In the past, of lot of those places you mentioned had The Wave WNWV playing.
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WMJI's winning ways
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What would the TSL need to be to consider an individual a longer span listener?
Are the music logs for WMJI still tinkered with at the local level, or was that done away with when Keith Abrams left five years ago? (Abrams had enough pull to keep WMJI a predominantly 60s-70s station after most classic hits stations already began putting in 80s tracks.) It's almost entirely programmed at the corporate level.
Outside of a few scattered shifts like the aforementioned Scott Davison and Keith Kennedy, Majic has no local presence when Nolan is done.
Keith Kennedy is officially listed as the PD and MD. If it's being programmed somewhere else, they're doing a great job.
Going through the WMJI playlist history it's not the same as any of the national stations on iHeart and the out of market VTd shifts all sound customized for the station.
I wish Keith Kennedy and Scott Davidson would do PM drive and/or nights rather than having them do overnights/weekends and having the out of market folks do PM drive.
I wish Keith Kennedy and Scott Davidson would do PM drive and/or nights rather than having them do overnights/weekends and having the out of market folks do PM drive.
Just a reminder: WMJI is #1 in Cleveland.
Yes. Among a less discriminating audience these days who still listen to radio.
Cleveland was one of the few markets where Stern was NOT consistently #1 12+ in the morning. That was Lanigan on WMJI just about every time.
That's pretty elitist. How do you know? Maybe the more discriminating audience has passed away or has gone deaf in their old age.
Radio stations program to the people who listen. Nothing wrong with that. People like what people like.
It should be pretty obvious by the falling cume numbers of Cleveland radio over the last several years where -- at the same time -- the growth of more targeted and sophisticated online options have increased dramatically.
Plus, Denny Sanders was the WMJI Program Director when the station had its highest ratings of the decade. I believe that this period also holds the record for the station's all-time, highest revenue even to this day.
I'll say it again: People want like people like. People now have choices they didn't have 30 years ago. Lanigan is lucky he left when he did.
Targeting means smaller audiences. Radio programs to the masses. What worked 30 years ago won't attract the numbers it once did.
The other thing contributing to falling cume numbers is the decline in Cleveland's population. Down 6% in 5 years. Down 25% since 2010.
Lanigan retired. He was approached, essentially begged, to be on WTAM with Triv. He hated Triv, but the $$$ talked louder. Like it did for Myles Garrett. Lanigan, for one hour a day, was paid over $100K a year. I know that for a fact. He did it as long as he could stomach Triv, who had 1/10th the talent of Lanigan. How he got ratings is beyond me. On WMJI Lanigan only played music 530-6am, Cash Bribe not counted, up until the last two years or so, then started to play more in the 9am hour. I don't count mornings as part of the "less music more personality" point you're making, BECAUSE Lanigan's show was a normal morning show. It was a talk/interview show. I was there.
I think you are looking at the City of Cleveland population, as opposed to the entire metro area. Cleveland metro area is currently 1.78 million. 5 years ago: 1.76 million. 10 years ago: 1.77 million.
No I'm looking at the radio market according to Nielsen. Cleveland was once a Top 20 market. That's how it was able to attract major sports teams and a world class symphony. Now Cincinnati is a bigger market. Pittsburgh is a bigger market. At one time, people in Pittsburgh looked up to Cleveland. They were seen as the big city. Not anymore. Cleveland was important because of it's size. Now it's no longer a major market. Other areas have grown and replaced Cleveland in the rankings.
| 31 | Pittsburgh PA | 03-26-25 | PPM | 2,006,500 |
| 32 | Las Vegas NV | 03-26-25 | PPM | 1,991,900 |
| 33 | Cincinnati OH | 03-26-25 | PPM | 1,902,500 |
| 34 | Kansas City MO | 03-26-25 | PPM | 1,832,800 |
| 35 | Cleveland OH | 03-26-25 | PPM | 1,796,900 |
| 36 | Columbus OH | 03-26-25 | PPM | 1,761,800 |
| 37 | Raleigh-Durham NC | 03-27-25 | PPM | 1,761,100 |
WMJI hasn't been live after 10AM for almost 20 years. VT, yes. But not "live".
I remember when CLE was Mkt 22. Tampa was 24. Not long ago DET was a Top 10. I worked in Raleigh when Mkt 45. I can remember Vegas skyrocketing from 60+ to the 30s. Columbus... so many transients given Ohio State's 250K "population".
They just measure what station and how long, whether the method is the PPM or the diary. Trying to define the difference between listening, and hearing would be an impossible task
He also is a regional VP overseeing markets throughout Ohio and handles WKDD's morning show. (He also lurked and posted occasionally on the Radio Insight boards before becoming a regional manager.) He might have some oversight on WMJI's music logs but given everything else on his plate, it's not going to be at the same level Keith Abrams had.
It speaks to the strengths of iHeart's programming teams.