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WILD SOLD?...ACCORDING TO LOCAL SUNDAY TALK SHOW HOST, YES!

WLYNgm said:
Am I offended by these comments? No, just bored by them.
SSDD...

Don't worry. I've said all I'm going to say on this subject. That's until someone steps up and gives CC some competition then I'll come back and say I told you so. :p Lauro my friend portable HD radios are now an affordable 40 bucks. I suggest picking one up to listen to funkytown. Hey its better than nothing. :)
 
R.D.P. said:
Wouldn't it sound logical that if Urban was a money maker, someone else would be catering to it already?
Since Urban doesn't have a big enough audience there, it doesn't make sense to have one right now.R.D.P. <><

At least not on a licensed commercial station, anyway. BUT...since Nature hates a void...this is where the non-licensed broadcasters have done a really nice job serving a niche market that isn't financially viable for any licensed station to "touch"...(pardon the pun). ;)

Some of you out there passionately dislike the so-called "pirates", but they're there for a reason......
 
Early Byrd said:
If anyone is wondering, the last song that WILD played before it's demise as we knew it yesterday evening was "Is It Really Love" by the New Edition. Just as it has been doing, the station abruptly went of the air in the middle of the song without any station identification.

For the record, the song is actually "If It Isn't Love":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReI6gvzVP0Y
 
trock said:
Don't worry. I've said all I'm going to say on this subject. That's until someone steps up and gives CC some competition then I'll come back and say I told you so. :p Lauro my friend portable HD radios are now an affordable 40 bucks. I suggest picking one up to listen to funkytown. Hey its better than nothing. :)

trock, How soon you forget Star 93.7 ??
 
Johnster said:
trock said:
Don't worry. I've said all I'm going to say on this subject. That's until someone steps up and gives CC some competition then I'll come back and say I told you so. :p Lauro my friend portable HD radios are now an affordable 40 bucks. I suggest picking one up to listen to funkytown. Hey its better than nothing. :)

trock, How soon you forget Star 93.7 ??

I'm trying to stay away from this thread but I keep getting poked. ;D Star 93.7 was a joke. It was poorly programmed. Playing played out disco songs over and over again nobody wanted to hear. Then you add the fact that they were extremely late adding currents you have a joke. My theory is that nobody outside of CC local management. Who by the way are doing an outstanding job. I never said that the stations are unlistenable.Their is nobody up their who knows how to program a chr or rhythmic properly. When you see who is getting hired and fired it's usually the same names over and over again. CBS has already gone after weei with great success. Entercom same thing(maybe to a smaller extent) with waaf on 977 making wbcn a non factor. Im a business man too and it makes no sense to me not to try to get a piece of that pie. It has to be that they feel like local personnel is not up to the task. ;)
 
DToTheJ said:
Early Byrd said:
If anyone is wondering, the last song that WILD played before it's demise as we knew it yesterday evening was "Is It Really Love" by the New Edition. Just as it has been doing, the station abruptly went of the air in the middle of the song without any station identification.

For the record, the song is actually "If It Isn't Love":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReI6gvzVP0Y

Hey, hey,hey...no correcting people's mistakes on this board!
 
:mad: all the time I say something here, everyone always get mad at me and say very bad things to me.
Look at the "Banner" newspaper that came out today (Thursday) then you get mad at all those people!!
It's not for me!!!
It's for all the listenners who lost a station that catered and cared for the community, and did so many great things for their listenners.
It's not for me!!
I did recently get some HD Radios, and both times, most times the HD 2 stations did not come in, and when it didn't come in, it was a bad distorted sound. I got both a Table Top HD Radio once, and then an HD Portable radio. Both times it didn't work.
Look at the "Banner" then you get mad at those people. I'm just giving ideas.
For Gods sake, have respect for me. I have respect for you all and never say bad things and insult you all taste, and ideas. So have the same respect for me.
If you can't say anything good to me, keep it to yourself!

As I said before, the only few stations I listen to most times are (Not by choice-at my weekday job "Magic 106.7") Mia 1430am, WEEI, WRKO, 105.7, Mix 104.1, and 96.9 to name a few. I might see what's playing on 93.7, and 92.9 just to hear something different for a quick second.

Other than that, this has nothing to do with what I like, or get an HD Radio.

It's for those listenners

I think "Banner" is online. Look at it!! and then you all get mad at all them, not me!!!

I give ideas, have respect for me please!!
 
