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WNCI 97.9 now streaming

M

mattii70

Now available on their website, and here's the backdoor link to play through Windows Media Player.

32k Mono:
http://a1287.l2180745537.c21807.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1287/21807/v0001/reflector:45537<P ID="signature">______________
Searchable list of stations streaming from the USA
www.thestreamcenter.com</P>
 
> Now available on their website, and here's the backdoor link
> to play through Windows Media Player.
>
> 32k Mono:
http://a1287.l2180745537.c21> 807.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1287/21807/v0001/reflector:45537
>
Great to finally WNCI back to streaming which means all Major CC CHR's in Ohio are back online.
 
> > Now available on their website, and here's the backdoor
> link
> > to play through Windows Media Player.
> >
> > 32k Mono:
> http://a1287.l2180745537.c21>
> 807.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1287/21807/v0001/reflector:45537
>
> >
> Great to finally WNCI back to streaming which means all
> Major CC CHR's in Ohio are back online.
>


Too long overdue...
 
I'd like to add one thing, I work at my college radio station, and most of our people sound better than that night guy Joey Hoops. He managed to annoy me within the first five minutes of my listening.
 
> I'd like to add one thing, I work at my college radio
> station, and most of our people sound better than that night
> guy Joey Hoops. He managed to annoy me within the first
> five minutes of my listening.
>

I swore I was not gonna reply to this thread but I can't help myself. WNCI, hoops, dave, jimmy, and the rest of the zoo can go you know what themselves.

Thank you and have a nice day.
<P ID="signature">______________
Incognito!

You don't know me.</P>
 
> I swore I was not gonna reply to this thread but I can't
> help myself. WNCI, hoops, dave, jimmy, and the rest of the
> zoo can go you know what themselves.
>
> Thank you and have a nice day.
>

I'm sorry, I don't get what "go you know what themselves" means. Do you mean they can pat themselves on the back for obtaining and holding listeners for an unheard-of run? Because I still have trouble seeing why someone would continue to bash something that is unbeatable in every desirable ratings breakdown, unless he is frustrated by his inability to top them in any way. And maybe they should feel pathetic because "Incognito!" has a problem with them. The strong listenership, the improved night ratings, the heritage, the revenue, the Zoo's bright future, and their fat salaries will have to console them. I hope they can pull through.
 
> Now available on their website, and here's the backdoor link
> to play through Windows Media Player.
>
> 32k Mono:
http://a1287.l2180745537.c21> 807.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1287/21807/v0001/reflector:45537
>

Why bother? What is so unique about WNCI that someone would need to hear their particular programming instead of whatever's on their local CHR? I thought the whole point of the KISS format was to make it McRadio, something that's pretty much the same from market to market. I know WNCI technically isn't a KISS, but a rose (or a turd, in this case) by any other name would smell as stale.

Are there really people outside the WNCI signal coverage area who just can't get enough of Dave and Jimmy? Or who just can't seem to find a local station willing to play Usher, Kelly Clarkson or Beyonce?
 
> > I swore I was not gonna reply to this thread but I can't
> > help myself. WNCI, hoops, dave, jimmy, and the rest of the
>
> > zoo can go you know what themselves.
> >
> > Thank you and have a nice day.
> >
>
> I'm sorry, I don't get what "go you know what themselves"
> means. Do you mean they can pat themselves on the back for
> obtaining and holding listeners for an unheard-of run?
> Because I still have trouble seeing why someone would
> continue to bash something that is unbeatable in every
> desirable ratings breakdown, unless he is frustrated by his
> inability to top them in any way. And maybe they should feel
> pathetic because "Incognito!" has a problem with them. The
> strong listenership, the improved night ratings, the
> heritage, the revenue, the Zoo's bright future, and their
> fat salaries will have to console them. I hope they can pull
> through.
>

Well since you are a "daytonradiodude" I wouldn't expect you to understand therefore I'm not even going to bother trying to explain it to you.<P ID="signature">______________
Incognito!

You don't know me.</P>
 
> Well since you are a "daytonradiodude" I wouldn't expect you
> to understand therefore I'm not even going to bother trying
> to explain it to you.
>

Well since you are obviously "bitter" I wouldn't expect you to give WNCI, or me, any reasonable analysis anyway therefore I'm not even going to bother losing sleep over your attempt to justify your "bitterness."
Besides, because my handle includes dayton, you assume I'm not up to speed on, or possibly even part of, the Columbus radio market?
 
