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WIZE - Anything new?

A few months back, a couple of posters here made a big deal over WIZE flipping to country, following the demise of WKSW.


So, is there anything new to report? Are CC's Dayton AE's making multiple trips to Springfield to market WIZE? How about remotes? Local news and weather? Anything?

:::crickets:::

That's what I thought. ::)
 
It's sad to see what's become of the once-huge WIZE. At least it's no longer a repeater of WONE, but NO ONE is going to switch from FM to AM for Country. They're going to stay on FM and flip to K-99.1 FM. End of story. Or flip on the MP3/iPod.
 
A question to Alan613.. Don't you think the AM dial is suited to a Classic Country format?
Plus, what other formats do you think can still work on the AM Band?
 
You already have a regional "network" of classic country outlets from WBZI in Xenia, don't you? As a former Springfield resident (OK, Mad River Twp) AM 1500 came in pretty good north of the Greene County line, albeit only during the daytime. I"m no longer there, and I suspect their new FM translator in Xenia doesn't carry quite far enough to be heard in Clark Co. As nice as it would be to have two stations in the region competing with variants of the classic country format, maybe WIZE needs to join the WBZI daisychain, whether or not they get bought out, like the other stations in Wilmington and Eaton.
That, with local sports at night, and some weekends, might bring in some of the parents and grandparents of the kids playing football. But it won't attract the cheerleaders, that's for sure. At least, none of them under the age of 50!
 
WBZI's 100.3 FM translator comes in nice and clear here in Clark County. It's in mono, and I'm guessing they're in mono to avoid the flickering of the stereo pilot, much like WHIO-FM.
As far as what format(s) work best on AM radio...Talk and/or Sports Talk. The sad fact though is that the AM band is dying more and more every single day, with Talk and Sports Talk stations moving to FM to simulcast(See WHIO-FM in Dayton and WBNS-FM in Columbus). I can't even remember the last time I listened to an AM station. Sad but true.
 
I understand they had some problems with the transmitter a few months back but "fixed" it.

They're doing high school football this season with the WKSW rejects. They're doing a live remote coaches show with the county schools this Saturday at Frickers in Springfield.

That's the extent of their local programming.

And I wonder how they'll do at it. Wittenberg's student station is still doing HS football on FM and has a little bit of recognition after a couple seasons of doing it. Their signals both have similiar distance at nighttime, so WIZE doesn't have much of an advantage there.
 
SFIND said:
I understand they had some problems with the transmitter a few months back but "fixed" it.

They're doing high school football this season with the WKSW rejects. They're doing a live remote coaches show with the county schools this Saturday at Frickers in Springfield.

That's the extent of their local programming.

And I wonder how they'll do at it. Wittenberg's student station is still doing HS football on FM and has a little bit of recognition after a couple seasons of doing it. Their signals both have similiar distance at nighttime, so WIZE doesn't have much of an advantage there.
For the record, Wittenberg's student station is WUSO 89.1.
LOL @ the "WKSW rejects" line.
 
I have listened to Kiss Country's football broadcasts and all I can say is "Terrible", the main guy, Lee I believe just talked and talked and never let his side kick get a word in at all. At least now on WIZE nobody will have to listen to him ramble on and on and on....LOL
 
yeah...it's HD all right (if that's what you want to call a digital AM transmitter y'all)

and IS in stereo.... if you're listening to it online.

BTW...no WIZE liners or IDs are used online as the stream calls itself "Foggy Mountain on i-Heart Radio."

Other than that,Lee Riley and his freinds might bring some sort of local life back into WIZE although it's not eminating from the Miracle Mile Mountain.

I have an AM stereo car radio and have YET to hear 1340 in stereo.
 
OK, I AM GOING TO GIVE MY 2CENTS HERE. ALANS613, I am glad you are amused by the "wksw rejects line." I wonder, were you one of the groupies that would call and call and call and appear at remotes?? I do not come to your place of employment and wonder and hope to someday push shopping carts and critique those whom do it -as idiots. Opinions are just that and of course you are entitled to yours, but why belittle another man?? If you are not in liking of the content provided tune out and pipe down there big guy.


AND SFIND, I do not know you personally, but you can tell a human's ( sorry if I give too much credit) intelligence when they open their mouth. I want to say you should be thankful day in and day out for the privilege of free speech. But try to restrain it when calling the professionals at former WKSW "rejects". I believe the decisions that were made there (regarding the stations demise) were made by others out of their control. But of course your professionalism and talent would have prevented management from doing as they did.

