WLIR: It's going to hell, isn't it?

[Radio121]

They have been in business for over 20 years doing local radio. so who is smarter, us or them?
I give credit when credit is due, and I tell it like it is when they do wrong.
I love local radio. Call me a nerd, but radio is in me. I wish I worked in radio.

I check this board a lot. The only time we have any activity is when tmo. LIE or LIX do something. Three companies that are local radio and make money, more than you and I.
So who's calling who stupid.
Be real, we as local radio buff's should want them to be successful.

 

[mkdanz]

I check this board a lot. The only time we have any activity is when tmo. LIE or LIX do something. Three companies that are local radio and make money, more than you and I.
So who's calling who stupid.
Be real, we as local radio buff's should want them to be successful.

I'm not sure where you are going with this comment. LIE and LIX are locally owned but are not 'local radio' anymore. TMO just blew up local radio on 107.1 in favor of ESPN, after blowing up all three properties previously by firing nearly its entire staff and going with 30 minute sponsorships. Party and LaFiesta are local but 98.5 was recently BTRN and TMO TRIED to sell the entire chain to BTRN and failed. Being licensed locally and making money is not my definition of local radio, just local business.

Also, on the first page of this board alone, there are 9 threads pertaining to Long Island radio stations that are not the three you mentioned above. Each have posts in December or January. So please, what was your point? I'd like to understand it.

 

[PSA_Man]

I thought this was pretty amusing:

http://www.moreyorg.com/

Check out the company slogan, it's not hard to catch ;D

LOL!!! all i have to say.

 

[Radio121]

I check this board a lot. The only time we have any activity is when tmo. LIE or LIX do something. Three companies that are local radio and make money, more than you and I.
So who's calling who stupid.
Be real, we as local radio buff's should want them to be successful.

I'm not sure where you are going with this comment. LIE and LIX are locally owned but are not 'local radio' anymore. TMO just blew up local radio on 107.1 in favor of ESPN, after blowing up all three properties previously by firing nearly its entire staff and going with 30 minute sponsorships. Party and LaFiesta are local but 98.5 was recently BTRN and TMO TRIED to sell the entire chain to BTRN and failed. Being licensed locally and making money is not my definition of local radio, just local business.

Also, on the first page of this board alone, there are 9 threads pertaining to Long Island radio stations that are not the three you mentioned above. Each have posts in December or January. So please, what was your point? I'd like to understand it.

I'm not sure what 9 posts not mentioning those stations has anything to do with anything.
My point, tmo and LIE are the only locally owned facilities left on LI. The programming they choose, syndicated, local, pre-produced is, I think, important to operation of their business. And that's that. Rank on either of them all you want, both tried to sell, could not, had to reinvent their business models made mistakes, came back, and seem to be doing well so far.

Take a look at the entire radio medium, all major groups are having problems and trying to reinvent their facilities. Most groups make mistakes but how that company deals with their mistakes are what makes a company thrive.

Success stories are from groups that change and develop, take risks, make mistakes.

Tmo takes risks. They survive, they make money, they change with the times, sometimes that change is right, sometimes it is wrong.

I think TMO is right with this move. The only spanish FM on LI. The pickup of 96.9 to cover the Islip area with the station, ( I hear a lot of advertising on the station). Party never sounded better with Vic and Nikki back. The pickup of 101.5 to bring party to Nassau is huge.

If what I hear or read is true about ESPN, I like that. I live in Hampton Bays and have to listen to FAN on line. I would love to have a sports outlet here, there are none.

So radiofan, my long winded point. I like local companies running local radio stations.

I just read this too.


www.libn.com/article.htm?articleID=41075

go down to the middle of the page, story is Hispanic radio a hit.

 

[radiosgreatest1]

I check this board a lot. The only time we have any activity is when tmo. LIE or LIX do something. Three companies that are local radio and make money, more than you and I.
So who's calling who stupid.
Be real, we as local radio buff's should want them to be successful.

I'm not sure where you are going with this comment. LIE and LIX are locally owned but are not 'local radio' anymore. TMO just blew up local radio on 107.1 in favor of ESPN, after blowing up all three properties previously by firing nearly its entire staff and going with 30 minute sponsorships. Party and LaFiesta are local but 98.5 was recently BTRN and TMO TRIED to sell the entire chain to BTRN and failed. Being licensed locally and making money is not my definition of local radio, just local business.

Also, on the first page of this board alone, there are 9 threads pertaining to Long Island radio stations that are not the three you mentioned above. Each have posts in December or January. So please, what was your point? I'd like to understand it.

