Yeah WTVF and WSMV get off on getting people fired. They have investigative reporters that LOVE to get people fired or make them resign. Thank God David Torrence resigned because WSMV would have not shut up about it until he did. Now let's see who they harrass until they finally quit. WKRN all the way for TV News in Nashville. Looking forward to them going HD soon.
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I'll be in Bowling Green in a couple of weeks myself. Maybe I can check them out!jwhite6069 said:
Yeah, they MADE Vic Lineweaver go to his mailbox in the middle of the day in his bathrobe, didn't they?jason99 said:
Yeah WTVF and WSMV get off on getting people fired. They have investigative reporters that LOVE to get people fired or make them resign.
Let's see, so it's all the fault of the TV station? Guess we can blame the media for Anthony Weiner too. So is the media supposed to just grin and pretend nothing happened. I don't think Torrence resigned because a tv station pointed this out as much as when brought to light, he was screwing off and was about to get fired.
Let's see, so it's all the fault of the TV station? Guess we can blame the media for Anthony Weiner too. So is the media supposed to just grin and pretend nothing happened. I don't think Torrence resigned because a tv station pointed this out as much as when brought to light, he was screwing off and was about to get fired.
[.msg1720611#msg1720611 date=1311087533]quote]Of course not but in a series of e-mail exchanges I had with Four's Finley it was made very plain he intended to do whatever it took to spur the removal of Torrence from office.
That's strong! It also instantly kills Finley's credibility if it's personal. I think Torrence, honestly hung himself .. believe me, this guy wouldn't just resign unless he knew he was toast.
But the original post blamed channel 4 and 5 for being out to get people. This is a town where in govt circles a lot of "ole boy" relationships resemble small towns. I have a strong feeling, knowing tv stations are worth a little more than radio stations, that these groups lawyer stories like this to death, and are careful with facts vs playing loose on emotion.
Since we're on a radio board, it's sad that major news stories are broken by tv stations and a paper. All radio is good for is spending 50cents to buy a paper and read it or keep the tv on for breaking news updates. Some radio stations aren't even using Ap anymore. Radio doesn't break news..it just breaks my heart that about the only information you get is a wx forecast, and on some stations, it's a tv person giving that.
That's strong! It also instantly kills Finley's credibility if it's personal. I think Torrence, honestly hung himself .. believe me, this guy wouldn't just resign unless he knew he was toast.
But the original post blamed channel 4 and 5 for being out to get people. This is a town where in govt circles a lot of "ole boy" relationships resemble small towns. I have a strong feeling, knowing tv stations are worth a little more than radio stations, that these groups lawyer stories like this to death, and are careful with facts vs playing loose on emotion.
Since we're on a radio board, it's sad that major news stories are broken by tv stations and a paper. All radio is good for is spending 50cents to buy a paper and read it or keep the tv on for breaking news updates. Some radio stations aren't even using Ap anymore. Radio doesn't break news..it just breaks my heart that about the only information you get is a wx forecast, and on some stations, it's a tv person giving that.
Re: I don't know if this is a factor or not, but the next closest ABC affiliates are much closer than the next closest NBC or CBS stations. ABC has affiliate stations in Bowling Green and Jackson, which naturally limits how far out WKRN can reach. Meanwhile, for the next closest NBC and CBS stations, you must go to Paducah, Cape Girardeau, or Memphis.
Bowling Green’s WNKY 40 (RF 16) is affiliated with NBC (HD) & CBS (SD).
With respect to ratings: Although there have been a good deal of very talented folks working at WKRN over the years, their work was compromised by other shortcomings. Example: WSMV & WTVF adopted advanced technology well before WKRN and promoted the heck out of that fact. By the time WKRN got around to it, it was ‘old news’.
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Bowling Green’s WNKY 40 (RF 16) is affiliated with NBC (HD) & CBS (SD).
With respect to ratings: Although there have been a good deal of very talented folks working at WKRN over the years, their work was compromised by other shortcomings. Example: WSMV & WTVF adopted advanced technology well before WKRN and promoted the heck out of that fact. By the time WKRN got around to it, it was ‘old news’.
