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WLIR/WBON/WDRE SOLD

Well, that's because they're no longer on 92.7. They had a nice signal back in those days and they even had listener hotlines in places like New Jersey and Westchester.

The new tower site is going to be south of Riverhead, so that's still very far out east. With other 107.1's on the frequency in Westchester and coastal NJ, I can't see them moving any further west, and I think they're taking a reduction in wattage to do the move too.

It's really a shame that both WLIR and WDRE can't really be heard anywhere near the city. I really thought that WLIR had something going in its final months on 92.7, with its mix of alternative-ish rock and pop, the 80s stuff and the nightly alternative dance music (some of which was also interspersed in the playlist throughout the day). There were plans for a booster in Manhattan, and there was also talk about importing the Party format full-time to 92.7, which I'm sure would have done pretty well. So many things that could have been, but perhaps the one competent business move TMO has made was taking that $62 million from Univision, which has since floundered with that frequency.
 
Neo - The article is saying 25 miles west. I cannot see the new tower anywhere near Riverhead if thats true. Much further west than that.
 
It may be that the 25 mile figure is wrong, but the CP is definitely south of Riverhead.

Here is the current primary contour coverage map for WLIR, from the FCC:
http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Databases/fm_tv_service_areas/maps/FM273292.gif

And the primary contour map for their new construction permit, also from the FCC:
http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Databases/fm_tv_service_areas/maps/FM1058829.gif

This can also be seen on Radio Locator:
Current: http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WLIR&service=FM&status=L&hours=U
Future: http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WLIR&service=FM&status=C&hours=U

As you can see, it's not going to get out too much further west unfortunately, and indeed, it will have a directional signal with lower power towards the west to protect The Peak and The Breeze.
 
Neo - Unfortunately I don't know too much about this permit stuff so thanks for your help with this. Since the new owner has flat out stated in the articles that the LIR signal will cover most if not all of Long Island is it possible that they are filing a new permit once they get ownership or even possibly changing frequencies?? Thanks!
 
What they might try to do is purchase another radio station and simulcast WLIR on both frequencies. I can't see them being allowed to do anything more with 107.1, with other stations on the same frequency so close by.

I'm hoping something can happen so I can also hear my beloved station again in Queens, where I used to get a solid signal on 92.7. Whether or not that will actually happen will remain to be seen, but the only thing that's certain is that it won't be able to put out much more power or move the existing 107.1 stick much further to the west.
 
About 25 miles west of the current stick is Bald Hill, along the Selden/Farmingville border.
Coincidentally, WALK-FM, which is being sold by Clear Channel, has its antenna there.

I don't know if BTR would be foolish enough to tamper with the success that station has had with it's AC format, but that is a possibility.

The only other full-power, commercial antenna up there is WBLI.
 
MUSCLE13 said:
Since the new owner has flat out stated in the articles that the LIR signal will cover most if not all of Long Island is it possible that they are filing a new permit once they get ownership or even possibly changing frequencies??

Part of that same release said that they'd be acquiring another radio property and making announcement by the end of the year. No such announcement has been made, so I think everything has to be taken with a grain of salt.
 
They've been trying to move this signal west for 25 years. It's never going to happen. The three 107.1's (jersey, long island and westchester) have to be the three shortest spaced FM's in the country. The only way that any of these stations will ever get the coverage they are looking for is to own all three and shut two off. The Breeze actually likely has the best signal of the three and may even get NYC if LIR and XPK were gone.
 
When you say they've been trying for 25 years, are you referring to WLIR dating back to when it was on 92.7 (which wouldn't make sense because 92.7 was on the Queens-Nassau border), or the 107.1 signal in Hampton Bays, going back 25 years?

Whatever attempts were made in the past, it looks like it will move west now, as the FCC has approved (since 2005) a CP. It's not a drastic move though and the signal will barely even make it to Central Suffolk county.

I had read somewhere once that when Y-107 had all four sticks on 107.1 (the three mentioned in your post plus another 107.1 squeezed in to Northwest NJ), the antenna systems were reconfigured to eliminate as much co-channel interference as possible between the sticks. As a result, I had read that WXPK's antenna was actually pointed the wrong way, towards Long Island instead of, I believe, south. I read that back in 2003 on another message board, back when WXPK was beginning its short-lived K-104 simulcast. That, along with the clear water path the LI sound affords, may explain WXPK's excellent signal along much of the North Shore of LI, whereas only a few miles south of their tower site, in the South Bronx or in Northern Queens, the signal is pretty weak.

You are right, the only way we can really see any real expansion for LIR on that frequency is if BNR purchases one of the other 107.1 sticks. I see that as somewhat unlikely though.
 
I believe they are moving 107.1 to the existing 98.5 and 105.3 site (the SBA tower), which is on Rock Hill which is just off county route 111.
It's the biggest antenna out that way.
 
My old Windows Media URL for WLIR now broadcasts BTRN. Does anyone have an alternate Windows Media URL for 'LIR? I saw the Real Audio URL below from Evan.

Thanks
 
Mike, that is a Windows Media stream. If it doesnt work for you substitute http:// for the mms://

Try it now before the format tweek.
 
I know, I am looking for a Windows Media Stream, not the Real Audio stream.

I'm out of the loop, what's the next tweak gonna be? DJs?
 
Ok, maybe I'm having a senior moment, but THAT IS a Windows Media Stream and that fact has been pointed out before.

We know you don't a Real Audio stream and want WMp.. that's what I thought they posted.

OR AM I MISSING SOMETING??
 
I believe mms starts Real Audio Player, not Windows Media Player. I was looking for something to use in the Windows client.
 
I have been educated. When I type mms:// in my browser, it always activated Real Player. I didn't know that I could type that URL directly into WMP to use that client for mms protocol.

Thanks.
 
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