > again from one market to another because they are SAFE.
> > Radio management does not like to take chances, whether
> it's
> > music, jocks or talk show hosts. THAT'S the reason why.
> > Nothing else.
> >
> > You guys who are screaming discrimination should pull your
>
> > head out of your collective gluteus-maximus and get with
> > it!!
> >
> > Don't.... I mean DO NOT start a discrimination thread on
> > this board. You've all been warned!
> >
>
L
Les
Guest
Re: You Have To Be Kidding
> Well, we may all be of African ancestry since **** sapiens
> it is believed originated on that continent. All in all it
> goes to prove how foolish discrimination based on color is.
> Thank you for the correction.
African in the continental sense, surely. Proven by this
thread wherein it becometh clear that we humans are DEvolved
from the great apes. Not a great deal of Intelligence in
our Creation......<P ID="signature">______________
"I am free of all prejudice. I hate everyone equally." --W.C. Fields</P>
> Well, we may all be of African ancestry since **** sapiens
> it is believed originated on that continent. All in all it
> goes to prove how foolish discrimination based on color is.
> Thank you for the correction.
African in the continental sense, surely. Proven by this
thread wherein it becometh clear that we humans are DEvolved
from the great apes. Not a great deal of Intelligence in
our Creation......<P ID="signature">______________
"I am free of all prejudice. I hate everyone equally." --W.C. Fields</P>
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