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ADAMKY said:
True, but this is a VERY recent development. People's news preferences don't change all that quickly & if they've been watching WSMV & WTVF for years, they're not going to suddenly jump to WNKY.
For that matter, is WNKY doing any local news yet? (last I heard they ran local weather but no newscasts)
w9wi is 100% correct. The HD home penetration in Nashville is growing but not in the majority of homes and just going HD doesn't make a big change in trends. WTVF was first to go HD here and while they had a bump up some feel the introduction as the only one with a full time helicopter, about the same time, had as much influence giving a double whammy.
But in market after market few stations even promote HD as a unique feature or big deal because they've already been HD for years in prime time feeds. It just calls attention to the fact they were slow to upgrade the local news and who wants to admit that, really.
For older buildings like WTVF and WKRN the massive time needed to rewire also comes with surprise glitches and on air issues never expected, and it takes another 6 months for all the anchors to learn how to do makeup differently and get lighting effective. In other words, it's not always wise to be promoting "we're now in HD" when the engineer is still figuring it all out months afterwards.
For 50 years the station channel 8, now channel 2 never had product on the same level of WSMV or WTVF and owners have come and gone because they figure out later it's harder than it looks.
But in market after market few stations even promote HD as a unique feature or big deal because they've already been HD for years in prime time feeds. It just calls attention to the fact they were slow to upgrade the local news and who wants to admit that, really.
For older buildings like WTVF and WKRN the massive time needed to rewire also comes with surprise glitches and on air issues never expected, and it takes another 6 months for all the anchors to learn how to do makeup differently and get lighting effective. In other words, it's not always wise to be promoting "we're now in HD" when the engineer is still figuring it all out months afterwards.
For 50 years the station channel 8, now channel 2 never had product on the same level of WSMV or WTVF and owners have come and gone because they figure out later it's harder than it looks.
just curious: WKRN promoted the move to HD during the pre-season Titans games...
any ETA on when this might actually happen?
any ETA on when this might actually happen?
Actually, they did that last night.Jon J said:
And WSMV debuted their New Studio today.
I guess it shows it's one thing to do all that hype when you had something to watch (titans pregame), and not living up to it.
It's ready, all they had to do is show it.
Maybe today will FINALLY be the day, but either it way it shows the pecking order in Nashville TV:
WTVF = big dogs :
WSMV = close competitor
WZTV = strong alternative
WKRN = do they even exist?
One argument about WZTV is that they chose to debut with their weekend anchor as oppose to their main crew.
If it's your first broadcast on HD, go with the main team for once, it should've been a big deal, and they blew it big time.
I guess it shows it's one thing to do all that hype when you had something to watch (titans pregame), and not living up to it.
It's ready, all they had to do is show it.
Maybe today will FINALLY be the day, but either it way it shows the pecking order in Nashville TV:
WTVF = big dogs :
WSMV = close competitor
WZTV = strong alternative
WKRN = do they even exist?
One argument about WZTV is that they chose to debut with their weekend anchor as oppose to their main crew.
If it's your first broadcast on HD, go with the main team for once, it should've been a big deal, and they blew it big time.
I'm afraid Joe Blow or Sam Six Pack pretty much by majority does not really give a tinkers damn about the sharp definition and 16x9 aspect ratio. It is and always has been about the program content and execution. Same thing for radio for the most part except substitute jingles, fancy promotions, deep voiced imaging and audio processing. All window dressing and one-upsmanship that industry people look at while most others really don't care or even notice. As an analogy, you can underscore poor content or good content with little real results in the end.
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Actually, they beat WSMV by a day by doing that, so maybe they didn't "blow it," after all!oldvnewschool said:
firepoint525 said:
WSMV's been HD for a couple of years. WZTV did beat us to the new set. I'm surprised WKRN didn't go HD yesterday, thought I'd heard that was their launch date too.
And just to make sure nobody gets left out... yesterday the FCC approved WTVF's application to move to channel 25...
w9wi said:
maybe WKRN took a look at WZTV's first HD newscasts...and decided to work on the lighting before launching...
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