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WOR BREAKING NEWS!!!
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Joseph_Gallant said:
I'll believe it when a deal is signed, sealed, closed and the radicals shuffled off of the premises.
As for WOR, I'd have to think that CC would try to pare down by a few years the demos of that station. I don't think they'll go for pro sports, although they could try to get UConn to go along with Rutgers, just in case those two colleges switch conferences, which I read rumors about.
Do not discount the possibility of CC flipping WOR[AM or FM, does not matter] to an Fox Sports Radio affiliate. CC can do local programming for morning and evening drivetime and use their syndicated FSR/Premiere programming from 9AM to 3 PM[Dan Patrick, debuting his new NYC Mancave within the next month followed by Jim Rome at noon]. If they decide to go after either the Yankees or Mets radio rights, it would be similar to what they did for their LA affiliate KLAC, which now airs Dodgers games. Night programming could be usecx by some more local programming and then switch to FSR national programming for the late night and overnight hours.
CC needs a NY area affiliate, as well as a NY based sports radio show to give some legitimacy to its national sports programming and batch of sports radio stations, since the two closest sports radio stations to NY are in Hartford[WPOP] and Wilmington, DE[WWTX]. For now, FSR/CC programming is mostly LA based and tilted, especially for the afternoon and evening hours.
CC needs a NY area affiliate, as well as a NY based sports radio show to give some legitimacy to its national sports programming and batch of sports radio stations, since the two closest sports radio stations to NY are in Hartford[WPOP] and Wilmington, DE[WWTX]. For now, FSR/CC programming is mostly LA based and tilted, especially for the afternoon and evening hours.
TheBigA said:
CC owns the programming. It pays Fox a fee to put the Fox Sports name on the network.
1.) Emmis/Disney deal makes Emmis the "Landlord" and Disney as the "renter". I see more of those types of deals.jmtillery said:
2.) With translators having more visibilty and an alternative to the increased interference of the AM signal in cars.
I see a possibility of a 105.5 translator in East Brooklyn, somewhere around the Broadway Junction. It will tend to serve a potential of 4.5Million of Booklyn and Queens that is hash, now, and well past a fringe of Dover or Groton. It gives a presence for an AM station, unable to serve the area due to the electrical interferences or Subway riders with headphones.
etc.
Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
Not happening. ONE complaint from WDHA, and you can bet they will after seeing the effectiveness of Press in protecting their station, and the translator is off the air. Ask the owner of 106.3 how that worked out for him, after paying for all the engineering studies, mounting an antenna on 4 Times Square and installing the TX there.
Remember, a translator is a class D service, meaning it is secondary to any primary service and must cease operation if any interference is reported. Especially in the first 90 days of operation.
A translator license is not a guarantee.
Remember, a translator is a class D service, meaning it is secondary to any primary service and must cease operation if any interference is reported. Especially in the first 90 days of operation.
A translator license is not a guarantee.
How about "accepted interference"? The Times Square 106.3 owner may not have had reason enough (read also: deep enough pockets) to challenge Press on the interference charge.WNTIRadio said:
On the other hand, if CBS were to buy, borrow, lease, a 105.5 translator for Brooklyn and Queens, I'm sure the advantages of an FM presence would outweigh the disadvantages of any court challenge.
Remember, it was Bob McAllan and Press Broadcasting that were able to effectively lobby the FCC to double the Class A power from 3kw to 6kw. I would suppose, anybody who can accomplish such a feat, would be able to shut down a translator.
Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
Barry said:
That's called supply & demand. Years ago, spot prices were higher, better cash flow, there was less competition in media, and people were fighting over the best signals. All that drove up prices. Now, it's a buyer's market. Only a few have cash or credit to buy. They can get top signals for less.
Accepted interference does NOT apply to translators. In the first year of operation, if someone complains, the translator HAS to either shut down, remedy the interference by lowering power/antenna height etc. or change frequency.
