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WIBBAGE FM IS BACK!

I have to jump in and take exception to the premise that just because you change the name, that's not what the station becomes. At the risk of opening a huge can of worms, let's objectively look at WCBS-FM.

Everybody's screaming, " CBS-FM is back". CBS-FM as it once was is not back. It's not a bad sounding radio station, but WCBS-FM's name change back to WCBS-FM was a brilliant marketing move, not a programming move.

Before launching Jack, CBS-FM was dicking, if you will, with the venerable WCBS-FM, trying to lower the average demographics. Unsatisfied with the progress, they blew the station up and launched Jack. For several years in New York, The CBS Group had Jack, and Mix 102.7 on WNEW-FM. Under the moniker of WCBS-FM, and their campaign to " bring back CBS-FM", they combined the desired demos they had been targeting with the two previous stations. WCBS-FM is 70% Jack, 20% Mix 102.7, and ten percent of its former self.

CBS is on the streets selling the exact same demos they were with Jack and Mix...except they have successfully and brilliantly re-branded it all as " CBS-FM Is Back"

How does this relate to WIBG-FM.

It's reconnecting to a brand name that to many people in the region is still positive. Wibbage. The challenge now is for the station to match the product with the brand name, get the music and the presentation correct, distinguish itself from the current crop of " classic hits" stations who wouldn't think of using the "O" word, and be very smart about marketing the station and building cume.

Be the " Be My Baby" station, not the " Enough Is Enough Is Enough" station. It has the opportunity to get a lot of people who have all but written radio off, to be excited, reconnect with the emotional involvement they once had with radio. Even if you think they're crazy...their success would be good for all of us.

I've been right about a lot of things, and wrong about a lot of things. When I first heard that WKXW-FM was going to do a hybrid of Oldies and Talk on FM, I was more than skeptical. Maybe, just maybe, when you do something other than serve up the same crap everybody is serving, you can break through.

If Wibbage FM works...maybe another broadcaster will grow a pair and do something that focusus on "what can we put on our station that would attract listeners to it", instead of " what can we take off of our station that they won't miss".

As a lover of the medium, I hope they do it right and make it.
 
Life and business = 'RISK'.... Everything we do on this planet involves 'RISK'.... Funny? Radio seems to take un-calculated 'RISK' in removing things from their stewardship, while 'scared to death' to take 'RISK' in trying something new! Thank God The Beatles took that "Sgt Pepper's" 'RISK', after hearing the Beach Boys (Pet Sounds) and The Stones (Satanic Majesty's Request)... "Something New"... Great words that were used in a US Beatles LP release! ;) Maybe "Cabbage" would be a good moniker for a station! Go get 'em little WIBBAGE! I wish you the best......
 
Just announced: Beginning next week, the morning voice of Wibbage-FM will be Diamond Jim Nettleton.
 
For those of you listening. You may have woke up this morning Tuned in ,and already noticed a Difference.
Has anyone noticed?
I still have more work to do, But its a major improvement

Neal.
Engineer For the New WIBBAGE 94.3
 
just call me Ralph said:
For those of you listening. You may have woke up this morning Tuned in ,and already noticed a Difference.

Yeah a long period of dead air. What was that all about?

What's with "The Boss is Back" on the website?
WIBG was NEVER "The Boss" that was WFIL and later Boss 97.

strange
 
I'd give some leaway to getting the bugs worked out.. And, if I may assume, they probably mean "Boss" in the era that people my age think of in terms of the great Top-40 battles between 990 and 560..... Is the new "Wibbage" streaming for us in the outer parts of "The Great American Flylover"? :p
 
just call me Ralph said:
Zackster said:
just call me Ralph said:
For those of you listening. You may have woke up this morning Tuned in ,and already noticed a Difference.

Yeah a long period of dead air. What was that all about?

Sorry Zackster. last nights storm Clobbered the Verizon STL feed.
Presently running on a backup line. in the next day or so. when Verizon gets its act together things will Be back tothe NEW normal.
at least the backup is running under the new Processing chain .
No more of that Basement Audio.