Lauro: Nobody is disrespecting you. I for one am just trying to see that you can have more choices with HD. You can get "Funkytown" 24/7 with no commercials. If you got a good FM antenna you can get 93.7 HD2. I don't know where you live, but I live in a low lying area in Salem near Salem State University, and I get it flawlessly, and all I have are VHF rabbit ears. Maybe all you need is a good antenna. I for one would like to see a good adult Urban R&B station in Boston, but I don't have my hopes up.


http://www.baystatebanner.com/local13-2011-06-09
 
LAUROJRM said:
:mad: all the time I say something here, everyone always get mad at me and say very bad things to me.
Look at the "Banner" newspaper that came out today (Thursday) then you get mad at all those people!!
It's not for me!!!
It's for all the listenners who lost a station that catered and cared for the community, and did so many great things for their listenners.
It's not for me!!
I did recently get some HD Radios, and both times, most times the HD 2 stations did not come in, and when it didn't come in, it was a bad distorted sound. I got both a Table Top HD Radio once, and then an HD Portable radio. Both times it didn't work.
Look at the "Banner" then you get mad at those people. I'm just giving ideas.
For Gods sake, have respect for me. I have respect for you all and never say bad things and insult you all taste, and ideas. So have the same respect for me.
If you can't say anything good to me, keep it to yourself!

As I said before, the only few stations I listen to most times are (Not by choice-at my weekday job "Magic 106.7") Mia 1430am, WEEI, WRKO, 105.7, Mix 104.1, and 96.9 to name a few. I might see what's playing on 93.7, and 92.9 just to hear something different for a quick second.

Other than that, this has nothing to do with what I like, or get an HD Radio.

It's for those listenners

I think "Banner" is online. Look at it!! and then you all get mad at all them, not me!!!

I give ideas, have respect for me please!!

Lauro you got to stop taking comments so personally on this board. Radio is run by corporations now and when they look at the demographics it just doesn't add up. They may make a little money but not enough to satisfy their investors. The only legal solution outside of internet only station. Is to find some backing. Hit up one of the struggling AM stations and lease it. Get an online stream advertise the hell out of it around town be aggressive. Make it sound like an upscale urban experience. It could work. :)
 
Mis-spellings aside, what qualifies you to say no one at CC or Entercom "knows how to program...properly"??
How long have you been in Radio? My guess is never.

trock said:
.Their is nobody up their who knows how to program a chr or rhythmic properly. It has to be that they feel like local personnel is not up to the task. ;)
 
Jeez, how old are you, 10? Take it easy!
No one said anything bad to you, nor is anyone mad at you. You've been told that multiple times. You don't give ideas...you give IDEA. One idea. Over and over and over again. I respect your opinion, despite the fact you've been told dozens of times it has no basis in reality.

LAUROJRM said:
:mad: all the time I say something here, everyone always get mad at me and say very bad things to me.
I give ideas, have respect for me please!!
 
NHRadio said:
Mis-spellings aside, what qualifies you to say no one at CC or Entercom "knows how to program...properly"??
How long have you been in Radio? My guess is never.

trock said:
.Their is nobody up their who knows how to program a chr or rhythmic properly. It has to be that they feel like local personnel is not up to the task. ;)

U may want to read my post AGAIN!! I said ENTERCOM and CBS (NOT ME) may think that THERE is nobody in THEIR Boston cluster who can program a chr or rhythmic properly. I also praised the local CC cluster for doing an OUTSTANDING job. If you are going to come at me a least get you facts straight. ::) Have a nice day. :p
 
Thanks to L. Glavin for link; Boston black-oriented paper writes about the WILD flip. "...the mix of Chinese government-approved news, mindless banter and pop tunes by the likes of Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga does not replicate the urban format of Radio One"

http://www.baystatebanner.com/local14-2011-06-09\

(Oops I see now it was linked above! Well, here 'tis again.)

No mention in Globe or Herald. I did leave a comment on Jessica Heslam's media/marketing blog
on the Herald site plus I think I emailed her. Nothing yet in Herald, or Globe.
 
>>If you got a good FM antenna you can get 93.7 HD2. I don't know where you live, but I live in a low lying area in Salem near Salem State University, and I get it flawlessly

Indeed, and my HD portable ($40 on sale, remember) also gets it well here nr the beaches in Beverly. The 93.7 stick of course is easily seen just off Rt 1, I-95/128, etc. A few miles away. It may not seem fair to have to spend $40 or so on an HD radio but most "Walkmen" cost about that much anyway (one particular Sony model is about that much and it just has AM and FM, no HD. Then again the FM-HD portable has no AM, save for the WBZ-AM, WEEI, and WXKS reproduced on
HD signals...so you can't get WJIB on it... )
 
raccoonradio said:
>>If you got a good FM antenna you can get 93.7 HD2. I don't know where you live, but I live in a low lying area in Salem near Salem State University, and I get it flawlessly

Indeed, and my HD portable ($40 on sale, remember) also gets it well here nr the beaches in Beverly. The 93.7 stick of course is easily seen just off Rt 1, I-95/128, etc. A few miles away. It may not seem fair to have to spend $40 or so on an HD radio but most "Walkmen" cost about that much anyway (one particular Sony model is about that much and it just has AM and FM, no HD. Then again the FM-HD portable has no AM, save for the WBZ-AM, WEEI, and WXKS reproduced on
HD signals...so you can't get WJIB on it... )

You know, I checked out the HD-2 of 93.7 and found it to be very disappointing. Hardly a way to fill a hole in the market.