There is no court challenge for this. It's spelled out VERY clearly in the FCC rules:
Interference caused. A translator or booster may not cause predicted or actual interference. If any actual interference is created, the Commission requires the permittee or licensee to resolve all interference complaints by appropriate means. If the interference cannot be resolved, the Commission will require the FM translator or booster station to discontinue operations. See 47 CFR Section 74.1203. A translator construction permit application will not be granted if an objecting party provides convincing evidence that the proposed translator station would likely interfere with off the air reception of a full service FM station, even if there is no predicted prohibited contour overlap.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2010-title47-vol4/pdf/CFR-2010-title47-vol4-sec74-1203.pdf
There is nothing to challenge here. To change the rule, a proposed rulemaking would have to be filed with a comment period. Do you think the NAB would really let the interference rules be changed?????????
I do this for a living. I put translators and full power stations on the air. These rules are the rules, and I've had to change frequencies on translators from time to time. In NYC, there are no open frequencies to change one to with an antenna site on 4 Times Square that wouldn't cause interference to another broadcaster. The protected contours are a moot point here, it doesn't matter whether the station is 5 miles away or 50 miles away, if it impacts a listener than the translator is gone.
This isn't the OJ case, sometimes deep pockets don't solve a problem. Do you think CBS would want to open up that can of worms for one translator in NYC?! If the interference rule gets relaxed for CBS, then it can also adversely affect CBS's other full power stations. A rule does not apply to only one case. It is not worth the time for CBS to pursue something that could cause interference to all of its other properties.
Interesting the Times Square situation was Clear Channel as we have 970WFLA - a Clear Channel station - that is using a translator on 105.9 in Tampa and they have WTZB, Englewood a C3 on 105.9, with a transmitter in Venice. As you travel North to Tampa, it is clear that the translator is interfering with the signal from WTZB in Southern Hillsborough County.WNTIRadio said:
I understand they are both being operated by Clear Channel, but if the interference is there from the translator, then how is it allowed to continue with no other complaints from listeners? Within an operating range, they seem to be far enough away from each other so the effectiveness of each broadcast is being minimally affected.
Here is the other kicker, how about instead of complaints FROM the translator, how about complaints about the C3 TO the translator?
In my completely made up scenario of 105.5 for WINS in Brooklyn, there is even more interference to WDHA's 1Million milliwatt signal from the signals on Empire than from the translator.
WDHA's signal is broken into little pieces inside The City. Hardly, effective marketing for a station in Dover, New Jersey.
There are plans to cover Pinellas County with 94.5 translator for the same purpose as 105.9.
Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
Okay, this is the last time I'm going to explain this.
A translator is a SECONDARY service. Meaning, like a Part 15 device, it must accept interference from any other licensed source. A C3 (as is an A, B1, B, C, C0 etc) is a "protected" license. There are protected contours and spacing requirements that must be met.
A translator has to show protection to co-channel, 1st, 2nd and for now, 3rd adjacent stations. It gets a little more complex when it is a fill-in translator vs. a "regular" one, power levels and protections change.
But, the end all, be all and rule is that a translator is a CLASS D license. It HAS to accept interference and cannot cause any licensed station that is class A or higher.
My hunch is that CC in Florida, if they got any complaints directly to the station, did not forward them to the FCC in a filing. It is to their benefit financially to leave it alone. Because it's all the same company, they can choose not to complain.
There is no situation like that in NYC. There won't be because of the diversity of ownership in the suburbs and the many short-spacings that are in the market.
With the interference rules being so strict, it is a wonder that there are so many translators able to continue operating in major markets, such as Atlanta.
I would guess that relatively few radio listeners realize that an interference complaint about a translator to the F.C.C. would be very effective.
I would guess that relatively few radio listeners realize that an interference complaint about a translator to the F.C.C. would be very effective.
Those markets are more "open" than NYC. There are a lot less suburban stations in Atlanta than NYC, and far less short spacing issues than here in the northeast.
A lot of them probably aren't interfering with anyone.
See this article http://www.radio-info.com/news/fcc-orders-tim-martz-detroit-fm-translator-off-the-air for more information on how and why they get shut down. WIOT, a Clear Channel station in Toldedo had complaints, or most likely solicited complaints about the 104.7 translator in Detroit. End result, translator off the air.
A lot of them probably aren't interfering with anyone.
See this article http://www.radio-info.com/news/fcc-orders-tim-martz-detroit-fm-translator-off-the-air for more information on how and why they get shut down. WIOT, a Clear Channel station in Toldedo had complaints, or most likely solicited complaints about the 104.7 translator in Detroit. End result, translator off the air.
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