WNKO MOVE-IN

[daypart]

A shame, indeed. Is it now the unpardonable sin for radio to serve the community (especially outside the metro areas)?

The business of radio is selling audiences to advertisers. It's no surprise that stations move to where there are larger audiences and more advertisers.

It's unfortunate for the smaller Licking County community to lose a news media outlet to the larger Franklin County community. Especially in an era where newspapers are having trouble making payroll. If The Advocate folds its tent, WCLT becomes the biggest news operation in a county of 150,000 folks. The question is whether the WNKO move will make it the only news operation in the county.

The Advocate's not going anywhere, unless you know something I don't. I worked there for several years and still have many friends in the newsroom. There's no discussion of this at all.

Don't want to drag this thread too far off-topic, but when I was in Newark last week, there was an issue of the Advocate that had 8 pages! That's 4 double-sided pages of newsprint! When I picked it up, it felt like a pamphlet. This wasn't a holiday week when there should have been skeleton staffing and that's not a sign of a healthy media outlet.

Look at the trends in local newspapers around the country - many are reducing the number of days per week they publish or closing up shop entirely. Your friends at The Advocate ignore these larger trends and the writing on the wall signified by that 8-page publication at their peril.

The loss of WNKO to Columbus means one less news outlet in the 14th largest city in Ohio.

 

[gabigley1]

Does anyone know when WNKO will build and/or move it's transmitter/tower to New Albany? Seems like this thing has been in the works for some time now...

They get clearance to pick up and move once 101.7 in Urbana moves to 101.5 Enon! That should be happening by the beginning of next year at the latest.

The speculation on this radio-info thread is the move of 101.7 from Urbana to 101.5 Enon is going to happen soon. Click here for more:

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,156653.0.html

 

[schmave]

A shame, indeed. Is it now the unpardonable sin for radio to serve the community (especially outside the metro areas)?

The business of radio is selling audiences to advertisers. It's no surprise that stations move to where there are larger audiences and more advertisers.

It's unfortunate for the smaller Licking County community to lose a news media outlet to the larger Franklin County community. Especially in an era where newspapers are having trouble making payroll. If The Advocate folds its tent, WCLT becomes the biggest news operation in a county of 150,000 folks. The question is whether the WNKO move will make it the only news operation in the county.

The Advocate's not going anywhere, unless you know something I don't. I worked there for several years and still have many friends in the newsroom. There's no discussion of this at all.

Don't want to drag this thread too far off-topic, but when I was in Newark last week, there was an issue of the Advocate that had 8 pages! That's 4 double-sided pages of newsprint! When I picked it up, it felt like a pamphlet. This wasn't a holiday week when there should have been skeleton staffing and that's not a sign of a healthy media outlet.

Look at the trends in local newspapers around the country - many are reducing the number of days per week they publish or closing up shop entirely. Your friends at The Advocate ignore these larger trends and the writing on the wall signified by that 8-page publication at their peril.

The loss of WNKO to Columbus means one less news outlet in the 14th largest city in Ohio.

Duly noted. But the smaller editions are not the fault of The Advocate, but rather of parent company Gannett which is being fiscally conservative (probably one of the nicer things said about them!) with smaller editions. The reporters, who are the friends I mentioned, are not responsible for it.
Nonetheless, based on the post above it looks like the move of WNKO is one step closer to happening, though probably not for a little while yet. Yuck.

 

[gr8oldies]

Give the Pricers credit for keeping T100 in town. It could have been a move in years ago.

 

[Nu_Roo_2]

At least there will be no need for NKO format guessing games.  The local regulations require Country.  Besides, we all know that the new city of license, New Albany, is a classic model of the Country lifestyle.

 

[schmave]

Give the Pricers credit for keeping T100 in town. It could have been a move in years ago.

With their signal, though, it doesn't have to be. I bet a good number of people in Columbus listen to it never knowing it transmits from Newark.

 

[xmusicmatt]

Give the Pricers credit for keeping T100 in town. It could have been a move in years ago.