> > Well since you are a "daytonradiodude" I wouldn't expect
> you
> > to understand therefore I'm not even going to bother
> trying
> > to explain it to you.
> >
>
> Well since you are obviously "bitter" I wouldn't expect you
> to give WNCI, or me, any reasonable analysis anyway
> therefore I'm not even going to bother losing sleep over
> your attempt to justify your "bitterness."
> Besides, because my handle includes dayton, you assume I'm
> not up to speed on, or possibly even part of, the Columbus
> radio market?
>

I'm only bitter that there is no other CHR in this market. You can go ahead and "pat yourself on the back" or "toot your own horn" all you want Mr. CC radio dude but that doesn't take away the fact that WNCI is extremely overrated, repetitive, boring, and bland.

Since this thread was about WNCI streaming the internet, anyone who listens to internet CHR's other than WNCI knows how much better a CHR in this town could be. <P ID="signature">______________
Incognito!

You don't know me.</P>
 
> Why bother? What is so unique about WNCI that someone would
> need to hear their particular programming instead of
> whatever's on their local CHR? I thought the whole point of
> the KISS format was to make it McRadio, something that's
> pretty much the same from market to market. I know WNCI
> technically isn't a KISS, but a rose (or a turd, in this
> case) by any other name would smell as stale.
>
> Are there really people outside the WNCI signal coverage
> area who just can't get enough of Dave and Jimmy? Or who
> just can't seem to find a local station willing to play
> Usher, Kelly Clarkson or Beyonce?

You raise an interesting point.
Do you have problems against all stations streaming? Many stations, as we know, stream as much for the people inside their own market (those in office buildings, etc.) as those outside. I personally enjoy listening to stations from other cities via the Net that I listen to when I visit those cities, and likewise when I was in college away from Columbus I loved listening to stations from home that streamed.
Don't get me wrong, I personally think WNCI stinks (but I'm 27 and I think I've outgrown the repetitive nature of Top 40 I enjoyed when I was 17 or 18), but I see no problem with them streaming. With the current culture of radio, they should have been streaming long ago.
 
So you're going to blame and slam WNCI because there is no competition against them? I would be blaming Saga, CBS Radio, RadiOhio, Radio One, North American, and all the others for not having the guts to go up against WNCI. That's a fact!

So since you're going to say that WNCI sucks and is overrated, i'm now going to say CD101 sucks because there is no other alternative station in Columbus, and The Blitz sucks because there are no other active rock stations in Columbus, and Oldies 107.9 sucks because there is no other oldies stations in Columbus, and Smooth Jazz 103.5 and 104.3 sucks because there are no other Jazz stations in Columbus, and WCOL-FM sucks because there are no other new country stations in Columbus, and 610 WTVN sucks because there are no other conservative talk stations in Columbus, and Progressive Talk 1230 sucks because there are no other liberal talk stations in Columbus, and 1460 The Fan sucks because there are no other all-sports stations in Columbus.

>
> I'm only bitter that there is no other CHR in this market.
> You can go ahead and "pat yourself on the back" or "toot
> your own horn" all you want Mr. CC radio dude but that
> doesn't take away the fact that WNCI is extremely overrated,
> repetitive, boring, and bland.
>
 
> So you're going to blame and slam WNCI because there is no
> competition against them? I would be blaming Saga, CBS
> Radio, RadiOhio, Radio One, North American, and all the
> others for not having the guts to go up against WNCI. That's
> a fact!
>
> So since you're going to say that WNCI sucks and is
> overrated, i'm now going to say CD101 sucks because there is
> no other alternative station in Columbus, and The Blitz
> sucks because there are no other active rock stations in
> Columbus, and Oldies 107.9 sucks because there is no other
> oldies stations in Columbus, and Smooth Jazz 103.5 and 104.3
> sucks because there are no other Jazz stations in Columbus,
> and WCOL-FM sucks because there are no other new country
> stations in Columbus, and 610 WTVN sucks because there are
> no other conservative talk stations in Columbus, and
> Progressive Talk 1230 sucks because there are no other
> liberal talk stations in Columbus, and 1460 The Fan sucks
> because there are no other all-sports stations in Columbus.
>

