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WNYZ 87.7 May Need to End Radio Broadcasting by 2012

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Barry

AllAccess is reporting that the F.C.C. is proposing a rule that low power TV broadcasts in analog must end by the beginning of 2012. This would free up a considerable amount of spectrum for other uses.
As WNYZ 87.7 is the audio of a low power TV station, it would no longer be able to function as a radio station if this rule is implemented. While it is no surprise that this would eventually happen, there is now a specific time frame being mentioned by the F.C.C.
The article: http://www.allaccess.com/net-news/a...ptv-analog-shutoff-proposed-for-2012-endanger
 
BiggieFats said:
This has been speculated for a long time. Nothing new here.
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I agree, everyone knew ANALOG LPTV was going away sooner or later, and WNYZ already had a CP to flash cut to digital anyway...so no real news.
 
Tony Santiago said:
Heck, it ended for me on January 2010. :-\

But I've moved on :)
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No you haven't. You're still going on about it. Just like I'm still going on about pop standards on WQEW, country on 103.5, rock on 102.7, compelling news-talk on WABC and the good dance-mix shows on 103.5 and 97.1 from back in the 90s and early 2000s (Glen Friscia et al). :-X
 
StephanieNYC said:
Tony Santiago said:
Heck, it ended for me on January 2010. :-\

But I've moved on :)
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No you haven't. You're still going on about it. Just like I'm still going on about pop standards on WQEW, country on 103.5, rock on 102.7, compelling news-talk on WABC and the good dance-mix shows on 103.5 and 97.1 from back in the 90s and early 2000s (Glen Friscia et al). :-X
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Stephanie, you must be confusing me with someone else here.

Have you looked at any of my recent posts Stephanie?

If I had made ANY mention about 87.7, it may have been about the past. However I don't live there and I'm certainly not talking about it now; quite the opposite actually. Yeah, I want a dance station again in NYC, but not on 87.7 EVEN IF THE FREQUENCY WAS STILL AVAILABLE POST 2012.

There are those that still hold on to Pulse as a memory (although it is an online station). For me, we have to move to the next chapter. Hey, tune in to my show on Sunday (6PM) :) Link below on the siggy...
 
Someone will just start a pirate station on 87.7 in 2012. No I am not wishing for Pulse to be resurrected on a pirate station.

I still wish Blink were still on 102.7, I long for the Magic 98.3 of 2002, I want my old KTU back, and of course you all know my love for what used to be on Channel 6. I accept the fact that none of those stations are coming back.
 
d21ofnj said:
I've heard that line from someone else......
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Yup, Tony said it first, for Party, but I stopped listening to 87.7 for the most part on October 30th at 5. And I think you had started the trend of scrolling a marquee with a big font.

In 2013, mark my words, there will be a pirate station on 87.7.
 
According to the FCC, WNYZ-LP has a construction permit for a low-power digital TV station also on Channel 6.

After the digital channel goes on the air on Channel 6, will a pirate broadcasting on 87.7 or 87.9 interfere with the digital TV signal?

I know that pirates can not use those frequencies (without interfering) if they are in the same area as an analog Channel 6, but what if the TV station is digital on 6?

87.7 was a common frequency used by pirates across the country until the time when the FCC started to license low-power analog stations on Channel 6 in the early 2000's.
 
Yes it will 100% interfere and will only take a call to the FCC to get it shutdown. WNYZ-LP is a licensed broadcast and a pirate interfering with them is one thing the FCC will actually take swift action on.
 
Yeah, right. FCC shutdown. I know how well that worked when we had one on frequency at a station I was at. And tell that to every broadcaster in Boston too.

The FCC is useless as t**s on a bull when it comes to pirates. They're too busy selling off portions of the old TV specturm.
 
Yes it will 100% interfere and will only take a call to the FCC to get it shutdown. WNYZ-LP is a licensed broadcast and a pirate interfering with them is one thing the FCC will actually take swift action on.
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Are you sure that digital Channel 6 uses the same part of the spectrum as analog 87.7 FM?


I recall around a year ago that Channel 6, WRGB Schenectady was broadcasting for a while a digital TV signal (video and audio) on Channel 6, but at the same time the station was broadcasting an analog audio signal "at one edge of its digital TV allocation using vertical polarization".

Apparently this was not causing interference, but the FCC disallowed it. I think the reason was that the station no longer had a license to broadcast in analog.

Like I said, 87.7 was often used across the country by pirates because the frequency was available and nothing was interfered with. But when new low-power analog TV stations on Channel 6 started popping-up everywhere in the early 2000's, the pirates went away.

I was hoping that 87.7 could be used again, in the same area as a digital Channel 6 TV station.
 
avtosalon said:
Are you sure that digital Channel 6 uses the same part of the spectrum as analog 87.7 FM?


I recall around a year ago that Channel 6, WRGB Schenectady was broadcasting for a while a digital TV signal (video and audio) on Channel 6, but at the same time the station was broadcasting an analog audio signal "at one edge of its digital TV allocation using vertical polarization".

Apparently this was not causing interference, but the FCC disallowed it. I think the reason was that the station no longer had a license to broadcast in analog.
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I find it hard to believe the WRGB operation would have worked. The DTV signal occupies the entire 82-88MHz channel. (there's a pretty strict emission mask to keep it within that channel) I've not heard from any reliable source one way or the other. (unless Scott F. said something I've forgotten...)

Using vertical polarization could *in theory* prevent interference -- however, most viewers' antennas are not oriented properly to take advantage of that attenuation.

I was hoping that 87.7 could be used again, in the same area as a digital Channel 6 TV station.
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Not likely to happen, at least not legally and not without interfering with the TV operation.
 
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