With their signal, though, it doesn't have to be. I bet a good number of people in Columbus listen to it never knowing it transmits from Newark.

Considerng WCLT shows up in the book for as long as I can remember..a lot of people in the Columbus area do listen to it.

 

[mikenci]

This move is not going to happen any time soon. They are proposing to use WCVOs tower which is NOT going to be there much longer...(MAYBE) WCVO was advanced monies against the pending sale of the transmitter property to Les Wexner. You know the guy...Who does not like looking out his window to see a 400' Lighted Cross in his Back Yard. WCVO's tower was suppose to be gone by now. They Blew through four million dollars of the nine million Wexner was paying. They Bought their new studio Building on Johnstown Road and the famous Atlatnta Georgia AM Sataions that are now silent. Every Attempt to relocate the tower has been turned down by local zoning boards. Wexners financial guy who fronted half the money was the Famous (NOW IN JAIL) Jeffery Epstein. Wexners New adviser told CVO to pound salt when they came for another advance to buy WRFD. Some gall when the tower the money was suppose to eliminate is still there. He also told them if the tower is not down by the end of December that the deal is OFF and they want their money back that they advanced or see you in court. So it would appear that Salem maybe buying WCVO instead of selling WRFD. And by the way....They could not take the tower down anyway because they have a lease with Verizon Wireless that runs through 2025 and they need the coverage from that location because there is no suitable replacement site in New Albany. And if thats not bad enough the exsisting tower will not support any additional antennas. So good luck WNKO finding a suitable site. Oh what a tangled web we weave.

 

[Allfirdup]

This move is not going to happen any time soon. They are proposing to use WCVOs tower which is NOT going to be there much longer...(MAYBE) WCVO was advanced monies against the pending sale of the transmitter property to Les Wexner. You know the guy...Who does not like looking out his window to see a 400' Lighted Cross in his Back Yard. WCVO's tower was suppose to be gone by now. They Blew through four million dollars of the nine million Wexner was paying. They Bought their new studio Building on Johnstown Road and the famous Atlatnta Georgia AM Sataions that are now silent. Every Attempt to relocate the tower has been turned down by local zoning boards. Wexners financial guy who fronted half the money was the Famous (NOW IN JAIL) Jeffery Epstein. Wexners New adviser told CVO to pound salt when they came for another advance to buy WRFD. Some gall when the tower the money was suppose to eliminate is still there. He also told them if the tower is not down by the end of December that the deal is OFF and they want their money back that they advanced or see you in court. So it would appear that Salem maybe buying WCVO instead of selling WRFD. And by the way....They could not take the tower down anyway because they have a lease with Verizon Wireless that runs through 2025 and they need the coverage from that location because there is no suitable replacement site in New Albany. And if thats not bad enough the exsisting tower will not support any additional antennas. So good luck WNKO finding a suitable site. Oh what a tangled web we weave.

just to correct things, WCVO received permission to move the transmitter off of north hamilton Rd, to an existing cell tower, and when i drove by it a few days ago it looks as if the modifications to the tower have begun so moving before the end of the year should happen. any deal with verizon would transfer to the new owenr and be their obligation to work out a suitable deal with Verizon. as far as WNKO the CP will stay open and they just need to file for a new location, they can not move until WSKW moves to 101.5 in Enon from 101.7 in Urbana anyway.

 

[gabigley1]

just to correct things, WCVO received permission to move the transmitter off of north hamilton Rd, to an existing cell tower, and when i drove by it a few days ago it looks as if the modifications to the tower have begun so moving before the end of the year should happen. any deal with verizon would transfer to the new owenr and be their obligation to work out a suitable deal with Verizon. as far as WNKO the CP will stay open and they just need to file for a new location, they can not move until WSKW moves to 101.5 in Enon from 101.7 in Urbana anyway.

Yes, it looks like the WNKO move-in won't happen anytime soon because of the headaches and delays in finding a new tower site for WNKO.

