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Will KTU be Movin' 103.5?

Jeffrey:

Wouldn't it be interesting (although very remote) if WKTU swapped frequencies with WFNY who's at 92.3 FM.

I do believe when KTU was resurrected in 1996, they could've moved down to 92.3 then.
Thanks,
Kevin L. Sealy
 
Why would they do that? Because a station with the call letters WKTU happened to be on that frequency in the 70s? Do you think most people remember, or care, or that more people would tune in just because of that reason? I always think such things are pretty silly.
 
Kevin L. Sealy said:
Jeffrey:

Wouldn't it be interesting (although very remote) if WKTU swapped frequencies with WFNY who's at 92.3 FM.

I do believe when KTU was resurrected in 1996, they could've moved down to 92.3 then.
Thanks,
Kevin L. Sealy
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That won't happen but I would love it if the original 92KTU was resurrected. That was when New York radio was programmed for New York and not by CC in San Antonio, Texas!
 
KJCB said:
Yeah, well, CBS programs from NY and I don't see them getting much of a pass here...
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That's not the point. CC/CBS program their latest format of the day for all cities without paying attention to the special niches that would fill the genre requirments of particular cities. It doesn't matter where their based...and that, my friend was the point.
 
How is this even a serious discussion? WHY would KTU flip to "Movin" when:

A. Jammin Oldies failed already and MOvin is really a slightly modified version of Jammin oldies

B. WNEW is essentially doing something close enough to what Movin is described as being.

So what do they do? battle it out for control of a 1 share which they would probably split between them?. It makes so little sense.
 
The name may not have changed to "Movin," but the flip has been made. And yes, right now they sound pretty much like Mix 102.7.
 
So what do they do? battle it out for control of a 1 share which they would probably split between them?. It makes so little sense.
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And that right there is the exact reason why in 2008, we will have NO rhythmic outlets in NYC. Of course they'll blame it on their preconceived notion that dance music doesn't work when in fact you have two poorly executed stations remaining in the past and not doing anything regarding dance music today. All for that 1 share.

That's what makes this whole damn thing effin crazy!
 
As one who loves dance music, but listens all day to KTU at work and then during commutes at night and have you... I don't hear much difference in this huge tweak you're all talking about...

The Movin format is nothing more than what KTU has been for a long time a mix of classics and a dabble of a couple newer songs. I guess because I'm actually a daily listener and I actually like the no repeat days for the variety and not hearing the same songs over and over while in the office. That I don't hear anything new, because the depth has been there consistantly... Nights are still fun and upbeat, Liquid Todd was still on late Friday-early Saturday as I was waiting for friends to meet up to go out, and as I don't really listen to the countdown or evening hours as I'm in the studio myself then, I haven't heard the difference I guess... *shrug* I hear from friends that Rob (Miller, the new PD) has been a fan of KTU since its inception in '96, he calls it a legendary dream job). I think ktu is how clear channel wants it, a magnet for the money-power demo of 25-54.
 
Jeffrey said:
With a new PD from WALK, Long Island now and CC flipping stations all over the country, will WKTU be Movin'?
This commercial was posted on the LA board and sounds exactly like KTU now after the tweaks and cut from dance music. All they need now is the monkier and it's really ALL OVER.
RIP KTU. :-[

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k-RXQIeETM&mode=related&search=
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Only if out of touch, out of town consultants have their way. Regardless of the playlist, the KTU moniker is worth much more than a silly trend of the month label like "Movin". To anyone who knows anything, KTU was synonomous with dance, both in the 80s and in its reincarnation in the 90s.
 
Jeffrey said:
KJCB said:
Yeah, well, CBS programs from NY and I don't see them getting much of a pass here...
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That's not the point. CC/CBS program their latest format of the day for all cities without paying attention to the special niches that would fill the genre requirments of particular cities. It doesn't matter where their based...and that, my friend was the point.
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I think your point was pretty clear Jeffrey. The problem is when out of town consultants try to impose their will on markets they know nothing about.
 
MikeStandardsFromIndiana said:
Clear channel doesnt usally name there Rythmic AC stations Movin. They are usually named the Party other than in Philly.
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Good point. I'm sure they'll keep the KTU calls and name in the end. It's the format that counts.
I guess the format is movin' w/ out the monkier.
 
Justin Case said:
As one who loves dance music, but listens all day to KTU at work and then during commutes at night and have you... I don't hear much difference in this huge tweak you're all talking about...

