Woody Nelson Scam?

[Bengalsfan]

What's the lag time between when something is filed on M Street and the time it is posted on line for public access, does anyone have any idea?

Day or two at the most. The FCC has gotten much better at updating their database. I filed for program test on a directional FM I built, two days later the approval was in the database and I made a beeline to the transmitter site to crank up the power!

 

[level42]

The station is not visible from any public road, it's set way back down a long private drive...so, no I haven't been back there. I can say that the tower has been dark for about 3 or 4 years now...

I live near the station...I can confirm that there is nothing on the air, but I'll keep my ears open.

Have you been to the site to see if the ground system has been replaced? That would be pretty obvious.

 

[kenglish]

Cabo Wabo is a brand/trademark for rocker Sammy Hagar, formerly of Van Halen and now with a new band called Chickenfoot.
He has a brand of tequila called Cabo Wabo, as well as several nightclubs and restaurants under that name.

The radio station was (IIRC) web-based, operating from his restaurant in Mexico. It lasted a year or two, before going on "hiatus".

 

[Sheriff Andy]

Cabo Wabo is a brand/trademark for rocker Sammy Hagar, formerly of Van Halen and now with a new band called Chickenfoot.
He has a brand of tequila called Cabo Wabo, as well as several nightclubs and restaurants under that name.

The radio station was (IIRC) web-based, operating from his restaurant in Mexico. It lasted a year or two, before going on "hiatus".

So, this Cabo Wabo Radio was simply an internet deal? From a bar? Wow, shades of Brian Austin Green spinning tunes at the Peach Pit/After Dark on "Beverly Hills 90210"!!
Well, at least someone's heard of this.
But still no one's ever worked with Steven Blood much less knows anyone who's worked with him as far as I can tell...
And Sammy's tequila is whole lot better than that crap he calls music.

 

[Bengalsfan]

Cabo Wabo is a brand/trademark for rocker Sammy Hagar,

Then might Hagar be interested that Woody is co-opting his trademark? Much in the way that Gaylord would not like Woody calling his venture "Grand Ole Opry Radio".

 

[taylorengineer]

I'm not sure about the rules regarding "a return to operations." How long must a station operate to be considered "back on the air?" A few hours.....days....weeks?
Can WSBX return to the air for several hours/days/weeks and then refile for a silent STA?
And how would yet another silent STA affect license renewal?

 

[Witchlover]

I'm just speculating, but I think WSBX would have to show extraordinary circumstances to qualify for a special-case exception to the FCC rules, such as severe hurricane damage or something of the sort. I think any decision on license renewal would hinge on whether Commission staff find that WSBX has made a good-faith effort to resume operations, and failed for reasons beyond their control; and that there is a realistic expectation that the station will return to service within a reasonable time. The station has been dark for many months, and the FCC might find that WSBX has run the string and that there is no hope of it returning to the air; and the Commission will vacate the license. Perhaps the best the station could hope for would be a limited renewal with the stipulation that full operation must resume within a set period or the license will be vacated. I'm only a layman, albeit a studied layman, but I cannot see the FCC tolerating the current situation indefinitely.

 

[Witchlover]

Day or two at the most. The FCC has gotten much better at updating their database. I filed for program test on a directional FM I built, two days later the approval was in the database and I made a beeline to the transmitter site to crank up the power!

So if something occurred to make the September 1 date in that filing no longer possible, there has been ample time for the FCC to have been informed and for the filing to be on-line. OK, now this question, please: I know the FCC prefers electronic filings, but doesn't someone have to actually sign a paper statement attesting to the truth and accuracy of the filing? Or to be concise, whose butt is on the line if the Commission thinks that somebody is being ... less than frank ... in those filings?

 

[Sheriff Andy]

WSBX is a thing of the past.
No way will the FCC do anything over and beyond normal to "assist" anyone who's been convicted of fraud. And not just any fraud, but one perpetuated via an online radio "station".
Hopefully, this will be another instance of cold reality for Steven W. Blood, Doreen Blood, Carol Cocke, Veronica Tyler, Woody Nelson, Jack Hammer, etc. All creeps, obviously.
The final nail in the coffin is that the FCC has received many emails regarding the lying and fraudulent saga of these deadbeats and will not grant any favors to anyone in this bunch.
Too bad auto sales are down, as Steven could probably put his skills to use selling cars. Oh, well, there's alway aluminum siding sales!

 

[taylorengineer]

Better watch your words here Sheriff! I don't think Woody has been tried, or convicted of criminal fraud. That is a felony and our Woodrow would be selling soap whistles in the prison shower had he been convicted of that. The Missouri action was civil only.
There are plenty of shady people who own radio stations. If we got rid of all the owners who are/were snake oil salesmen we would have very few stations left.
I, for one, miss our daily Woody drama. I hope we don't have to wait too much longer for new episodes........
BTW....go to Youtube and listen to the Opie and Anthony show where they interview Woody.
I would (almost) pay for this.....

 

[Sheriff Andy]

go to Youtube and listen to the Opie and Anthony show where they interview Woody.
I would (almost) pay for this.....

