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Wondering why Rihanna's Cal. King Bed flopped

atlantaboy said:
CHRles said:
"California King Bed" is a nice song. It prolly didn't do as well as expected b/c it was competing with so many other strong Pop records, and CHR radio LOVES mass-appeal UPTEMPO ones.

It had nothing to do with the fact that it wasn't uptempo (Perfect by Pink had no problem hitting #1) - it just got poor callout/low sales from the time it was released

And BTW agree with BRH that Moves Like Jagger is terrible - if Adam Levine hadn't been on The Voice, how many stations would be playing it, and how many people would be downloading it?

Moves Like Jagger is calling out very well - and getting high favorites across the board from 12-34
 
"Cheers" seems like a more appropriate single for the summer months- its lyrics suggest a feel good summer song. Never discount the seasonality of hits- summer is a great time to release upbeat songs and songs about drinking and partying. Its more of a natural fit, than in the doldrums of winter.
 
Adam Rivers said:
atlantaboy said:
CHRles said:
"California King Bed" is a nice song. It prolly didn't do as well as expected b/c it was competing with so many other strong Pop records, and CHR radio LOVES mass-appeal UPTEMPO ones.

It had nothing to do with the fact that it wasn't uptempo (Perfect by Pink had no problem hitting #1) - it just got poor callout/low sales from the time it was released

And BTW agree with BRH that Moves Like Jagger is terrible - if Adam Levine hadn't been on The Voice, how many stations would be playing it, and how many people would be downloading it?

Moves Like Jagger is calling out very well - and getting high favorites across the board from 12-34

Do you think the callout would be as high if Adam Levine hadn't been on The Voice, and it had been just another Maroon 5 single?

Back in 1998, My Heart Will Go On by Celine Dion had a pretty slow first couple weeks, and then the week Titanic hit theaters it began rocketing to #1 - IMO media familiarity can definitely affect callout
 
I'm honestly not sure how much, if at all - the Voice has played into the record's success -- I haven't heard one listener mention that as to why they like that song - and "Never Gonna Leave This Bed" was released during the season and didn't too much -- calling out average with very low favorite scores across the board
 
Adam Rivers said:
"Never Gonna Leave This Bed" was released during the season and didn't too much -- calling out average with very low favorite scores across the board

He never promoted it on air though (or remixed it with Christina Aguilera) - big difference, especially because Clear Channel was so resistant to add it, so most of the 18-34 audience never even heard the song - half the panel never even touched it, and callout scores aren't valid on a song which nationally has such low familiarity
 
As mentioned before, it was top 10 in the UK (then again I know a guy who constantly reminds his audience that ANYTHING can hit big in the UK). I'm not sure the song is DOA yet, it might see a late fall comeback. Heck The Band Perry already charted with "If I Die Young" and now it's back again and is peaking higher than before with each chart (currently at #14 Billboard Hot 100).

Or maybe the king bed is just full of bed bugs. :-\
 
DJKraze said:
Heck The Band Perry already charted with "If I Die Young" and now it's back again and is peaking higher than before with each chart (currently at #14 Billboard Hot 100).

That's only on the Hot 100 though, cause its first chart run was due to country airplay/related sales

This is its first run on CHR
 
atlantaboy said:
DJKraze said:
Heck The Band Perry already charted with "If I Die Young" and now it's back again and is peaking higher than before with each chart (currently at #14 Billboard Hot 100).

That's only on the Hot 100 though, cause its first chart run was due to country airplay/related sales

This is its first run on CHR

Yeah, I show it having run as high as #21 last year on Billboard's Hot 100, I was running it as a Pop record at the time.
 
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