Guys, please feel free anytime to let us know of your radio career and how your success, professionalism and "talent" prevented a corporation from not flipping or moving a radio station...... how about you put your money where your opinion is? Stand up and do something on line or buy a place, and show us how good you are??? - yawn yea right!!

As sterolane says...................... "CRICKETS"
Oh and gentleman, thank you and have a nice day!
You affectionate little buddy, Gilligan, Zack Burns, Steve Michaels, Steve Gilliland [email protected]
 
zburns said:
OK, I AM GOING TO GIVE MY 2CENTS HERE. ALANS613, I am glad you are amused by the "wksw rejects line." I wonder, were you one of the groupies that would call and call and call and appear at remotes?? I do not come to your place of employment and wonder and hope to someday push shopping carts and critique those whom do it -as idiots. Opinions are just that and of course you are entitled to yours, but why belittle another man?? If you are not in liking of the content provided tune out and pipe down there big guy.


AND SFIND, I do not know you personally, but you can tell a human's ( sorry if I give too much credit) intelligence when they open their mouth. I want to say you should be thankful day in and day out for the privilege of free speech. But try to restrain it when calling the professionals at former WKSW "rejects". I believe the decisions that were made there (regarding the stations demise) were made by others out of their control. But of course your professionalism and talent would have prevented management from doing as they did.

Guys, please feel free anytime to let us know of your radio career and how your success, professionalism and "talent" prevented a corporation from not flipping or moving a radio station...... how about you put your money where your opinion is? Stand up and do something on line or buy a place, and show us how good you are??? - yawn yea right!!

As sterolane says...................... "CRICKETS"
Oh and gentleman, thank you and have a nice day!
You affectionate little buddy, Gilligan, Zack Burns, Steve Michaels, Steve Gilliland [email protected]
I never showed up at a Kiss Country remote...EVER! I never listened to the station either unless it was in a Dr's office and I had no choice, and I only listened on the last day b/c I was waiting for Main Line to blow up the station, which everyone on here at least knew was coming. I just thought the "WKSW Rejects" line was hilarious...and I still do. I wasn't belittling anybody, I just found the line humorous. KC was painful to listen to. It's demise was one of my favorite radio moments over my 26+ years of listening to the radio ;D. I don't like to see anyone lose their jobs, but Lee was the only one cut loose. He'll find something else most likely. Andy is still an Account Exec. at Main Line, so he still has a gig. Now go back to your corners and come out fighting. ::)
 
Though I've listened to the former WKSW only a few times, I do remember Lee Riley. He is a professional.

I was appalled by the "rejects" label.

My best goes out to Lee and hopes he will be gainfully full time employed soon.
 
I said before it was a strange move by Main Line dumping Kiss Country. I have been told how popular they were in Clark and Champaign counties. You don't achieve the success they had with
'"rejects" as broadcasters.

Kiss Country serviced their community and deivered what their audience wanted. They did it for a number of years the right way.

I have been told by several who know the market that K99 has done some great things but they are a better radio station today I believe because they had competition from Kiss Country.

I only make these comments because I find it wrong to label local talent like that in any market.
 
Sheesh, folks on here sure take things WAY too seriously. I meant no harm by laughing at the "WKSW rejects" line. I just found it humorous, much like I would if I saw the line "OSU rejects" somewhere. Jim Tressel was a good coach, but he is now a REJECT.
ML dumped KC b/c it wasn't doing very good ratings IMO...as well as it would've been stupid for ML to try to pit KC up against the monster that is K-99.1 FM. They were lucky to do low 1s in that last book. They're now in the low 2s as of the last 'Trend, plus it seems as though ML has an obsession with trying to sink Mix 107.7 by throwing in another "Thorn in the side" of that station. Also notice that WXEG's ratings have dropped quite a bit since CLiCK signed on. CLiCK is clicking upward, even if the signal is just a rimshot.
Lee will find something else. He's been in the market for years and years.
 
