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Worst Cable Systems in America

mvcg66b3r said:
CableComm Willsboro NY (Essex County - Burlington/Plattsburgh DMA)
Carries WPIX NYC for CW instead of WPTZ-DT2. Some channels are duplicated in analog and digital. Also no PPV or VOD.
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...NY55723:X&isDescriptionOn=true&aid=tvschedule
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Also no HD! They also carry WWOR for MNT and they carry all four Montreal VHF stations (ici, CBC, TVA, and CTV) - very few American systems carry TVA. Most systems in the Burlington-Plattsburgh area carry at least CBC and CTV
 
From Haley Prentice on a Facebook group:

A Town Now Without Cable TV: Star City AR. The cable TV system (in place since 1983) was shutdown earlier this week and the dishes removed, and cables cut from the receiving tower at its now abandoned head-end. The out of town owners (CCC-Cablevision of Monticello AR) citing lack of customers (b/c of competition from Dish, DirecTV) shut down the system rather than convert to all digital as is being done in other areas. A few outlying areas of the county had service to the end, but it was mostly a city-wide system. I confirmed the system was still in operation this past weekend when CNN was still audible on 87.7 (cable channel 6 NTSC) via several large cable leaks in town. The last picture was taken a couple of weeks ago and shows in better detail the OTA antennas (which are still in place now).
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/fmradiopioneers/901965766549759/?notif_t=group_activity

This was their channel lineup. It had mostly Little Rock channels but carried KTVE El Dorado/Monroe for NBC instead of KARK. Also no KARZ (MNT).
http://ccc-cable.com/services/hddigital-tv-and-basic-cable/channel-lineups/star-city-ar/

By contrast, here's CCC's Monticello lineup, which does have KARK and KARZ:
http://ccc-cable.com/services/hddigital-tv-and-basic-cable/channel-lineups/monticello-ar/
 
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mvcg66b3r said:
From Haley Prentice on a Facebook group:



https://www.facebook.com/groups/fmradiopioneers/901965766549759/?notif_t=group_activity

This was their channel lineup. It had mostly Little Rock channels but carried KTVE El Dorado/Monroe for NBC instead of KARK. Also no KARZ (MNT).
http://ccc-cable.com/services/hddigital-tv-and-basic-cable/channel-lineups/star-city-ar/

By contrast, here's CCC's Monticello lineup, which does have KARK and KARZ:
http://ccc-cable.com/services/hddigital-tv-and-basic-cable/channel-lineups/monticello-ar/
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CCC has some other bad systems, such as Rosedale, MS (http://ccc-cable.com/services/hddigital-tv-and-basic-cable/channel-lineups/rosedale-ms/) and Rison, AR (http://ccc-cable.com/services/hddigital-tv-and-basic-cable/channel-lineups/rison-ar/)
 
mvcg66b3r said:
NewWave - Blackwell TX
Carries CBS from Abilene and San Angelo - co-owned, basically semi-satellites of each other
http://www.newwavecom.com/pdf/texas/BlackwellTX.pdf
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This system must have shut down recently, I entered Blackwell's ZIP Code (79506) on Zap2it and it came up empty. But the above link still goes to NewWave's Blackwell lineup, even though the town isn't listed on the channel lineup page.
 
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Here's why some of the systems on this thread may be going under.

Rising Programming Costs Putting Small Cable Systems Out Of Business

High programming costs have caused over 1,000 small and rural cable systems to go out of business over the last seven years.

In an August 21 filing with the Federal Communications Commission, the American Cable Association -- which represents small and mid-size cable systems -- says 1,078 cable systems serving 50,000 subscribers have gone out of business since 2008 due to rapidly escalating programming costs from rising rates of traditional cable networks as well as broadcast TV stations.

In 2014 alone, 47 cable operators shut down 91 systems serving 5,307 customers in 32 states. The group now says there are 4,833 cable systems versus 5,127 of a few years ago.
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http://www.mediapost.com/publicatio...gramming-costs-putting-small-cable-syste.html
 
Some bad cable systems in Georgia.

