Worcester area translator for WJMN on the air on 94.9

[BRNout]

Re: How can Clear Channel own this translator?

FCC rules are quite specific that the licensee of a radio station CAN NOT own a translator located outside the primary stations' contour. Is Paxton within 40 miles of Newton?

Then, how do you explain all of the translators that exist in the intermountain west? Stations from places like Salt Lake City and Grand Junction have translators that are literally hundreds of miles beyond the contour of their primary signal. And, new ones do go up. For example, KODJ Salt Lake City has a translator in Kanab, UT, which is on the Arizona border and some 300 miles from their tx site.

Grand Junction stations have translators in places like Aspen and Glenwood Springs - also well beyond their respective primary contours. In both cases, by the way, there are also local FM stations...so these translators do not provide the sole FM service. Nor are all grandfathered.

 

[RadioStationDudeUSA]

Re: How can Clear Channel own this translator?


Then, how do you explain all of the translators that exist in the intermountain west? Stations from places like Salt Lake City and Grand Junction have translators that are literally hundreds of miles beyond the contour of their primary signal. And, new ones do go up. For example, KODJ Salt Lake City has a translator in Kanab, UT, which is on the Arizona border and some 300 miles from their tx site.

Grand Junction stations have translators in places like Aspen and Glenwood Springs - also well beyond their respective primary contours. In both cases, by the way, there are also local FM stations...so these translators do not provide the sole FM service. Nor are all grandfathered.
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How does a station have a translator 100, 200 or even 300 miles away? Simple!

First of all, Im sure the recieve antenna is a very directiona, high gain yagi at a very high altitude

Secondly, the station being rebroadcast on the translator doesnt own it.

There's no rules saying a translator cant rebroadcast a station from 300 miles away, it just governs who can own that translator.

 

[BRNout]

Re: How can Clear Channel own this translator?

How does a station have a translator 100, 200 or even 300 miles away? Simple!

First of all, Im sure the recieve antenna is a very directiona, high gain yagi at a very high altitude

Secondly, the station being rebroadcast on the translator doesnt own it.

There's no rules saying a translator cant rebroadcast a station from 300 miles away, it just governs who can own that translator.

Some do it that way, others (with significant translator networks) use a microwave feed. Actually, they can employ a chain - picking the signal off of the next nearest translator. Of course, when that one goes out - the rest lose service.

KSFI has a huge translator network - which is advertised on the station - but it does appear that most of them are licensed to different entities (other than Bonneville). They are in cahoots with them!

 

[KML0224]

What holes is this translator trying to fill? As expected, I checked the station on my Walkman, flipping between 94.9 and 94.5, back and forth. Heading east along I-90 this morning, WHOM drifted in and out a couple of times around Upton and Westborough. "WJMN" was a bit better in Westborough and WHOM was a little better near the Ashland/Framingham line.

I now have question as for a station ID on the top of the hour. Voiceover man Eric Edwards didn't mention it at all one hour. On the next go around, you hear "WJMN Boston and W235AV" with no city. Strange!

 

[RadioStationDudeUSA]

You are not required to an ID a translator every single hour of every day.

I think you only have to id the translator in full 3 times a day, spreead out over a good portion of the day, not bunched up al lat 2am

Look at WMNR Fine Arts Radio in Monroe.. listen to them, they don't ID every translator every hour.

 

[Eli Polonsky]

You are not required to an ID a translator every single hour of every day.

I think you only have to id the translator in full 3 times a day, spreead out over a good portion of the day, not bunched up al lat 2am

I believe that WGBH ID's their translator on 96.3 every four hours or thereabouts.

 

[THE_VIKING]

Re: PAGING SCOTT FYBUSH!!!!

I'm hearing Jamn 94.5 on 94.9 pointed just north of west from down here on the south shore. This must be W235AV Tatnuck coming from WSRS's tower in Paxton....

Is Tatnuck a city or town? I thought it was an area in Worcester. I guess translators don't have to be licensed to actual full cities or towns, such as the WGBH one on 96.3 in Kendall Square, Cambridge is licensed to "Beacon Hill".

Tatnuck is indeed a neighborhood in northwestern Worcester, just down 122 from Paxton.

 

[jlehmann]

I believe that WGBH ID's their translator on 96.3 every four hours or thereabouts.

Does that ID just go over 96.3? I haven't heard 96.3 mentioned on 89.7 in quite a while, just 89.5 WNCK.

 

[vibe]

I know what's done is done but 94.9 HOM had a solid to near city grade signal in most of Sutton MA (10 mi S of Worc). In some areas on Central Turnpike (the main route between Northbridge, West Sutton and Oxford) one could even get 94.9 HOM on seek/scan. I wasn't crazy about HOM's format but it was fun to hear what was going on near the north Pole!
But no more. Dod HOM hang themselves with such a conservative coverage map that allowed a translator to move in to an area where their signal is consistently received?

 

[KML0224]

Again, my Panasonic AM/FM/CD stereo ("Walkman"...sorry Sony!), had WHOM-FM and the WJMN-FM translator fighting it out between Exit 9 and Exit 10. Heading east on I-90, there's always this one spot near mile marker 80 and the eastbound Charlton rest stop where New Hampshire gets quite strong. Besides WHOM-FM getting strong, the Manchester station on 95.7 (WZID-FM?) comes in as a local for a minute or two. I only know this because the "Walkman" was tuned to WKSS-FM 95.7 of Hartford/Meriden and I was checking how far out their signal would get from the Meriden, CT transmitter.

 

[LA_Guy]

I'm talking about OWNED translators...

Commercial FM translators that are OWNED by the licensee won't be authorized outside of the service contour of the station.

ANYONE can OWN a translator...and of course there are plenty of translators that rebroadcast distant stations-BUT the station can not OWN said translator-it has to be owned by someone else.

Indeed, the FCC tightened the regulations even further in the "Jukebox Radio" case-now you can't even 'support' a translator financially if it's located outside your service contour.