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WJJZ's Days Numbered?

They should do what GM wanted orginally and go Oldies, the stuff you dont hear on OGL, I think there is enough of the oldies pie to make another oldies station on FM profitable, the format should be just like WMID....
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They could do that if they wanted to. But here's the catch. Don't fall into the big lie that oldies isn't profitable. Done correctly it can definitely be a money maker. There are still plenty of moms and pops around the country living comfortably with their family owned radio stations.

With the surplus of debt consolidation / debt counseling / bankruptcy ads targeted at the masses, there are plenty of spots that need air time.

The problem is that the format isn't profitable enough for the greedy corporations who own radio stations today. What's funny though is those same big corporations who decided that oldies isn't a profitable format are now losing their shirts thanks to the cookie cutter radio stations they've created.

It's a disgrace.
 
Bottom line, why does XM's Watercolors and Beyond Jazz sound so good to me and Smooth Jazz on FM gets turned off after 8 or 10 minutes?


WJJZ sounded like watercolors the night they started i remember tozzi playing stuff the old WJJZ would never touch
and later that night michael was on the radio racket talking about the launch of WJJZ i know it allways has to come back to the racket
 
they will be real oldies by memorial day.....

One can only hope. But knowing GM they'd screw that up too. Real Oldies is actually making a second comeback in many cities! And why not? There's really nothing else left.
 
Think about what WOCL/Orlando did leading up to its launch of "Orlando's Greatest Hits": they aired "The History of Rock & Roll" non-stop for about one week. That would make for some good "cleansing/stopgap" programming as a precursor of any oldies format launch.
 
whenever the topic is WJJZ, i usually start my sentence with "i don't really like smooth jazz music, but ..." then today i realized why i don't like smooth jazz music. it's not the music. it's fm radio's crappy presentation of it. i was at a place today that was playing xm's watercolors and if that kind of presentation were on WJJZ, i would listen non stop. fm smooth jazz radio has essentially destroyed itself. 10 years ago, smooth jazz was the format to be. then around 2000, it started to slip a bit. instead of responding, however, by adding more experimental acid jazz type instrumentals, the fine "consultants" said "oh we need to play soft pop to bring in the people." ratings dropped. more soft pop added. ratings dropped more. soft pop added. and the cycle went on to the sad state of smooth jazz radio today. we can thank the consultants for not responding correctly to the first ratings slips of smooth jazz back in the early 2000s. if they had responded correctly, we may still have a viable format today. but instead, smooth jazz on fm is dead. i do feel however, that no matter what the ppm says, there is room for some sort of ambient format on fm. beautiful music died. smooth jazz took over. smooth jazz is dying. what is next? chill didn't work in new york. perhaps some format like Muzak's "NuJazz" that you can hear if you have dish network. mixture of acid jazz, fusion jazz, chill, laid back dance music like you hear in a fashion store, etc.
 
Interstate 78 said:
whenever the topic is WJJZ, i usually start my sentence with "i don't really like smooth jazz music, but ..." then today i realized why i don't like smooth jazz music. beautiful music died. smooth jazz took over. smooth jazz is dying. what is next? chill didn't work in new york. perhaps some format like Muzak's "NuJazz" that you can hear if you have dish network. mixture of acid jazz, fusion jazz, chill, laid back dance music like you hear in a fashion store, etc.
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A) The former CD-101.9/NYC tried this under the name "Chill" and it bombed.
B) It is a form of dance music, and Philly HATES "danse myoozik".
 
Message to the higherups at GM......You tried smooth jazz and it didn't work, just flip the format and save us all the grief of speculation. First of all....musicians are not radio personalities, THEY ARE MUSICIANS. By taking them out of their element and trying to make radio hosts of them is not only bastardizing the format and making smooth jazz the joke that it is now, it hurts their record sales in the long run, and waters down their exclusivity as an artist. They don't get airplay when they come out with new product, then you want them to come on the air to further let the listeners know that you don't have any respect for the intelligence of the artist or the audience.
I thought you were on the right track when you brought back Teri Webb and got Al Winters from Miami, and Bill Simpson, it sounded like wjjz was on the way back to respectability. Ramsey Lewis is so out of touch with smooth jazz, you should be embarassed to have someone on the air that's not even in the 35-64 demo. who could possibily take this seriously.....Advertisers??? Media Buyers??? god forbid the listeners??? By my calculations......3 strikes.....YOU'RE OUT!!!

But when you go on the cheap, drink the BA kool-aid, blow out quality talent when the numbers don't reflect the promises you guaranteed to the GM higher ups because of your tunnel vision and lack of imagination. A format flip would at least salvage the company's reputation.

When a head coach has a season that didn't turn out as expected, does he blame his players?.....no, he takes the blame for it. But you'd have to have a pair to stand up admit it.

Another oldies station would sound great around easter, if not sooner
 
I pay now to hear that on sirus now.if I could get it for free.and save me money.sign me up!!!bring it on NOW!!!!.wipe WOGL off the map baby!!!!!!50's and 60's with some 70's now thats a #1 radio station..with no info crap like wpen did 2 years ago.no singal and info stuff is what killed oldies 950.but oldies on 97.5 would work out just fine..that would bring 50's music back on wogl as well when they see 97.5 at #1!!!!!
 
did michael klien say on the racket that WJJZ had a 1.4 in the money demo ?

if so thats really bad i could see 97.5 flipping before the spring book starts and speaking of WJJZ march 15th 1993 is when the original signed on
 
Maybe what would sell better would be a variation of the cool jazz format, an all instrumental version of WJJZ, sort of "the weather channel music" on radio. Great for background music (for office, elevators, department stores, candlelight dinners, etc). Sometimes the vocals interrupt the mood that the instrumental music provides.
 
Straight Contemporary Jazz, like WJJZ was when it first came on in 1993 is how I believe it should go. Kill the Motown oldies and just they the Contemporary Jazz artists and more of a variety of them.
 
Damage control time from the Kepler and Carol Archer. Both need the Smooth Jazz format to survive for their jobs. See the latest Archer article in R&R Online. She allows a very lengthy quote from Kep, saying the sky is not falling and that decisions to drop the format are not based on anything they're doing wrong, etc. Typical damage control talk. What's interesting is that he seems to have a handle on WJJZ, saying that Greater Media is extremely deidcated to the format. He seems to indicate that WJJZ will be around for awhile. So that obviously means BA has made a successful life-saving pitch to help save their behinds, or he is talking out of panic. This probably means one thing, WJJZ is going to go all BA, since BA has all the answers. So instead of a format flip, we're going to get all the BA hosts on in Philly. Very simple solution. Save WJJZ money so they can afford any bad ratings. Beautiful! Body count time for WJJZ in any case.
 
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