What exactly is meant by "ramoning"?
They obviously knew this guy was full of it, I guess. He certainly got pretty quiet when it dawned on him that they were all over his phony crap-o-la.

 

[jmtillery]

I'm not sure about the rules regarding "a return to operations." How long must a station operate to be considered "back on the air?" A few hours.....days....weeks?
Can WSBX return to the air for several hours/days/weeks and then refile for a silent STA?
And how would yet another silent STA affect license renewal?

A station may go silent again after a few days operations (normaly 48-hours although this is not specifically specified in the rules). STA's are granted for any number of justifiable reasons such as circumstances beyond the licesee's control which is preventing normal operations. WSBX may return to the air under an STA to operate at reduced power such as 100-watts if that is what it takes to get the station back on the air. This is consistent with being within the public interest as outlined by the FCC.

As for how a license renewal may be affected, the FCC may determine it is not in the public interest to renew the license if the station was off the air simply because the licensee did not want to operate the station according to the terms and specifications of the license authorization. As for whom's metaphoric posterior is in the proverbial sling for any alledged wrongdoing, that falls solely with the licensee. In the case of a corporate licensee, then it falls on the officers and directors of the corporation as trustees of the license.

In any event, if the license is silent for 12-consecutive months, regardless why the license was silent, justifiable or not, by act of Congress, the license becomes null and void and cannot be reactivated. The FCC has no control over license renewal at that point.

 

[jmtillery]

go to Youtube and listen to the Opie and Anthony show where they interview Woody.
I would (almost) pay for this.....

What exactly is meant by "ramoning"?
They obviously knew this guy was full of it, I guess. He certainly got pretty quiet when it dawned on him that they were all over his phony crap-o-la.

Can you provide the link to the Youtube video? I am unable to locate it.

 

[Witchlover]

Also, Sheriff, you must bear in mind that the licensee of WSBX has been neither charged, tried nor convicted of any criminal wrongdoing. Woody might have a license to drive a car, but he is not the licensee of WSBX.

 

[tomservo]

Can you provide the link to the Youtube video? I am unable to locate it.

http://youtu.be/DugiVzmGS2Y

What exactly is meant by "ramoning"?

It goes back to a bunch of promos from years ago involving a man and his "butler", Ramon and all the nasty things Ramon had to do to make his master happy. Yeah, I guess you had to be there.

Anyway, whenever O&A got a really lame call or interview, they'd start getting calls (usually from Jim Norton in another room) mocking the promo and saying very embarrassing or offensive things until the caller hangs up.

The crazy thing I realize listening to this is I probably heard this live years ago when Anna Nicole Smith died and I was still an XM subscriber.

 

[taylorengineer]

Also, Sheriff, you must bear in mind that the licensee of WSBX has been neither charged, tried nor convicted of any criminal wrongdoing. Woody might have a license to drive a car, but he is not the licensee of WSBX.

Mamma Doreen may have a problem if WSBX is not actually back on the air as stated in the paperwork filed with the FCC.
But if returning to the air for a day constitutes "resumption of operations" then maybe she is in the clear.
What are your thoughts, Mark and/or Witchlover?

 

[Witchlover]

I see that WSBX is not on the current list of dark stations maintained on the FCC web site. That is current as of 11/2 - last week. I'm reading the Commission's web site now just trying to satisfy my own curiosity about this. Could be they gave it one good last shot, failed and gave up. I don't see the station ever coming back. I hate to see another AM station go away.

The clock is still running on that December deadline, but I doubt it really matters now.

 

[jmtillery]

I see that WSBX is not on the current list of dark stations maintained on the FCC web site. That is current as of 11/2 - last week. I'm reading the Commission's web site now just trying to satisfy my own curiosity about this. Could be they gave it one good last shot, failed and gave up. I don't see the station ever coming back. I hate to see another AM station go away.

The clock is still running on that December deadline, but I doubt it really matters now.

The licensee can file for an STA to operate at reduced power and that will save the license if the licensee actually returns the station to the air at something such as 500 watts prior to the December deadline. WSBX can always return to full power at a later date.

 

[tomservo]

I see that WSBX is not on the current list of dark stations maintained on the FCC web site. That is current as of 11/2 - last week. I'm reading the Commission's web site now just trying to satisfy my own curiosity about this. Could be they gave it one good last shot, failed and gave up. I don't see the station ever coming back. I hate to see another AM station go away.

The clock is still running on that December deadline, but I doubt it really matters now.

At one point I could have named a good half dozen silent AMs in the south alone that were not on that list. It's pretty much worthless imho.

 

[jmtillery]

I see that WSBX is not on the current list of dark stations maintained on the FCC web site. That is current as of 11/2 - last week. I'm reading the Commission's web site now just trying to satisfy my own curiosity about this. Could be they gave it one good last shot, failed and gave up. I don't see the station ever coming back. I hate to see another AM station go away.

The clock is still running on that December deadline, but I doubt it really matters now.

Do you have the link to the FCC link where you got your information?