Neal-Engineer
the New WIBBAGE 94.3
 
And just announced starting next week from 2-6 PM....former legendary 1360 WNJC powered brokered disc jockey...Mike Phillips debuts. Reports were found out when the engineers had to expand and widened the control booth. He was signed to a 19 month stimulus contract and I'm sure Mike will bailout the troubled WILW with his mature personality, comprehension, and grammar.
Mike's been residing down the Jersey shore these days and it couldn't been a better fit (once they expand the booth) with his expertise in programming. Plus I know the 32 year old man can Twitter.
 
This is way too fun to ignore!

I was the Program Director of WSLT-AM from 1977-1979. I had been at WOND but frankly, the management at the time was not very kind to me, so I went to work for Salt-Tee Radio - owners of WSLT AM&FM. I put a Top 40 format on the AM, with a mix of oldies and lots of compression and echo, the old Top 40 sound. I hired Jackson T. Chase from WMID, a well-known talent at the time (and even today). We were doing good, audience response was fantastic. But we were a daytime station..it killed me. WKBW-AM, 1520 from Buffalo would come in like a local after we signed off. So I decided to make the best of a bad situation. I listened to "KB Radio" and used variations of their slogans and contests (The Album Rush, "The Big 15" etc). My plan worked because it was not too long after that concept that we began getting people calling OUR contest lines at night (when we were off the air) to win contests they were hearing on KB Radio. We would even get requests too long after we were signed off. Love those listeners! Anyway, one day after learning of WIBG's change to WZZD, I mentioned to the WSLT Station Manager Ron Miller how much I'd love to get the WIBG call letters - "If You loved WIBBAGE in Philly, You'll Love it MORE at the SHORE" was my thinking. Ron made inquiries and we grabbed the call letters, much to the dismay of Kevin Metheny ("Pig Vomit" - Howard Stern) who made a very angry phone call to me threatening legal action due to his fear of "diary confusion".

I think if I remember my words correctly, it was something like..."Tough Shit".

WIBG-AM "The Big 15" performed very well in the ratings. The audience reaction was unreal - and many Philly TV stations covered the call letter change "event" which got us a lot of free press. In fact, Sam Lit and his Dad Hy had wanted to be a part of the station - and Joe Niagara (who I later worked with at WPEN) was very interested in doing a weekly oldies remote broadcast on the boardwalk. Joe's contract at WPEN would not allow it, and the Hy and Sam Lit possibility didn't happen because it would have meant creating a position that didn't exist without terminating Jack Chase, something I would have never done.

I left the "first" WIBG at the shore in 1979 to go fulltime at WPEN, but those days were some of the greatest times I spent in the business. I wish the "new" WIBG-FM a world of luck and success!
 
Hey Neal-
With you on board, the station is in great hands. Ya gotta fix the streaming audio. Levels are all over the place, last time I listened a few days ago. I noticed a similar issue with WCZT..I like that little station, but one minute you're getting blasted by a sweeper, then you have to increase gain to hear the song.
 
I wonder how many times billing that is! Rick got rooked. Waaay too much money for that property. Sounds like Coastal was hitting on hard times if they needed to sell WILW. Gotta hand it to them, though, it's a good deal....for them.
 
Let me suggest that paying $5 Mil for WJSE, a Class A Cape May County stick is paying too much. Especially knowing Howard Stern was in the last year of his contract.

Maybe Tom Mc remembers the price of Rio Grande's 102.3? WDOX 93.1? WFNN 98.7?
 
amfmsw said:
Let me suggest that paying $5 Mil for WJSE, a Class A Cape May County stick is paying too much. Especially knowing Howard Stern was in the last year of his contract.

Maybe Tom Mc remembers the price of Rio Grande's 102.3? WDOX 93.1? WFNN 98.7?

Cape May County Class A stations have been all over the place ... Millennium sold WKOE for
over $ 3 million (of course the fact that we discovered that it could be moved North helped)

In the early 90's, the 93.1 WDOX and 106.7 WJNN construction permits could have been
had for about $ 50,000 each. WDOX later sold for about $ 750,000 and the new WDOX
(106.7) sold for over a million. WSJL, 102.3 (now WAIV) went for about $ 500,000 as did
WBNJ 105.5 (now WSNQ) Not sure about WFNN ... maybe $ 1.6 million ?