Bulldog Cable Abbeville GA (Wilcox County - Macon DMA)
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...1001&setMyPreference=false&lineupId=GA10606:-

Bulldog Cable Dudley GA (Laurens County - Macon DMA)
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...1022&setMyPreference=false&lineupId=GA55448:-

Bulldog Cable East Dublin GA (Laurens County - Macon DMA)
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...1027&setMyPreference=false&lineupId=GA58583:-

Bulldog Cable Gordon GA (Wilkinson County - Macon DMA)
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...1031&setMyPreference=false&lineupId=GA10580:-

Windstream Irwinton GA (Wilkinson County - Macon DMA)
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...1042&setMyPreference=false&lineupId=GA00078:-

Bulldog Cable Rentz GA (Laurens County - Macon DMA)
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...1075&setMyPreference=false&lineupId=GA61036:-

Bulldog Cable Rochelle GA (Wilcox County - Macon DMA)
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...1079&setMyPreference=false&lineupId=GA10576:-

Bulldog Cable Sparta GA (Hancock County - Macon DMA)
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...1087&setMyPreference=false&lineupId=GA10581:-

Bulldog Cable Wrens GA (Jefferson County - Augusta DMA)
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...0833&setMyPreference=false&lineupId=GA10552:-

Bulldog Cable Colquitt GA (Miller County - Tallahassee DMA)
http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...9837&setMyPreference=false&lineupId=GA10553:-
 
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mvcg66b3r said:
Two cursed Comcast systems in the Atlanta DMA, just miles from each other.
Monticello GA (Jasper County): http://www.zap2it.com/rmp/tvgrid/tv...GA10548-DEFAULT&tz=US/Eastern&time=1410912000
Newborn GA (Newton County): http://www.zap2it.com/rmp/tvgrid/tv...GA57289-DEFAULT&tz=US/Eastern&time=1410912000
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The Monticello system (at least) may have been sold to Bulldog Cable, which runs most of the systems in the last post.
http://www.bulldogcable.com/locations.html

Updated Zap2it link: http://tvschedule.zap2it.com/tvlist...1064&setMyPreference=false&lineupId=GA10548:-
 
I present to you the following Eagle Communications systems:

Alma, NE (Lincoln DMA): http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/NEBRASKA-2_ALMA.pdf

Bellwood, NE (Lincoln DMA). Carries WOWT for NBC instead of local KSNB: http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/NEBRASKA-2_BELLWOOD.pdf

Big Springs, NE (Denver DMA). Carries KNOP for NBC instead of local KUSA: http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/NEBRASKA-2_BIGSPRINGS.pdf

Bird City/McDonald, KS (Wichita DMA). Carries the Big 3 and CW from Denver alongside the Wichita Big 4: http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/KANSAS-NO-Q_BIRD-MCD.pdf

Brule, NE (Denver DMA). Carries KNOP for NBC instead of local KUSA: http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/NEBRASKA-2_BRULE.pdf

Franklin, NE (Lincoln DMA): http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/NEBRASKA-2_FRANKLIN.pdf (Note: the non-PDF lineup adds KNHL on channel 99)

Goodland, KS (Wichita DMA). The second largest community (Colby is slightly larger) between Hays and Denver should have a better lineup than this. Also carries NBC and CW from Denver alongside Wichita locals: http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/GOODLAND-7-23-15.pdf

Hoxie, KS (Wichita DMA): http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/KANSAS-NO-Q_HOXIE.pdf

Lincoln, KS (Wichita DMA): http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/KANSAS-NO-Q_LINCOLN.pdf

Lincolnville, KS (Wichita DMA): http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/KANSAS-NO-Q_Lincolnville.pdf

Milford, KS (Topeka DMA): http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/KANSAS-NO-Q_MILFORD.pdf

Oberlin, KS (Wichita DMA). Carries KWGN alongside local CW KSCW: http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/OBERLIN-7-23-15.pdf

Paxton, NE (Denver DMA). Carries KWNB and KNOP instead of locals KMGH and KUSA respectively: http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/NEBRASKA-2_PAXTON.pdf

Red Cloud, NE (Lincoln DMA): http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/NEBRASKA-2_RED_CLOUD.pdf (Note: the non-PDF lineup adds KNHL on channel 97)

Riley, KS (Topeka DMA): http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/KANSAS-NO-Q_RILEY.pdf

St. Francis, KS (Wichita DMA). Carries the Big 3 and CW from Denver alongside the Wichita Big 4: http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/KANSAS-NO-Q_STFRANCIS.pdf

Wray, CO (Denver DMA). Carries KBSL alongside local CBS KMGH: http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/WRAY-7-23-15.pdf
 
ftballfan said:
I present to you the following Eagle Communications systems:

Alma, NE (Lincoln DMA): http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/NEBRASKA-2_ALMA.pdf

Bellwood, NE (Lincoln DMA). Carries WOWT for NBC instead of local KSNB: http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/NEBRASKA-2_BELLWOOD.pdf

Big Springs, NE (Denver DMA). Carries KNOP for NBC instead of local KUSA: http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/NEBRASKA-2_BIGSPRINGS.pdf

Bird City/McDonald, KS (Wichita DMA). Carries the Big 3 and CW from Denver alongside the Wichita Big 4: http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/KANSAS-NO-Q_BIRD-MCD.pdf

Brule, NE (Denver DMA). Carries KNOP for NBC instead of local KUSA: http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/NEBRASKA-2_BRULE.pdf