 

[gabigley1]

This move is not going to happen any time soon. They are proposing to use WCVOs tower which is NOT going to be there much longer...(MAYBE) WCVO was advanced monies against the pending sale of the transmitter property to Les Wexner. You know the guy...Who does not like looking out his window to see a 400' Lighted Cross in his Back Yard. WCVO's tower was suppose to be gone by now. They Blew through four million dollars of the nine million Wexner was paying. They Bought their new studio Building on Johnstown Road and the famous Atlatnta Georgia AM Sataions that are now silent. Every Attempt to relocate the tower has been turned down by local zoning boards. Wexners financial guy who fronted half the money was the Famous (NOW IN JAIL) Jeffery Epstein. Wexners New adviser told CVO to pound salt when they came for another advance to buy WRFD. Some gall when the tower the money was suppose to eliminate is still there. He also told them if the tower is not down by the end of December that the deal is OFF and they want their money back that they advanced or see you in court. So it would appear that Salem maybe buying WCVO instead of selling WRFD. And by the way....They could not take the tower down anyway because they have a lease with Verizon Wireless that runs through 2025 and they need the coverage from that location because there is no suitable replacement site in New Albany. And if thats not bad enough the exsisting tower will not support any additional antennas. So good luck WNKO finding a suitable site. Oh what a tangled web we weave.

just to correct things, WCVO received permission to move the transmitter off of north hamilton Rd, to an existing cell tower, and when i drove by it a few days ago it looks as if the modifications to the tower have begun so moving before the end of the year should happen. any deal with verizon would transfer to the new owenr and be their obligation to work out a suitable deal with Verizon. as far as WNKO the CP will stay open and they just need to file for a new location, they can not move until WSKW moves to 101.5 in Enon from 101.7 in Urbana anyway.

Here is the new and old/present tower site for WCVO: http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/info?call=WCVO&service=FM

The proposed new tower site for the the WNKO Columbus move in is the old/present WCVO tower site:

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/info?call=WNKO&service=FM

The NEW WCVO tower site was posted on the radio-locator.com site a week or so ago and that is why I post it here.

So, WNKO will have to look for a tower new tower site because the old WCVO tower site won't be available in the next few months? Is this correct?
Maybe WNKO can move to the NEW WCVO tower site? Other wise, they may run into significance delays in finding a new tower site for
WNKO. It could take years to find a new site if it land up in the courts.

 

[Allfirdup]

So, WNKO will have to look for a tower new tower site because the old WCVO tower site won't be available in the next few months? Is this correct?
Maybe WNKO can move to the NEW WCVO tower site? Other wise, they may run into significance delays in finding a new tower site for
WNKO. It could take years to find a new site if it land up in the courts.

The WCVO tower along with the buildings on the property are to be torn down, i understand by the end of the year. the building has been empty the better part of this year,

WNKO cant really do anything untill WKSW Springfield makes its move to 101.5 and then over to ENON, once that happens then WNKO can make a move, also they still have two years to build that out, and with the economy being what it is i would be in no rush make a move like that.

 

[gabigley1]

So, WNKO will have to look for a tower new tower site because the old WCVO tower site won't be available in the next few months? Is this correct?
Maybe WNKO can move to the NEW WCVO tower site? Other wise, they may run into significance delays in finding a new tower site for
WNKO. It could take years to find a new site if it land up in the courts.

The WCVO tower along with the buildings on the property are to be torn down, i understand by the end of the year. the building has been empty the better part of this year,

WNKO cant really do anything untill WKSW Springfield makes its move to 101.5 and then over to ENON, once that happens then WNKO can make a move, also they still have two years to build that out, and with the economy being what it is i would be in no rush make a move like that.

According to the FCC CP, WNKO was allowed to build the station when the CP was issued. Of course, they can't start programing tests(SEE BELOW) until WKSW dose. It makes no sense to be in a hurry with the economy the way it and that is probably why they are in no hurry to build the station. Also, they have to secure another tower site and that will take time.