94.3 is the only Class A of the bunch that has any potential at all in Southern Atlantic
County and Ocean City ... in the old days it used to bill over a million a year.
 
Tom McNally said:
amfmsw said:
Let me suggest that paying $5 Mil for WJSE, a Class A Cape May County stick is paying too much. Especially knowing Howard Stern was in the last year of his contract.

Maybe Tom Mc remembers the price of Rio Grande's 102.3? WDOX 93.1? WFNN 98.7?

Cape May County Class A stations have been all over the place ... Millennium sold WKOE for
over $ 3 million (of course the fact that we discovered that it could be moved North helped)

In the early 90's, the 93.1 WDOX and 106.7 WJNN construction permits could have been
had for about $ 50,000 each. WDOX later sold for about $ 750,000 and the new WDOX
(106.7) sold for over a million. WSJL, 102.3 (now WAIV) went for about $ 500,000 as did
WBNJ 105.5 (now WSNQ) Not sure about WFNN ... maybe $ 1.6 million ?

94.3 is the only Class A of the bunch that has any potential at all in Southern Atlantic
County and Ocean City ... in the old days it used to bill over a million a year.


5 million for JSE is off the charts stupid... I can't even calculate that into this thread... we all know that no Class A in Cape May County should EVER sell for that much... even if Howard was pulling in great number... because when he's gone, it's back to regular Cape May Class A you go... so, looking at Tom's post, it looks like most other Class A stations went for 500 - 750k, and I think this station probably should have been 600k, especially in today's economy... so, like I said.. it sold for WAY TOO MUCH... and JSE is an anomaly that will probably never ever ever happen again in that county... Al pulled off something that is extraordinary and has attained "master" status for it... ;-)
 
Re: WIBBAGE FM IS BACK! AND GROWING

WIBBAGE FM is growing, and the response to the format has been nothing
short of phenominal!. As WIBBAGE FM grows, and the facility is soon to be
part of a major upgrade, it becomes so much more than "just" a Cape May County
radio station. Try, Atlantic, Cape May, Cumberland, and beyond.

We are very thankful for the exceptional response, and so many people who
were former Philadelphians, now living in Atlantic and Cape May Counties, the
WIBBAGE branding is beyond our wildest imagination! The Fabulous 60's Wildwood-Wibbage
Weekend was just a foretaste of the excitement WIBBAGE is generating. Its more about
the people and places of the region. As Mayor Ernie Troiano put it. WIBBAGE is not
just about radio.. its about our lives.. it's about connecting with the heart of people.
Guys like Harry Hurley, John Ford, Bill Cain, Josh Hennig, Chuck Betson, Dave Angel.
People with a passion for local programming.

Watch for major power and signal improvements. Try 6Kw at a new height and
transmitter location for starters, and dynamic HD processing, and WIBBAGE FM's
footprint will dramatically expand. After 40 years in this business, there are exceptional
opportunities. Remember working at WBUD-WKXW in '77 and it had been
offered to me by then owner Dick Hardin for $975,000! Sometimes, it's important to look
beyond the current circumstances, and plan for the future. I believe you'll be
very impressed. Still, radio is still about live and local content! Our staff at WIBG1020
and WIBBAGE FM are committed to talking with our listeners at a local level, and deliver
content that our listeners demand.

WIBBAGE FM is a work in progress. Guys like Tom McNally, Mike F. and so many of my
broadcast friends know that. These are deeply respected and admired broadcasters.
With so many conglomerates undergoing change, its cool to be an independent and
jump in with both feet. Let's bring radio back to where it started.. at home.. We have never
been more excited with the changes and growth. This business is so much mre than AM/FM.
Its about program content.. live..local content. We are committed to raising the bar.
I'm blessed with excellent people working with me to deliver what radio was designed to do.
 
If what is being heard on the internet stream is the same as what is over the air it sounds fantastic and the stereo separation is great also, not that CD compressed separation its more like when Diamond was at the helm at WCAU-FM, full blown right and left channels.
 
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