I'm not sure what 9 posts not mentioning those stations has anything to do with anything.
My point, tmo and LIE are the only locally owned facilities left on LI. The programming they choose, syndicated, local, pre-produced is, I think, important to operation of their business. And that's that. Rank on either of them all you want, both tried to sell, could not, had to reinvent their business models made mistakes, came back, and seem to be doing well so far.

Take a look at the entire radio medium, all major groups are having problems and trying to reinvent their facilities. Most groups make mistakes but how that company deals with their mistakes are what makes a company thrive.

Success stories are from groups that change and develop, take risks, make mistakes.

Tmo takes risks. They survive, they make money, they change with the times, sometimes that change is right, sometimes it is wrong.

I think TMO is right with this move. The only spanish FM on LI. The pickup of 96.9 to cover the Islip area with the station, ( I hear a lot of advertising on the station). Party never sounded better with Vic and Nikki back. The pickup of 101.5 to bring party to Nassau is huge.

If what I hear or read is true about ESPN, I like that. I live in Hampton Bays and have to listen to FAN on line. I would love to have a sports outlet here, there are none.

So radiofan, my long winded point. I like local companies running local radio stations.

I just read this too.


www.libn.com/article.htm?articleID=41075

go down to the middle of the page, story is Hispanic radio a hit.

so you work for TMO?..because there are other local-run radio stations on Long Island..

 

[Radio121]

I did part time there about 6 years ago.
As far as local owned I can only think of WLNG, WRIV, WLIE and TMO. Can you tell me of others.\
I also think TMO is the only local owned group on LI,
Barnst - NO
AAA - NO
Walk
BLI no no

No other groups right?

 

[reddg108]

For some reason i think you still are working for tmo radio??? Right vic i mean radio daze.... You keep on mentioning this money thing.. WHAT MONEY?? Minus 4 years ago when they sold WLIR which is the only thing you brought up. If you walk into that dumpy office and go in the conference room you can see right in front of your own eyes who is advertising on the radio on all 3 stations now 2. There are 30 accts and dont worry i added the ad agency accts that have several accts on the radio. So divided 30 accts by 2 and that is 15 back, then it was 3 stations but i will give you the benefit of doubt here. So really this number can be less because i highly doubt that WLIR advertisers are going on party or fiesta. Yes radiodaze you are correct i am ex employee of tmo radio and dam glad to be one. What does that have to say about all that money you are talking about.... Not much to me.....

 

[radiosgreatest1]

I did part time there about 6 years ago.
As far as local owned I can only think of WLNG, WRIV, WLIE and TMO. Can you tell me of others.\
I also think TMO is the only local owned group on LI,
Barnst - NO
AAA - NO
Walk
BLI no no

No other groups right?

Cherry Creek...DUH..
WNYG is a local ran radio station...

 

[PSA_Man]

TMO EMPLOYEE FOR SURE!!!

All I can say about the talents mentioned; cool peoples but um... I don't see the likes of Nikki being a ratings draw especially if the target demo are females all i can see her doing is bringing more guys not to mention when she's up against Astra on BLI. TMO may be filling formats that are missing but it seems to me that they are more as a result of looking for an area of no competition rather than smarts. Competition would destroy these "smart, money making" stations which may I add... have what 2 spots a stop set, yep they are rolling in the cash.

 

[PSA_Man]

I think TMO is right with this move. The only spanish FM on LI. The pickup of 96.9 to cover the Islip area with the station, ( I hear a lot of advertising on the station). Party never sounded better with Vic and Nikki back. The pickup of 101.5 to bring party to Nassau is huge.

here is where ego out powers logic and smarts. to take WDRE into Nassau is only going to give Z100 in the morning and BLI during the rest of the day a punching bag. Who in their right mind would take on 2 power houses with, well WDRE?

well at least now when clear channel and cox aren't looking good they'll have the ability to brag about how they pounded TMO.

 

[mkdanz]

here is where ego out powers logic and smarts. to take WDRE into Nassau is only going to give Z100 in the morning and BLI during the rest of the day a punching bag. Who in their right mind would take on 2 power houses with, well WDRE?

OK, so if you aren't BLI or Z100 you shouldn't bother operating a radio station in market 18? No one is 'going after' Clear Channel and Cox. They are spending A LOT less money than the big guys, are inexpensively expanding their reach, which means the chance at more advertisers. And by the way, Party 105 is nothing like Z100 or BLI. Its an excellent, low risk, low cost move to expand Party's reach.