More importantly, what do you believe should be different about WNCI to make it less "repetitive and boring?" Then, let's hear of a CHR in existence today, CC or not, who has the ratings and revenue successes that WNCI enjoys consistently, and that also pleases you.
Some people never grasp that radio isn't supposed to be programmed for radio people. The listeners need repetition in a format like that. They catch their absolute favorite song about THREE times a week. That's all: 3 times. They hear 15 minutes at a time and get a good mix in that 15 minutes. They don't listen to the layers of imaging, the reads from the voice guys, the dramatic promo wording, and they don't care about what song is an A, B, C, F, Z, etc. This station works for Columbus' CHR fans. They don't care about other non-CC stations streaming from NY, LA, Chicago, or even Podunk. WNCI plays the music they want to hear, and the DJs entertain them between songs. It has an image and feeling that they have made a part of their routine.
Finally, I didn't cheer for CC at any point. I stated facts: WNCI is highly rated, listeners don't have a problem with it, and you are on the message board saying that the guys at 'NCI can "go you know what themselves" in spite of their track record. You don't have to be a CC fan to see that this station knows how to win in Columbus.
 
> > Why bother? What is so unique about WNCI that someone
> would
> > need to hear their particular programming instead of
> > whatever's on their local CHR? I thought the whole point
> of
> > the KISS format was to make it McRadio, something that's
> > pretty much the same from market to market. I know WNCI
> > technically isn't a KISS, but a rose (or a turd, in this
> > case) by any other name would smell as stale.
> >
> > Are there really people outside the WNCI signal coverage
> > area who just can't get enough of Dave and Jimmy? Or who
> > just can't seem to find a local station willing to play
> > Usher, Kelly Clarkson or Beyonce?


>
> You raise an interesting point.
> Do you have problems against all stations streaming?

I think streaming radio content over the Internet is a Good Thing, but I don't think that it's necessary for every station. There are a lot of sources (WOXY and KEXP are two obvious examples) that offer unique content that you literally will not find anywhere else. The availability of that kind of programming from coast to coast is important and valuable.

I suppose there might be people who really want to listen to WNCI at work but might not be able to listen to a radio, but really how many people can that be? Enough to offset the cost of bandwidth and licensing? There are dozens - probably hundreds - of places on the Internet to find the same music that WNCI plays. For them to steam their own signal makes them a drop in the ocean.

As for people out of market who might listen, I have a hard time believing that anyone would prefer WNCI's take on CHR over whatever they get locally or what they could hear out of a bigger market. If Ronnie and Bonnie in Marietta wanted to hear something like what WNCI does, why would they content themseleves with something out of Columbus when they could have similar music with better jocks, promotions and interviews on a station from Atlanta or LA? I know it all comes down to preference in the end, but again we have to wonder if enough people prefer WNCI to justify the cost of streaming to them.
 
> > So you're going to blame and slam WNCI because there is no
>
> > competition against them? I would be blaming Saga, CBS
> > Radio, RadiOhio, Radio One, North American, and all the
> > others for not having the guts to go up against WNCI.
> That's
> > a fact!
> >
> > So since you're going to say that WNCI sucks and is
> > overrated, i'm now going to say CD101 sucks because there
> is
> > no other alternative station in Columbus, and The Blitz
> > sucks because there are no other active rock stations in
> > Columbus, and Oldies 107.9 sucks because there is no other
>
> > oldies stations in Columbus, and Smooth Jazz 103.5 and
> 104.3
> > sucks because there are no other Jazz stations in
> Columbus,
> > and WCOL-FM sucks because there are no other new country
> > stations in Columbus, and 610 WTVN sucks because there are
>
> > no other conservative talk stations in Columbus, and
> > Progressive Talk 1230 sucks because there are no other
> > liberal talk stations in Columbus, and 1460 The Fan sucks
> > because there are no other all-sports stations in
> Columbus.
> >
>
> More importantly, what do you believe should be different
> about WNCI to make it less "repetitive and boring?" Then,
> let's hear of a CHR in existence today, CC or not, who has
> the ratings and revenue successes that WNCI enjoys
> consistently, and that also pleases you.
> Some people never grasp that radio isn't supposed to be
> programmed for radio people. The listeners need repetition
> in a format like that. They catch their absolute favorite
> song about THREE times a week. That's all: 3 times. They
> hear 15 minutes at a time and get a good mix in that 15
> minutes. They don't listen to the layers of imaging, the
> reads from the voice guys, the dramatic promo wording, and
> they don't care about what song is an A, B, C, F, Z, etc.
> This station works for Columbus' CHR fans. They don't care
> about other non-CC stations streaming from NY, LA, Chicago,
> or even Podunk. WNCI plays the music they want to hear, and
> the DJs entertain them between songs. It has an image and
> feeling that they have made a part of their routine.
> Finally, I didn't cheer for CC at any point. I stated facts:
> WNCI is highly rated, listeners don't have a problem with
> it, and you are on the message board saying that the guys at
> 'NCI can "go you know what themselves" in spite of their
> track record. You don't have to be a CC fan to see that this
> station knows how to win in Columbus.


