WKDN

[mewing80]

Does anyone know when KDN will flip formats there are two job openings I am intrested in? And also would they relocate to Philly or stay in Camden?

 

[RadioPhillyFan]

Merlin is expected to take over in Late-March.
Job openings? I'd contact them.

Relocation? Doubtful. Maybe using KYW's weakness on the Jersey side as an advantage. KDN goes all the way over to South York (at least a member here mentioned getting it)

I'd say they'd just increase signal power.

 

[Zackster]

WKDN has a construction permit to move to One Liberty Place with a power of 9000 watts, non-directional.
Since that's in Philadelphia, and 9000 watts is a lot less than the current 38000 watts, I'd say you're wrong.

 

[fybush]

That CP is for an auxiliary transmitter. The FCC's rules say that an aux can only be licensed if it doesn't extend beyond the licensed contours of the main transmitter, and so WKDN's One Liberty aux has to be limited in power so it doesn't go any further west than the Camden site goes.

I expect we'll see a more ambitious application once Merlin takes over.

 

[Zackster]

An AUX transmitter is a fast way to get what you want, the FCC grants them quickly.
Like you say, they'll upgrade that fast after they take over. I bet Merlin will NEVER
transmit from Camden, except maybe 1 minute a week, to keep it "Legal"
It's all about building penetration.

 

[KyleSmith1988]

An AUX transmitter is a fast way to get what you want, the FCC grants them quickly.
Like you say, they'll upgrade that fast after they take over. I bet Merlin will NEVER
transmit from Camden, except maybe 1 minute a week, to keep it "Legal"
It's all about building penetration.

The current WKDN Camden site is only 4 miles SE from Center City Philly,
that's twice as close as the Roxboro antenna farm for most Philly stations (8 miles NW),
so the Camden site already has great building penetration, likely better than most others.

Also an auxilary transmitter is just that, not supposed to be used in place of a main transmitter for an extended time,
and it's much lower in power and this'll affect the coverage for (millions) in the market.
It's a much better idea to stay where they are for now.

 

[observer2]

Re: WKDN license

Bigger news than the CP for the aux xtmr:

The FCC has granted the assignment of license application:

http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/app_det.pl?Application_id=1485602

This doesn't mean the license has transferred, more like authorization to close the sale.

 

[observer2]

As for the auxiliary transmitter, the 9000 watts might not be such an issue if the HAAT was much higher.

 

[Bill_W]

An AUX transmitter is a fast way to get what you want, the FCC grants them quickly.
Like you say, they'll upgrade that fast after they take over. I bet Merlin will NEVER
transmit from Camden, except maybe 1 minute a week, to keep it "Legal"
It's all about building penetration.

The current WKDN Camden site is only 4 miles SE from Center City Philly,
that's twice as close as the Roxboro antenna farm for most Philly stations (8 miles NW),
so the Camden site already has great building penetration, likely better than most others.

Also an auxilary transmitter is just that, not supposed to be used in place of a main transmitter for an extended time,
and it's much lower in power and this'll affect the coverage for (millions) in the market.
It's a much better idea to stay where they are for now.

Yes, even though it is across the river in Camden, that antenna is defininately closer to the tall bldgs in Center City than the ones in the antenna farm. So their aux antenna will be with WMMR? And WMMR's aux antenna is the old one high atop the PSFS bldg. Is it still a 29 thousand watt flamethrower?

 

[emeraldsounddjs]

An AUX transmitter is a fast way to get what you want, the FCC grants them quickly.
Like you say, they'll upgrade that fast after they take over. I bet Merlin will NEVER
transmit from Camden, except maybe 1 minute a week, to keep it "Legal"
It's all about building penetration.

The current WKDN Camden site is only 4 miles SE from Center City Philly,
that's twice as close as the Roxboro antenna farm for most Philly stations (8 miles NW),
so the Camden site already has great building penetration, likely better than most others.

Also an auxilary transmitter is just that, not supposed to be used in place of a main transmitter for an extended time,
and it's much lower in power and this'll affect the coverage for (millions) in the market.
It's a much better idea to stay where they are for now.

Yes, even though it is across the river in Camden, that antenna is defininately closer to the tall bldgs in Center City than the ones in the antenna farm. So their aux antenna will be with WMMR? And WMMR's aux antenna is the old one high atop the PSFS bldg. Is it still a 29 thousand watt flamethrower?

Yes and no. KDN's aux antenna will be with WMMR, but it will be with MMR's main antenna not their aux. MMR's main antenna is located atop One Liberty Place.