IMHO TMO has an outside chance to do with Party, what WLIR did the early 80s. Its a very well programmed, niche format that could gain a strong following wherever it can be heard. WLIR really was 'World Famous' once upon a time. Wouldn't it be wild if something similar could be done with Party?

 

[PSA_Man]

here is where ego out powers logic and smarts. to take WDRE into Nassau is only going to give Z100 in the morning and BLI during the rest of the day a punching bag. Who in their right mind would take on 2 power houses with, well WDRE?

OK, so if you aren't BLI or Z100 you shouldn't bother operating a radio station in market 18? No one is 'going after' Clear Channel and Cox. They are spending A LOT less money than the big guys, are inexpensively expanding their reach, which means the chance at more advertisers. And by the way, Party 105 is nothing like Z100 or BLI. Its an excellent, low risk, low cost move to expand Party's reach.

IMHO TMO has an outside chance to do with Party, what WLIR did the early 80s. Its a very well programmed, niche format that could gain a strong following wherever it can be heard. WLIR really was 'World Famous' once upon a time. Wouldn't it be wild if something similar could be done with Party?

nope not at all what i'm saying. You can and you should take on BLI & Z but if you are in radio especially the top 20 market, you ought to know that if you are gonna take on big dogs you need to have a chance, from air talent to sound quality to production elements that WDRE lacks. format wise it's an awesome format but the truth is, there is a reason that format is pretty much dead and that's because that format will get you what 2 maybe 3 shares if that and will never contend with top 40. It's a great format but it's an unsupported format everyone who says they love it never support it. There is a reason why top 40 format is a dominant format in every market.
I'm just saying they are already at a disadvantage (format wise) add to that the 260 market sound & jocks that DRE has, it's set up to fail.

 

[PSA_Man]

here is where ego out powers logic and smarts. to take WDRE into Nassau is only going to give Z100 in the morning and BLI during the rest of the day a punching bag. Who in their right mind would take on 2 power houses with, well WDRE?

IMHO TMO has an outside chance to do with Party, what WLIR did the early 80s. Its a very well programmed, niche format that could gain a strong following wherever it can be heard. WLIR really was 'World Famous' once upon a time. Wouldn't it be wild if something similar could be done with Party?

exactly an outside chance to be like WLIR at which brings us back to the threads title. LIR great format + no support = ESPN take over.

 

[motnow]

Didn't anyone notice that, in Suffolk county, we already have ESPN radio coming in, with fairly good reception, from Connecticut?
Why do we need another outlet? So what if you get traffic reports about Route 95; its still ESPN radio.
FM is getting inundated with overlapping simulcasts. It used to be only NPR; now its all over the rest of the dial.

 

[nd2023]

ESPN 1450 from Atlantic City comes in really strong in eastern Long Island too, it's all water between the transmitter in NJ and LI.
What's the point of simulcasting Party 105.3 on 107.1, when they're from the same tower? As if the people who listen to Party 105 on 107.1 would listen to sports radio. They're flushing the audience twice, since most of LIR's audience won't like Party 105.
I wish that 105.3 translator in Connecticut didn't exist. Before it came on, I was able to hear Party 105 from just east of New Haven to Norwalk along I95. At least on 101.5, I can hear it from Stamford to New Rochelle.

 

[radiosgreatest1]

At least on 101.5, I can hear it from Stamford to New Rochelle.

That Shouldn't be happening...sounds like something fishy going on over there...

 

[nd2023]

A sensitive car radio can get it. I even had NJ 101.5 interfering with Party 101.5 in Stamford.

 

[MarcB]

Someone on the dentist board posted that in All Access today it mentioned that WEPN 1050 will be simulcast on 107.1 WLIR beginning Monday. This in addition to the new simulcast coming to 1040 AM in Flemington, New Jersey.

 

[PSA_Man]

Someone on the dentist board posted that in All Access today it mentioned that WEPN 1050 will be simulcast on 107.1 WLIR beginning Monday. This in addition to the new simulcast coming to 1040 AM in Flemington, New Jersey.

of course isn't that they way radio works now... you take away choices and wah-la!!! you get ratings... not cause your good but cause there is no other option.

will radio ever return to the beautiful industry it once was....

 

[mkdanz]

Someone on the dentist board posted that in All Access today it mentioned that WEPN 1050 will be simulcast on 107.1 WLIR beginning Monday. This in addition to the new simulcast coming to 1040
will radio ever return to the beautiful industry it once was....

reddg108 told us this back on December 29th. We don't need someone else's board or All Access to obtain our info!