Regardless of your thoughts on the "air-talent" calling the games, be glad the games are "on the air". Remember, coverage of High School sports on radio is as much about serving the community as it is about making a buck ((something lost on previous ownership of the two AM's in Springfield)) I know Lee, he is a solid broadcaster and does a good job, high school games can be a challenge to call. Whatever effort he and others of the former WKSW made to get (and keep) the games on air should be commended.
 
alans613 said:
Sheesh, folks on here sure take things WAY too seriously. I meant no harm by laughing at the "WKSW rejects" line. I just found it humorous, much like I would if I saw the line "OSU rejects" somewhere. Jim Tressel was a good coach, but he is now a REJECT.
ML dumped KC b/c it wasn't doing very good ratings IMO...as well as it would've been stupid for ML to try to pit KC up against the monster that is K-99.1 FM. They were lucky to do low 1s in that last book. They're now in the low 2s as of the last 'Trend, plus it seems as though ML has an obsession with trying to sink Mix 107.7 by throwing in another "Thorn in the side" of that station. Also notice that WXEG's ratings have dropped quite a bit since CLiCK signed on. CLiCK is clicking upward, even if the signal is just a rimshot.
Lee will find something else. He's been in the market for years and years.

Alan, whereas I am not and will not be "mad" at you, rather use your points to prove you have NO point except sell fulfillment of hearing ones voice so to speak in print. I would like to thank you for opening the lid on your subject with the opinions of others whom disagree with the points about "rejects" and the humor in it. I would not go in a corner to "fight" with you, maybe take the wheels off the carts you push at Meijer and laugh and post on line of the "horrible" job you were doing, knowing all along the hardships you needed to over come, yet never mention that. As you did by talking trash about former co-workers and friends at the old Kiss Country. If you do not like country, that is fine, great. They did fine w/o your listener ship for years. Unless of course, you want to claim that is the reason they are no longer on the air.
Once Mainline decided they no longer were going to keep KC, they no longer INVESTED in the product. Why would they? It is their business decision. That takes nothing away from the people whom worked there. When the resources are removed preventing them from doing the job they were capable of, they did a great job with what they had to work with. THAT alone makes me glad to have worked with those guys.
Nick is where he is b/c of what he did at Kiss Country that caught the attention of others. Many in Dayton, where they had virtually no signal, knew of the job being done at that small station and took notice. But Dayton is where Mainline (actually radio one) wanted to be, and so they knew with the resources and power of the company that owns WHKO, that it would be futile to go against them, so they flipped formats. I probably would have done the same, or something similar.
About the ratings at WKSW, a couple things were working against them, one Clark county is no longer the second biggest county in the demo. Greene is, that leaves less books for Clark county to sample. And since WKSW had great signal in both Clark and Champaign counties, it degrades rapidly outside those counties. And with the removal of resources by corporate, it affected ratings even more. If investment is not made in the product, it shows. COX media invests in their product, and like them or not it shows in the ratings doesn't it? And since advertising revenue is tied to ratings, it all comes full circle. Where as KC still did good on revenue, it would fall eventually too reflecting the lack luster Clark county economy. So it all makes sense when you tie it all together. Now how is this information the fault of on air talent?
A lot of times we let emotion dictate reality and common sense. But at the end of the day, WKSW was doomed once the decision was made to move to Dayton, all knew but did not want to admit it. It was not the fault of staff. Once Lee and Andy was the only two left on the air, like at my tenure at WDOL, I realized what was to come.
Alan, think about this. Why seriously don't you try your hand on line at a station? It is cheap and you can put your theories into practice.
It is a fun hobby and then you can see if your theories are practical, even in a micro sense.
Affectionately your little buddy,
Gilligan
 
Kudos Marty. I remember you from WIZE.
Kudos Kirkie Fan and Pioneer71.
I am sure the guys from 'ksw appreciate it. If I was to call games, I would sound like a stuttering chipmunk , drunk auctioneer or some hideous combination of the two. As such, I agree with your assessment Marty.
BTW, we need an affiliate of OSU here locally I can pick up better here in Springfield. Suggestions??
 
Burns-

No matter how good of broadcasters they are, they are rejects, period. They got cut with their station. I meant nothing more than that. I myself am a reject of previous places of employment. I have no doubt you are too. Why do you feel you have to defend them? As far as I can tell, they have employment with a radio station... where's the need for defense?

As far as my intelligence level... I'm sorry I can't live up to your levels of an Associate's Degree from the International College of Broadcasting (or am I giving you too much credit?).
 
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