The Movin format is nothing more than what KTU has been for a long time a mix of classics and a dabble of a couple newer songs. I guess because I'm actually a daily listener and I actually like the no repeat days for the variety and not hearing the same songs over and over while in the office. That I don't hear anything new, because the depth has been there consistantly... Nights are still fun and upbeat, Liquid Todd was still on late Friday-early Saturday as I was waiting for friends to meet up to go out, and as I don't really listen to the countdown or evening hours as I'm in the studio myself then, I haven't heard the difference I guess... *shrug* I hear from friends that Rob (Miller, the new PD) has been a fan of KTU since its inception in '96, he calls it a legendary dream job). I think ktu is how clear channel wants it, a magnet for the money-power demo of 25-54.
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I don't know how you can say that. Look at their current play list compared with last month.
KTU now plays alot more pop/CHR tunes in addition to the gold they've been playing the last few years.
They play NO current dance anymore, they've gotten rid of the top 8 at 8, etc...
The current format is Rhythmic ac not dance.
Agreed, KTU is now as CC wants it. The Movin' without the name!
 
Ciao said:
Jeffrey said:
KJCB said:
Yeah, well, CBS programs from NY and I don't see them getting much of a pass here...
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That's not the point. CC/CBS program their latest format of the day for all cities without paying attention to the special niches that would fill the genre requirments of particular cities. It doesn't matter where their based...and that, my friend was the point.
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I think your point was pretty clear Jeffrey. The problem is when out of town consultants try to impose their will on markets they know nothing about.
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Absolutely. Additionally they don't really care about the listener. It's more cost effective and easier to program a generic format of the day than have all the stations they own all over the country with particular niches. That would be much more costly for them. In the end it's a business and they have to make money. I understand that, it's just unfortunate that the listener suffers in that there is no diversity and creativity in stations anymore.

There are really only a handful of good radio stations in the US. nowadays and most are non commercial!
 
TowerBuzz said:
So what do they do? battle it out for control of a 1 share which they would probably split between them?. It makes so little sense.
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(Emphasis my own.)

And that is a result of the fact that we're discussing a Clear Channel station. CC often doesn't make sense. Nothing new there.

Any more questions? ;D
 
Tony Santiago said:
So what do they do? battle it out for control of a 1 share which they would probably split between them?. It makes so little sense.
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And that right there is the exact reason why in 2008, we will have NO rhythmic outlets in NYC. Of course they'll blame it on their preconceived notion that dance music doesn't work when in fact you have two poorly executed stations remaining in the past and not doing anything regarding dance music today. All for that 1 share.

That's what makes this whole damn thing effin crazy!
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No Tony I think we're actually on the same page more than you know. I did not say that DANCE wouldnt work in NYC becuase of any precoceived notion, what I was referring to SPECIFICALLY was the idea of KTU segueing to "Movin" , in THIS SCENARIO the two stations would be battling it out for control of a 1 share, a 1 share that two essntially "classic dance" sattions would be able to produce, I AM NOT AN ANTI DANCE GUY. I think if done well/corrrectly it can be a viable format especailly in NYC. Remember back ten years ago when KTU signed on and was producing high 3's and almost 4 shares 12+, that went on for a good long while. It can be done. My point was for KTu to flip to movin when there is already a station in the market doing something close enough to what Movin is already is just dumb, I dont care what anyone who claims to have inside info says, it has not happened, they were still Id'ing themselves as "the beat of NY" this morning, changing formats to a format already owned by WNEW is illogical, period.
 
TowerBuzz said:
Tony Santiago said:
So what do they do? battle it out for control of a 1 share which they would probably split between them?. It makes so little sense.
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And that right there is the exact reason why in 2008, we will have NO rhythmic outlets in NYC. Of course they'll blame it on their preconceived notion that dance music doesn't work when in fact you have two poorly executed stations remaining in the past and not doing anything regarding dance music today. All for that 1 share.

That's what makes this whole damn thing effin crazy!
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No Tony I think we're actually on the same page more than you know. I did not say that DANCE wouldnt work in NYC becuase of any precoceived notion, what I was referring to SPECIFICALLY was the idea of KTU segueing to "Movin" , in THIS SCENARIO the two stations would be battling it out for control of a 1 share, a 1 share that two essntially "classic dance" sattions would be able to produce, I AM NOT AN ANTI DANCE GUY. I think if done well/corrrectly it can be a viable format especailly in NYC. Remember back ten years ago when KTU signed on and was producing high 3's and almost 4 shares 12+, that went on for a good long while. It can be done. My point was for KTu to flip to movin when there is already a station in the market doing something close enough to what Movin is already is just dumb, I dont care what anyone who claims to have inside info says, it has not happened, they were still Id'ing themselves as "the beat of NY" this morning, changing formats to a format already owned by WNEW is illogical, period.
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....but they already have changed to the movin' format and moreso than MIX. They are no longer considered a dance station.
Look at their playlist. The only thing they are missing is the moniker, Movin'.
 
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