This is from the FCC Database and is on the WNKO CP:

2 PROGRAM TESTS FOR WNKO (FACILITY ID# 57936) WILL NOT COMENCE ON CHANNEL
269A WITH THE FACILITIES SPECIFIED HEREIN UNTIL PROGRAM TESTS FOR WKSW
(FACILITY ID# 10113) COMMENCE ON CHANNEL 268A WITH THE FACILITIES
SPECIFIED IN BPH-20070119AGI AND A LICENSE WILL NOT BE GRANTED FOR WNKO
ON CHANNEL 269A WITH THE FACILITIES SPECIFIED HEREIN UNTIL A LICENSE IS
GRANTED FOR WKSW ON CHANNEL 268A WITH THE FACILITIES SPECIFIED IN
BPH-20070119AGI.

 

[Allfirdup]

Yes they are allowed to build, but they can not turn anything on untill WKSW moves, tests and is approved. ok what happens if Maineline which owns WKSW decides not to build out the CP they have. and WNKO would have built out their new facility,

or if WNKO the would have build out the new facility on the WCVO tower and then find out they cant use it because the WKSW move took too long or never happened at all. A smart business would wait for the first move to be completed, then proceed with the second part since there are to separate companies involved, and no contract between them to guarantee the process, that i can find. also looking for a new site really shouldn't be that bad, there are alot of towers already constructed that they can land on, just like WCVO did.

 

[MikeStandardsFromIndiana]

My guess is Mainline is planning on Building out the CP for WKSW Enon at 101.5 since they already changed the COL of WDHT from Springfield to Urbana which was part of the COL/Xmitter Moves to get WKSW to Enon and WNKO to move into Columbus at 101.7

 

[Allfirdup]

WNKO 101.7 move in

WNKO has applied to the FCC to change the CP and upgrade from a class A to Class B1 station at 101.7 FM, the new tower location will be on the WVMX tower along 71 to the north of the city but with an output of 15.5kw at 128.3m, that should be just below the antenna at the top of the tower. This will still require that WKSW complete is move to 101.5 in Enon

 

[gabigley1]

Here is the new CP application they have on file with the FCC:

https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/w...xt=25&appn=101350682&formid=301&fac_num=57936

 

[xmusicmatt]

Looking at the coverage map looks like they will put more signal over columbus with the 107.9 Tower site... They will just loose some of their SE Coverage (Canal Winchester... ) but by putting more signal over Columbus itself they should not hurt to bad.

 

[Nu_Roo_2]

Hope it happens, and that for once a decent new signal doesn't just do a duplicate (or near-duplicate) of what's already here.

As far as filling a potential moneymaking wide hole on a decent signal, oldies-type (not 103.9-type) Classic Hits is the drop-dead obvious choice, especially in the PPM era.  (I'd personally prefer Adult Hits type, but that's less of a sure-thing  -- could turn out to be a huge goldmine like in St. Louis, but could also turn out to be a dud like in some other markets.)  CC has been offering up a big-time "gimme" to a good signal by keeping that format off 93.3, but so far their have been no takers.  Maybe 102.5 would have, had it actually planned to remain a Columbus operator, instead of taking the (yet-to-be-found) money and running.

On a related note, any predictions as to when 102.5 will either be sold, LMA'd or give up and (hopefully) drop Country?

 

[gabigley1]

Re: WNKO 101.7 move in

WNKO has applied to the FCC to change the CP and upgrade from a class A to Class B1 station at 101.7 FM, the new tower location will be on the WVMX tower along 71 to the north of the city but with an output of 15.5kw at 128.3m, that should be just below the antenna at the top of the tower.

Are you sure they have permission to build on the WVMX tower site? Maybe they are asking the FCC if this tower site will work? They may then reapply to build at another tower site in the area if the WVMX tower site
is approved. Don't see why they(WVMX) would want the competition's antenna located on their tower site.

The old site existing tower site, where they presentably have a C.P. for, is being dismantled. WCVO moved
from there and they are going to sell the land to a real estate developer. This is where the present WNKO CP is located:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=40.07111,+-82.80972+(WNKO-FM)&om=1
The above site is not available to them anymore, hence the application for a new CP and tower site relocation.