If you look at the "well programmed" CC combo of WXKS and WJMN, they combine to own nearly 20% of the market. TWENTY percent! And nobody dares go after them? What gives? And I see some of you sit here with the "it'll never work" mentality. Come on, do the math.

What could work? A number of alternatives. A well programmed rhythmic CHR to thread the needle between Kiss and Jamn. There is room because Clear Channel has tried not to overlap the stations too much. That also leaves a spot for someone else (hello CBS? Entercom?) to go right for the jugular. Entercom programs 103.7 Kiss-FM in Milwaukee. That particular station actually fits fairly well into what I'd have in mind. Leans rhythmic but not with the thug crap that JAMN features (which is worse, IMO than many hard urbans like Hot 97 NY or 92.3 in Chicago). CBS has tons of experience with such formats too. Tons.

A midstream urban, not unlike WBLK in Buffalo, WDKX Rochester, WKKV Milwaukee or the new WAMO Pittsburgh. Again, if pigs could fly and that crazy Mindich would sell WFNX, someone could quadruple the ratings on that mess overnight with such a format. But a larger signal could pull it off too.

There is room in the market for either format - if not both. To reiterate, Boston does have a musical heritage that includes plenty of R&B. Old playlists from stations that predated consolidation will prove that. And Boston is MORE DIVERSE now. If anyone is parochial, it is the large corporations (based elsewhere) such as CBS, Entercom, Greater Media, etc. who make assumptions about Boston that are based on stereotype.

And, to answer CTListener (sorry for misidentifying you), Power 104.1 was not meant to be a place holder. But corporate-think killed that station. It had very encouraging ratings that were better than WMRQ right out of the gate. Then came that Philly based morning show and that DREADFUL Wendy Williams. Corporate deals that all CC urban contemporary stations were hit with. Next thing you know, 104.1 is only on music a few hours a day + overnights and people tuned out in droves. That's what went down. The format, if well implemented, is sound.

As for WYBC, it's a flea powered A that's always been run on a shoestring budget. Yet it has been known to hit #1 in the New Haven market ratings from time to time and it often has more listeners than the far more powerful WKCI. It's hard to get in Hartford, yet it always gets some ratings there. In fact, it even has issues getting to Bridgeport because of the co-channel signal on Long Island.

It's revenues are what they are because it's never been a focal point for Cox. But it also proves that the demand is there.
 
great post, but demand for the format isn't the issue. It's whether it can be profitable. One could argue the revenues are what they are because it's less attractive to advertisers.

BRNout said:
It's revenues are what they are because it's never been a focal point for Cox. But it also proves that the demand is there.
 
If WYBC is topping the New Haven ratings but billing significantly less than other stations, there really is only one explanation: The advertisers, rightly or wrongly, don't think the target audience has enough disposable income to make advertising on the station worthwhile. Birmingham and Memphis were brought up as cities with large black populations -- I believe both are majority black, actually -- AND a significant black middle and upper class. I'm not sure such an economic entity has formed in New Haven or Hartford. And in Boston, where the black community is tiny compared to Southern cities, or even Philadelphia and Baltimore, you've got hardly anything to sell to advertisers unless you've got a format with strong city and suburban appeal, and Urban AC isn't one of them.

NHRadio said:
great post, but demand for the format isn't the issue. It's whether it can be profitable. One could argue the revenues are what they are because it's less attractive to advertisers.

BRNout said:
It's revenues are what they are because it's never been a focal point for Cox. But it also proves that the demand is there.
 
to get off the subject a tiny bit.
On Saturday nights, "ESPN Radio" "Sports Saturday" Saturdays 8pm-Midnight Eastern Time. They have a ?? three minute feature "Wheel Of Sound" The best soundbites of the week. They have this feature twice, around 8:45pm, and around 10:45pm. During this feature, the backround music is a Chinese Hip Hop music that was also recently in the latest "Karate Kid" movie with Jackie Chan. The part of that movie is when (Dre) finds out (Mr Chan) is about to teach him Kung Fu. When he's on his way to (Mr Chan's), that is when they are playing that Chinese Hip Hop music.
It's a cool beat. ;D
This ESPN Radio feature is great. At the current moment, The normal host for "Sports Saturday" is Mike Salt. Take a listen when you have a free moment.
 
Laurence Glavin said:
DToTheJ said:
For the record, the song is actually "If It Isn't Love"...

Hey, hey, hey...no correcting people's mistakes on this board!

All good... We're human... So, how about that 80's show moving to WROR? :-X ::)
 
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