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WKDN Changing From Non-Comm Back to Commercial?

If they're truly "selling," as in getting out of the Philly market, how about Merlin Media that just bought stations in NYC and Chicago? News coverage of the new Randy Michaels radio company has said he doesn't intend to stop in those two markets.

If they would consider a swap, could it be CBS looking for one more FM for one of its talk formats instead of an AM signal? CBS is limited to the number of radio stations it already has in the Philadelphia market, but it could swap an AM for an FM.

It can't be Clear Channel, they're maxed out.

Probably not Radio One either, as they're not in the best financial shape these days.

Greater Media? Beasley? B101 getting a sister station?
 
Family Radio has plenty of money from all the fools who donated their life savings who are now screwed because the world didn't end.
 
It is doubtful that Family Radio would be exiting a market as large as Philly.

But they have done station swaps before that have ended up with them making a lot of money and not losing any potential listeners.

Are there any non-commercial frequencies in the Philly market that Family Radio could switch to or buy?

The idea would be to sell the commercial frequency for big bucks, and buy an equal signal on a non-commercial frequency for less and pocket the difference.

No doubt, Merlin Media is interested in buying an FM in Philly, and it has the big bucks behind it to do that. Could this be the initiator ?
 
TimeIsTight said:
...Family Radio... have done station swaps before that have ended up with them making a lot of money and not losing any potential listeners...

Let's not forget about the deal they made with CBS in San Francisco which involved the 610 AM and 106.9 FM frequencies...
 
There may be another player in the mix, Redeemer Radio Network from upper New York State. They now have, I believe it's three stations in NY state and according to their website hope to get a station in the NYC/North Jersey area soon. Who knows, if that doesn't pan out they could go for WKDN.

Their history is interesting as they were a Family Radio affiliate and left Campings clan a number of years ago, they've got a complete history posted on their web site for those who want details. Redeemer Radio essentially offer the same type of music and features, with preaching programs that tend to be Presbyterian in theology rather than Campings fundamentalist stuff.

The have an online listen now feature for listening to their station for those who want that type of Christian music/teaching.

http://www.redeemerbroadcasting.org/index.html
 
Just informed Redeemer about this station being for sale.

Here's their response to it.

Hey R.D.P.

Yes that is correct.   Family Radio is selling WKDN, but will not sell it to another “religious broadcaster.”  

Thanks for the heads up!
Dan Elmendorf (Owner and President of Redeemer Broadcasting)

P.S. Whoever gets this station, I hope they'll have success with it. 
 
To show you how twisted Family Radio is, check out this new response I just got from Redeemer Radio:

Yes – they are specifically selling to a secular broadcaster.    The board in Oakland feels no moral necessity of keeping the signal Christian, even though it was Christians who funded it and supported it all these years.   It is outrageous.

R.D.P <><
 
Family Radio is selling WKDN, but will not sell it to another “religious broadcaster.”

So, now the two big questions are:

Which secular broadcaster is buying the station?

What, probably, licensed non-com station is Family Radio going to put its programming on now?

Family Radio would not exit out of a major market, especially since the station is debt free and the parent organization has no financial problems.

Keeping other Christian broadcasters from getting it just limits competition. It must be getting really big bucks to do this, and it is doubtful other non-profit organizations would, or even could, pay the kind of money the for profit guys can for a desirable signal. Family Radio bought all its big stations in the days when FM was no big deal and the stations were dirt cheap by today's standards.
 
radiophiler said:
Greater Media? Beasley? B101 getting a sister station?

Maybe a swap to Greater Media for 950 and $$$$$?

Does Beasley own the WTMR/WKDN tower site? Maybe they're foreclosing for back tower rent. :D

Or is the "Channel 300" in the application a clue? Could Radio One afford to upgrade WRNB?

Are there any translators in the noncommercial band that relay WKDN? Wouldn't they have to switch to another noncom?
 
Rick B. said:
radiophiler said:
Greater Media? Beasley? B101 getting a sister station?

Maybe a swap to Greater Media for 950 and $$$$$?

Does Beasley own the WTMR/WKDN tower site? Maybe they're foreclosing for back tower rent. :D

Or is the "Channel 300" in the application a clue? Could Radio One afford to upgrade WRNB?

Are there any translators in the noncommercial band that relay WKDN? Wouldn't they have to switch to another noncom?

I don't think WRNB can be upgraded from its current site.
It would be great if they did an AM/FM swap with CBS. Put KYW on 106.9 and Family Radio on 1060.

Maybe Family Radio needs money to advertise October 21 and this will pay for it.

106.9's first song should be Britney Spears - Till The World Ends :)
 
Nick said:
I don't think WRNB can be upgraded from its current site.

Don't think that's what he means. I think he means move the WRNB format/slogan/imaging to the existing 106.9 transmitter.
 
My money is on CBS trading 610 to Family in Philly just like they did in SF. WIP then moves to 106.9.

If not CBS, then Greater Media would be next most likely, with Family getting the 950 signal.