 

[Bill_W]

An AUX transmitter is a fast way to get what you want, the FCC grants them quickly.
Like you say, they'll upgrade that fast after they take over. I bet Merlin will NEVER
transmit from Camden, except maybe 1 minute a week, to keep it "Legal"
It's all about building penetration.

The current WKDN Camden site is only 4 miles SE from Center City Philly,
that's twice as close as the Roxboro antenna farm for most Philly stations (8 miles NW),
so the Camden site already has great building penetration, likely better than most others.

Also an auxilary transmitter is just that, not supposed to be used in place of a main transmitter for an extended time,
and it's much lower in power and this'll affect the coverage for (millions) in the market.
It's a much better idea to stay where they are for now.

Yes, even though it is across the river in Camden, that antenna is defininately closer to the tall bldgs in Center City than the ones in the antenna farm. So their aux antenna will be with WMMR? And WMMR's aux antenna is the old one high atop the PSFS bldg. Is it still a 29 thousand watt flamethrower?

Yes and no. KDN's aux antenna will be with WMMR, but it will be with MMR's main antenna not their aux. MMR's main antenna is located atop One Liberty Place.

I know that WMMR moved their main transmitter to One Libery Place. 103.9 is up there too. Question is when 'MMR is using the aux, formerly their main, is it still 29Kw? like the promo used to say?

 

[tom]

WMMR Aux (PSFS) is now 25,000 watts, main is 16,500 watts (One Liberty)

WKDN's Main will be on One Liberty, they surely aren't spending a couple of
hundred thousand dollars building it, and $ 20,000 a month or so for rental
on One Liberty for an Aux site. Once Camden is deleted, One Liberty's
power can come up. The difference between 9000 watts and 16,500 watts
won't be noticeable anyway. FM stations can typically go to 1/2 power
without listeners hearing a difference.

I predict the Camden site will be gone in 6 months.

 

[RadioPhillyFan]

103.9 (WPPZ) is not on One Liberty Place, 107.9 (WPHI) is.

103.9 (WPPZ) is in Jenkinsville, amazing how far PPZ reaches however.

Also, is 106.9 going to be listenable in Montgomery, Gloucester and Chester Counties still? They're not gonna lose audience, right?

 

[fybush]

103.9 is licensed to Jenkintown. It transmits from Roxborough.

 

[nd2023]

103.9 (WPPZ) is not on One Liberty Place, 107.9 (WPHI) is.

103.9 (WPPZ) is in Jenkinsville, amazing how far PPZ reaches however.

Also, is 106.9 going to be listenable in Montgomery, Gloucester and Chester Counties still? They're not gonna lose audience, right?

106.9 doesn't have much of an audience. They didn't even get a ratings boost in the weeks leading up to May 21.

 

[Bill_W]

103.9 (WPPZ) is not on One Liberty Place, 107.9 (WPHI) is.

Sorry, meant 107.9, licenced to Pennsauken. 107.9 used to be WPPZ. It seems like R1 has played musical chairs on all 3 frequencies since they took Y-100 away.

 

[KyleSmith1988]

As of right now, the strongest recievable stations in Center City Philly are 93.3 & 107.9 (on 1LP) then 106.9
just a short distance away, then the Roxborough stations. I see no big need to move the transmitter just 4 miles away,
and with the huge cost, it won't make much of a difference, but it'd take some signal away from the Jersey shore.
Right now 106.9 is one of the strongest Philly stations audiable from the shore.

 

[RadioPhillyFan]

103.9 (WPPZ) is not on One Liberty Place, 107.9 (WPHI) is.

Sorry, meant 107.9, licenced to Pennsauken. 107.9 used to be WPPZ. It seems like R1 has played musical chairs on all 3 frequencies since they took Y-100 away.

 

[RadioPhillyFan]

103.9 (WPPZ) is not on One Liberty Place, 107.9 (WPHI) is.

Sorry, meant 107.9, licenced to Pennsauken. 107.9 used to be WPPZ. It seems like R1 has played musical chairs on all 3 frequencies since they took Y-100 away.

Y-100... Aka my favorite radio station of all time.

Sorry for blank quote, my browser messed up and I never caught it.

 

[nd2023]

103.9 (WPPZ) is not on One Liberty Place, 107.9 (WPHI) is.

Sorry, meant 107.9, licenced to Pennsauken. 107.9 used to be WPPZ. It seems like R1 has played musical chairs on all 3 frequencies since they took Y-100 away.

Y-100... Aka my favorite radio station of all time.

Sorry for blank quote, my browser messed up and I never caught it.

I still don't get why they flipped Y100 when it was billing more than what the other 2 Radio One stations billed combined. If it ain't broke don't fix it.