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WND: Rhodes urges poor to loot

Re: FEMA's disastrous failure

> Hey all you amateur radio operators, remember the good old
> days when FEMA

>
> Very Sincerely, K5ZN, Santa Fe
>
But you're overlooking all the good the current FCC is doing for us. They are now considering to do away with CW testing. I say open it up so that we can give CB another chance good buddy. Seriously, as someone who holds an extra, this is all too obviously the wrong move but who cares about human livfe.
 
Re: FEMA's disastrous failure

> But you're overlooking all the good the current FCC is doing
> for us. They are now considering to do away with CW testing.
> I say open it up so that we can give CB another chance good
> buddy. Seriously, as someone who holds an extra, this is all
> too obviously the wrong move but who cares about human
> livfe.


I probably misunderstand but I just can't see what Morse Code
has to do with saving human lives. Of course it might help
the continuing demise of ham radio, clearing a whole lot of
unused bandwidth for government purposes.

Look around. Go to an amateur radio club meeting in 'most any
city. I'm enjoying Social Security and I was a mere child
compared with those at the last California meeting I attended.

The hobby is dying.

Younger people are not getting involved.

No, I don't think doing away with the code requirement
is going to bring about a boom in amateur radio but it might
encourage a few younger people to at least try. After all,
how many 85-year olds are willing to walk into a disaster
to try to set up communications? How many might survive it?

Having a nice pure set of rules is pretty ineffective when
we old-timers are setting out on our dirt-naps and there's
nobody to replace us.

KL0OG
<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: WorldNetDaily Lies Again

> Further, Randi Rhodes did not advocate the assassination of
> President Bush. One of her producers did a bit parodying
> Charlton Heston-type elderly people being threatened with
> having their social security taken away and they brought out
> the guns. It wasn't funny, she apologized for it.

You're wrong on this one. Randi did a bit several months ago where she parodied the scene in Godfather II where Michael Corleone takes Fredo Corleone out in a boat and wacks him.

Randi said "Like Fredo, somebody ought to take him (Bush)out fishing and phuw. "

I think that she apoligized for this one.
 
> > BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT, wrong again. Had the STATE and
> > LOCAL governement done their jobs the looting could have
> > been limited.
>
> If you would listen to more than FOX and read more and check
> out the video and reports offered during the NOLA
> debacle...you would see that blame cannot be heaped on
> Blanco and Nagin....despite their being Democrats (GASP).
> Again look and learn...and believe your "lying eyes".
>
> I posted a letter from Blanco in the off the air section
> that I think shows that a lot of effort was being put in to
> prepare the state but she didnt note that she had to work
> with Nagin on the counterflow evacuaton which directed all
> resources to have traffic lanes north and south pointed
> north,...this was a huge effort which helped speed 1 million
> people to safety....but im sure you wont see that on FOX.
> >
>


Funny, I listen to a broad range of sources. Thank you for steroetyping me. But I guess that is the easy way out for you.
 
> > > > Randi Rhodes is no great radio talent. But it is a
> > stretch
> > >
> > > > to say that she "advocated the assassination of
> > President
> > > > Bush." What she did, is air a skit which made a joke
> of
> > > it.
> > > > She later apologized profusely to the great annoyance
> of
> >
> > > > many of her fans.
> > > >
> > > > Any "entertainment" value in joking about looting is
> > > > similarly lost on me.
> > > >
> > > > Besides, it's Bush's fault.
> > > >
> > > Anyone who actually heard Randi's show at the time will
> > know
> > > that this is a blast at the Bush administration for
> > failing
> > > to deliver much needed services and aid to the people of
>
> > New
> > > Orleans. In desperate times people do desperate things.
> > All
> > > our fearless president can do is preach about how he (by
>
> > > proxy) will shoot to kill people stealing bread and
> > medicine
> > > just to survive. As with all things, there are a few bad
>
> > > apples taking advantage of the situation- that is wrong-
>
> > but
> > > it has to be stated that the fact that the President
> > thinks
> > > that is the biggest problem in New Orleans is yet
> another
> > > example of how this administration doesn't give a damn.
> > Had
> > > FEMA, the Department of Homeland Security, and The Bush
> > > Adminstration done its Job right than I would be happy
> to
> > > say looting must be stopped. Until then- save me your
> > > compassionate conservativism, we have bigger problems to
>
> > > deal with.
> > >
> >
> > BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT, wrong again. Had the STATE and
> > LOCAL governement done their jobs the looting could have
> > been limited.
>
> The Local and state government did do their jobs. I saw them
> on TV on Sunday Evacuating the city. They declared states of
> emergency. Both of them, together. The governor sent a
> letter for help to the president on Aug 28th. Follow the
> timeline, it is posted in "off the air". This was a
> incredible failure of the Adminstation and Homeland
> security. Blaming the almost Third-World state of LA with a
> 27% poverty rate and a coastal area where 50% of the
> children live in poverty for not being able to handle a
> category 4 hurricane and its aftermath is disgusting.
>
> >
> > And Bush did NOT say anything about shooting people (nice
> > try though). It was the Governor that said that.
>
> Bush said Zero-Tolerance. What does that mean, exactly? I'll
> tell you what that means- extra judical executions
> sanctioned by the government. So much for the rule of law.
>
> >
> > Please get your facts straight.
> >
> > And save me from your ill-informed politcal rants, we have
>
> > bigger problems to deal with.
> >
> > Can we move away from the political rants and help these
> > people? What have personally done to help? Anything? I
> > have helped pack 3 semis full of clothes, food, baby
> > supplies and water. We have 5 move coming next week.
> >
>
> Don't you pay taxes? Shouldn't our government be doing this?
> We are rebuilding Baghdad aren't we? Don't we have adequate
> guard and reserve? What's the problem? The cost of
> Rebuilding New Orleans will be a fraction of that to Rebuild
> Iraq. The government wastes my money abroad then tells me to
> give at home? The US government has more than enough money
> and resources to have had this situation under control days
> ago. They cut taxes didn't they? You are wasting your money,
> the government doesn't care about these people. Every penny
> you give will be one less from the US Govermnment and
> another penny to corporate carpetbaggers (Halliburton is
> already on its way in to NO).
>


Amazing, your politics just never stop. I ask, what have YOU done to help?
 