Beasley would be a distant 3rd, because I can't see Family wanting the 860 signal.
 
Rick B. said:
Are there any translators in the noncommercial band that relay WKDN? Wouldn't they have to switch to another noncom?

They could be fed with an HD2. Might be an interesting test of the rules actually- Commercial broadcasters are not allowed to financially support their own out-of-area translators, but I don't think there's a rule about out-of-area translator owners supporting commercial broadcasters. In this case, Family, the owner of the translators, would be paying CBS/Greater Media/whoever to carry their signal on HD2 and feed the translators that way.

I was thinking about whether they could be fed with an AM, but I think AM translators are limited to the AM's broadcast area.
 
Thanks R D P for the update, and am sorry to hear that Family Radio wouldn't sell 106.9 to Redeemer Radio. Maybe Family is simply selling 106.9 for money and not wanting a Philly/Trenton/Wilmington signal be it AM or FM. Maybe the Delaware Valley area hasn't financially been supportive enough of 106.9 so Family is cutting its loses.

However, I'd agree that 610 would be the better AM signal for covering most of the Delaware Valley over 950.

Isn't CBS maxed out on how many radio stations it can have in Philly? But then if they are simply switching stations maybe that doesn't count, or is there a limit specific for how many AMs vs FMs a company can have in that same market. Someone here knows the answers to these questions.

If it were an issue, then as CBS doesn't own a station in Wilmington, they could get 106.9 and move their tower to Delaware near the PA line or maybe lease the tower from WJBR or WDEL/WSTW both are just below the PA line. It would still serve pretty much the same audience as a Camden/Philly 106.9 does now. The signal would go a bit further south and a bit less north.
 
Don't be so quick to discount Beasley; Family does have a daytimer in the Hartford market-WCTF 1170 licensed to the suburb of Vernon, CT. If Beasley get the nod, where will the WWDB stuff go?
 
While you guys are speculating that a current Philly commercial station owner might be doing a purchase or trade with Family Radio, there is one other potential player you may want to add to that list.

A brand new, but very well funded, radio broadcasting company, Merlin Media, has in the last few days taken over an FM in NYC, and two FMs in Chicago.

Merlin is being run by a lot of major league radio talent with legends and reputations going back 40-years or more. Among them Randy Michaels, and programmer Walt Sabo, who was responsible for the NJ-101.5 concept in this area, and also has consulted for Sirius/XM and major stations all over. The former GM from WINS in NYC, is there, as well as the well respected former PD of WYNY in New York in the 80s, Pete Salant.

The big money behind Merlin is coming from a major Chicago investment organization that manages billions of dollars, and is in the business of starting promising new companies.

The most plausible rumor is that Merlin is starting a news/talk operation targeted at women in their 30s and 40s. In NYC and Chicago they have hired top all news anchors from CBS stations. So, it may be a mix of all news, and talk topics like health, fitness, entertainment news, and other lifestyle features.

Early on, Merlin said it had plans to build a major organization, and it has certainly set its sights on buying stations in major markets like Philly. It can spread the cost of producing the features and news among a lot of stations. Major all news stations are among the top billing radio stations, and advertisers are very interested in Soccer mom types who control a tremendous amount of consumer spending. So news/talk aimed at younger women could bring in big bucks.

It would make sense that Merlin would move on the Philly market right away, and not wait for a station to be for sale. It probably wants to get as many major market stations up and running with the new format as soon as it can.

While Family Radio does own its stations outright, and had been running virtually debt free, there are some very reliable indications that it has been spending tens of millions of dollar a year more than it has been taking in for the last several years.

It may be in the kind of situation a homeowner would be in if he owned his house outright, but needed to take a home equity loan to buy food. In this case, instead of taking a loan, Family would sell off a station to raise cash to pay the bills for all its other operations. It's kind sad, because it is like eating your seed corn. And it may be an indication that Family Radio's financial solidity has been squandered. Too much faith, and not enough reality.

Both the NY and Chicago have been buzzing about Merlin, and it seems Philly may be among the next markets to be buzzing about it in the not too distant future. It is a strong possibility that Merlin wants to cast a spell on Philly women too.
 
The only reason I'm discounting Merlin is that they don't have anything to trade. I don't think Family wants to exit Philly entirely. I think they want an AM.

I could only see Merlin coming in as part of a very specific 3-way deal- Merlin buys 950 from Greater Media then trades it (plus cash) to Family for 106.9.
 
MikefromDelaware said:
If it were an issue, then as CBS doesn't own a station in Wilmington, they could get 106.9 and move their tower to Delaware near the PA line or maybe lease the tower from WJBR or WDEL/WSTW both are just below the PA line. It would still serve pretty much the same audience as a Camden/Philly 106.9 does now. The signal would go a bit further south and a bit less north.

Tower is right by Walt Whitman Bridge in Camden. Pretty good location to get your signal to the 8 county Philly Metro area. Sorry, DE is not part of the 8 county metro area.
 
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