if you want to listen to a decent CHR....travel north a little bit and tune in to mix 94.3.....they do a pretty good job with the limited resources cheap channel provides them.
>
 
> More importantly, what do you believe should be different
> about WNCI to make it less "repetitive and boring?" Then,
> let's hear of a CHR in existence today, CC or not, who has
> the ratings and revenue successes that WNCI enjoys
> consistently, and that also pleases you.
> Some people never grasp that radio isn't supposed to be
> programmed for radio people. The listeners need repetition
> in a format like that. They catch their absolute favorite
> song about THREE times a week. That's all: 3 times. They
> hear 15 minutes at a time and get a good mix in that 15
> minutes. They don't listen to the layers of imaging, the
> reads from the voice guys, the dramatic promo wording, and
> they don't care about what song is an A, B, C, F, Z, etc.
> This station works for Columbus' CHR fans. They don't care
> about other non-CC stations streaming from NY, LA, Chicago,
> or even Podunk. WNCI plays the music they want to hear, and
> the DJs entertain them between songs. It has an image and
> feeling that they have made a part of their routine.
> Finally, I didn't cheer for CC at any point. I stated facts:
> WNCI is highly rated, listeners don't have a problem with
> it, and you are on the message board saying that the guys at
> 'NCI can "go you know what themselves" in spite of their
> track record. You don't have to be a CC fan to see that this
> station knows how to win in Columbus.
>

I think the innate nature of a pop music station is probably what grates on some people's nerves. Think about it... they are restricted to a very limited set of music to stay "fresh" and "current" or else they will be criticized for being stale/old/not current. If you listen to WNCI on a Saturday while painting your house, you will hear the same pop song maybe 5 or 6 times in a full day. Other formats can avoid that because their playlist is so much bigger. Ted/Jack formats, you may go an entire day and not hear any repeats. That's appealing to me but definitely not possible in a CHR (imho).

I don't think it's feasible to go up against WNCI though, I don't think it has anything to do with guts. WBNS may have a 20,000 watt transmitter but they just aren't going to be able to compete with a 175,000 watt. (Yes I know height plays into it but bottom line is, it's hard to mess around with a flamethrower like WNCI). I have always maintained if WNCI had similar coverage and power as some of the other stations in the market, they would not be such a consistent powerhouse.

This all being said, no I don't like WNCI, I think they have a hack morning show, they repeat their music too much, the music they do play is not to my liking, etc. So I just don't listen. There is enough on in this market for me to find something else to listen to. Ted serves me well (even though the ratings are dismal and I suspect I may be one of 5 listners that they actually have). Do I wish Ted was on a signal equivalent to WNCI? Heck yea but WNCI serves their market well and I can't criticize their success. Opinions are completely different than actual fact.

I think WNCI has a pretty big bullseye on it's back from being the best (in ratings mind you). I am willing to wager they don't mind the criticism because that must mean they are doing something right. Everyone attacks the #1 station.
 
If you go to the FCC's website, or any of the others, and pull up WNCI, and compare it to WBNS, WLVQ, WCOL, WBZX, WSNY, they all have nearly the same coverage. A 22kW non-directional station at 1,000 feet is going to have nearly the same coverage area of a 175kW directional station at 500 feet (yes WNCI is directional).

All of the following is there 54dBu service contour, and all very comperable to each other. I am not including WLZT because their tower is south of all of these, so they have more southern coverage than the others...