Imagine if....

> Amazing, your politics just never stop. I ask, what have
> YOU done to help?

Amazing coincidence!

Just last Spring I sold my collection of Confederate money, having
given up on the south rising again.

But imagine if The Confederacy had won the civil war! Would they
not have their own president to blame for everything? Would the north
send aid...or would the bitterness remain such that there would be
no aid? Would The Confederacy try to blame the disaster on a vast
Northern Conspiracy? How that would be different from "today"?

What entity would exist to regulate broadcasting in The Confederacy?
Would it be the "CCC" (Confederate Communications Commission)? Given
that countries that have broken away from larger ones tend to try to
do the exact opposite of what the "parent" did, how might broadcasting
be regimented differently than in the north? Might there be a BBC-
like nationalized broadcast system? Can't call it The CBC...that's
already taken. But maybe it would have been set up before the one
in Canada. Then what would Canada call it's partially socialized
system?<P ID="signature">______________
I once took something seriously.
And was accused of shoplifting.</P>
 
Re: A better approach to looting

> Individual looters generally fall into two categories:
>
> Those who feel driven to looting in order to obtain food and
> water for themselves or their families when the stores are
> closed and they have no access to money or credit.
>
> Those who would grab any opportunity to loot regardless of
> need. They just feel they have license to do it more
> openly.
>
> Both are only moderately effective.
>
> A more beneficial approach would be for government to take
> on the task.
>
> Here's how:
>
> A "temporary" 100% tax on all earned and unearned income.
> If the bucks come in to anyone they need to be confiscated
> and given to those most in need in the form of tangibles
> like housing, food, water, sanitation, health care.
> Definitely not in the form of money. Would be no point
> since it would constitute income and be subject to the
> universal 100% "temporary" tax.

Please erase this posting immediately, before you give the junior senator from NY and the senior senator from Mass any ideas!

73s from 954<P ID="signature">______________
Guest Deejay on WFUN, 1971</P>
 
Re: WorldNetDaily Lies Again

> Randi said "Like Fredo, somebody ought to take him (Bush)out
> fishing and phuw. "
>
> I think that she apoligized for this one.

I listen to Randi every day. I know what she has said and done. The Fredo bit is not the one she apologized for. The issue she apologized for was the bit produced in NY which went on her air while she was hosting from W Palm Beach. She never previews the produced bits because she likes to hear them for the first time with the audience. Reread the right wing news sources to be fully versed on the art of making a mountain out of a molehill.

BTW, WND completely took the bit Randi did on looting out of context - imagine that. She was just finished describing people taking whatever they could find to survive - food, tents, supplies, when she mentioned the quality of the goods looted. Her position was that Wal-Mart should throw open the doors of their ruined stores anyway and let people take what they want to cope - a gift to America from Wal-Mart.
 
And just where....

> Please erase this posting immediately, before you give the
> junior senator from NY and the senior senator from Mass any
> ideas!

And just where in hell do you think I got the idea? You flatter
me by accusing me of being that creative! I'm just a cynical
observer with a touch of masochistic realist along the for the ride.<P ID="signature">______________
I once took something seriously.
And was accused of shoplifting.</P>
 
Re: Imagine if....

> What entity would exist to regulate broadcasting in The
> Confederacy?
> Would it be the "CCC" (Confederate Communications
> Commission)? Given
> that countries that have broken away from larger ones tend
> to try to
> do the exact opposite of what the "parent" did, how might
> broadcasting
> be regimented differently than in the north? Might there be
> a BBC-
> like nationalized broadcast system? Can't call it The
> CBC...that's
> already taken. But maybe it would have been set up before
> the one
> in Canada. Then what would Canada call it's partially
> socialized
> system?
>

There would be 11 separate state broadcasting commissions, each with their own levels of regulation. It would, after all, be a confederacy and the primary point of the governmental system was to preserve state rights.

That said, I doubt Stern would be crossing the border and broadcasting from Richmond or Nashville to avoid FCC regulations.
 
Good point!

> There would be 11 separate state broadcasting commissions,
> each with their own levels of regulation. It would, after
> all, be a confederacy and the primary point of the
> governmental system was to preserve state rights.
>
> That said, I doubt Stern would be crossing the border and
> broadcasting from Richmond or Nashville to avoid FCC
> regulations.


I wonder if the principles of confederacy would have stood very long or whether there would have been a move toward centralization if only for ease of commerce.
That said, if we accept the premise of 11 state broadcasting commissions, one must wonder in which "states" Stern would be heard.

For example, if the New Orleans we knew pre-hurricane, had enough votes to outweigh the rest of Louisiana, might Stern be welcomed with open arms
(They didn't call it "The Big Easy" just 'cause it sounds good)? Are there other among those 11 where he and others like him might be tolerated?

Would a true confederacy and those 11 SBC's (no, damn it, not the phone
company, the state broadcasting commissions) be welcoming to broadcasters
whose signals crossed political lines? Especially if there were widely
divergent views on religion...what constitutes obscenity, etc?

OK, not a very productive line of thought, being all speculation, but
at least as productive as all the ongoing finger-pointing. Besides,
it's at least an amusing alternative to hate-mongering diatribes!
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And was accused of shoplifting.</P>
 
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