WNCI: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM296463.html

WBNS-FM: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM75691.html

WSNY: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM78811.html

WLVQ: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM55704.html

WCOL-FM: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM132098.html

WBZX: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM120739.html



>
> I don't think it's feasible to go up against WNCI though, I
> don't think it has anything to do with guts. WBNS may have
> a 20,000 watt transmitter but they just aren't going to be
> able to compete with a 175,000 watt. (Yes I know height
> plays into it but bottom line is, it's hard to mess around
> with a flamethrower like WNCI). I have always maintained if
> WNCI had similar coverage and power as some of the other
> stations in the market, they would not be such a consistent
> powerhouse.
>
 
How is WNCI directional and who do they protect? In all the traveling I've done around Ohio, I can't remember their signal being noticeably poorer in any particular direction than another. In fact, they're usually the last Columbus station you hear driving away from the city. And the pattern on the map has no discernable directional qualities, except for those small bumps near Marion and Chillicothe.

> If you go to the FCC's website, or any of the others, and
> pull up WNCI, and compare it to WBNS, WLVQ, WCOL, WBZX,
> WSNY, they all have nearly the same coverage. A 22kW
> non-directional station at 1,000 feet is going to have
> nearly the same coverage area of a 175kW directional station
> at 500 feet (yes WNCI is directional).
>
> All of the following is there 54dBu service contour, and all
> very comperable to each other. I am not including WLZT
> because their tower is south of all of these, so they have
> more southern coverage than the others...
>
> WNCI:
> http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM296463.html
>
>
> WBNS-FM:
> http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM75691.html
>
> WSNY:
> http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM78811.html
>
> WLVQ:
> http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM55704.html
>
> WCOL-FM:
> http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM132098.html
>
>
> WBZX:
> http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM120739.html
>
>
>
>
> >
> > I don't think it's feasible to go up against WNCI though,
> I
> > don't think it has anything to do with guts. WBNS may
> have
> > a 20,000 watt transmitter but they just aren't going to be
>
> > able to compete with a 175,000 watt. (Yes I know height
> > plays into it but bottom line is, it's hard to mess around
>
> > with a flamethrower like WNCI). I have always maintained
> if
> > WNCI had similar coverage and power as some of the other
> > stations in the market, they would not be such a
> consistent
> > powerhouse.
> >
>
 
> if you want to listen to a decent CHR....travel north a
> little bit and tune in to mix 94.3.....they do a pretty good
> job with the limited resources cheap channel provides them.
> >
>

That's a Hot AC/Mix format, not a CHR. That's like Mix 94.1 in Cincy, Mix 107.7 in Dayton, etc. There are probably more Mix format stations than Kiss' within CC.
 
Agreed. 175,000 watts is the most I've ever heard of, even for a class C. That signal should cover most of the state, especially with the relatively flat terrain of Central Ohio. It doesn't though. It should make it right up into Cleveland in Toledo to Detroit and over to Indiana. It actually has no better coverage than all the other class B's like BNS,BZX,COL or SNY. Height (HAAT) matter a lot more than most think. This station reaches at least as far as the fringe.

Example:

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?
call=wmxy&x=10&y=3&is_unl=Y&is_lic=Y&is_cp=Y&sr=Y&s=C&sid=

Also, with 50,000 watts, why does WCLT bareley make it West f 71? They need to raise it up a couple hundred feet and drop a few thousand watts.

If you go to the FCC's website, or any of the others, and
> pull up WNCI, and compare it to WBNS, WLVQ, WCOL, WBZX,
> WSNY, they all have nearly the same coverage. A 22kW
> non-directional station at 1,000 feet is going to have
> nearly the same coverage area of a 175kW directional station
> at 500 feet (yes WNCI is directional).
>
> All of the following is there 54dBu service contour, and all
> very comperable to each other. I am not including WLZT
> because their tower is south of all of these, so they have
> more southern coverage than the others...
>
> WNCI:
> http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM296463.html
>
>
> WBNS-FM:
> http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM75691.html
>
> WSNY:
> http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM78811.html
>
> WLVQ:
> http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM55704.html
>
> WCOL-FM:
> http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM132098.html
>
>
> WBZX:
> http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM120739.html
>
>
>
>
> >
> > I don't think it's feasible to go up against WNCI though,
> I
> > don't think it has anything to do with guts. WBNS may
> have
> > a 20,000 watt transmitter but they just aren't going to be
>
> > able to compete with a 175,000 watt. (Yes I know height
> > plays into it but bottom line is, it's hard to mess around
>
> > with a flamethrower like WNCI). I have always maintained
> if
> > WNCI had similar coverage and power as some of the other
> > stations in the market, they would not be such a
> consistent
> > powerhouse.
> >
>
 
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