Franklin, NE (Lincoln DMA): http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/NEBRASKA-2_FRANKLIN.pdf (Note: the non-PDF lineup adds KNHL on channel 99)

Goodland, KS (Wichita DMA). The second largest community (Colby is slightly larger) between Hays and Denver should have a better lineup than this. Also carries NBC and CW from Denver alongside Wichita locals: http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/GOODLAND-7-23-15.pdf

Hoxie, KS (Wichita DMA): http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/KANSAS-NO-Q_HOXIE.pdf

Lincoln, KS (Wichita DMA): http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/KANSAS-NO-Q_LINCOLN.pdf

Lincolnville, KS (Wichita DMA): http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/KANSAS-NO-Q_Lincolnville.pdf

Milford, KS (Topeka DMA): http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/KANSAS-NO-Q_MILFORD.pdf

Oberlin, KS (Wichita DMA). Carries KWGN alongside local CW KSCW: http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/OBERLIN-7-23-15.pdf

Paxton, NE (Denver DMA). Carries KWNB and KNOP instead of locals KMGH and KUSA respectively: http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/NEBRASKA-2_PAXTON.pdf

Red Cloud, NE (Lincoln DMA): http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/NEBRASKA-2_RED_CLOUD.pdf (Note: the non-PDF lineup adds KNHL on channel 97)

Riley, KS (Topeka DMA): http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/KANSAS-NO-Q_RILEY.pdf

St. Francis, KS (Wichita DMA). Carries the Big 3 and CW from Denver alongside the Wichita Big 4: http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/KANSAS-NO-Q_STFRANCIS.pdf

Wray, CO (Denver DMA). Carries KBSL alongside local CBS KMGH: http://djeagle.s3.amazonaws.com/media/guides/WRAY-7-23-15.pdf
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Are you using the fact that they carry a station not in their official DMA to support them being a bad system?
If so, then I have to disagree on that point, as people living in Nebraska will want Nebraska stations, not Denver stations. For state government news, state sports, etc.

Denver is not "local" regardless of the DMA in this case. Bring up some of these towns in google maps and see how much closer they are to North Platte than Denver. In fact, there are a couple of those towns that look like they should be in the North Platte DMA to begin with.
 
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mvcg66b3r said:
Charter - Chatham NY


2 WYPX - ION Basic Service|Charter TV Select
3 WNYA - MyTV Basic Service|Charter TV Select
4 WRNN - IND Basic Service|Charter TV Select
5 WMHT - PBS Basic Service|Charter TV Select
6 WRGB - CBS Basic Service|Charter TV Select
7 Local Access Basic Service|Charter TV Select
8 WXXA - FOX Basic Service|Charter TV Select
9 WCWN - CW Basic Service|Charter TV Select
10 WTEN - ABC Basic Service|Charter TV Select
11 WPIX - CW Basic Service|Charter TV Select
12 QVC Basic Service|Charter TV Select
13 WNYT - NBC Basic Service|Charter TV Select
16 TBN - Trinity Broadcasting Basic Service|Charter TV Select
19 CMT Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
20 VH1 Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
21 MTV Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
22 Lifetime Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
23 TNT Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
24 TBS Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
25 ESPN Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
26 ESPN2 Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
27 ESPN Classic Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
28 MSG Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
29 YES Network Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
30 MSG Plus Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
31 FOX Sports 1 Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
32 NBC Sports Network Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
33 A&E Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
34 HISTORY Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
35 Spike TV Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
36 AMC Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
37 Bravo Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
38 Travel Channel Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
39 Discovery Channel Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
40 Animal Planet Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
41 TLC Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
42 HGTV Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
43 Food Network Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
44 Comedy Central Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
45 FX Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
46 E! Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
47 USA Network Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
48 Syfy Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
49 TV Land Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
50 Nickelodeon Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
51 Cartoon Network Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
52 Disney Channel Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
53 SportsNet New York Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
54 ABC Family Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
55 The Weather Channel Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
56 HLN Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
57 CNN Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
58 CNBC Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
59 C-SPAN Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
60 FOX News Channel Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
61 GSN Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
62 Meadows Racing Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
96 HSN Basic Service|Charter TV Select
97 TV Guide Network Basic Service|Charter TV Select
100 The Hub Network Digital View|Digi Tier 1|Charter TV Silver
101 TeenNick Digital View|Digi Tier 1|Charter TV Silver
102 Nick Jr. Digital View|Digi Tier 1|Charter TV Silver
103 Disney XD Digital View|Digi Tier 1|Charter TV Silver
104 BBC America Digital View|Digi Tier 1|Charter TV Silver
105 Golf Channel Digital View|Digi Tier 1|Charter TV Silver
106 FXX Digital View|Digi Tier 1|Charter TV Silver
200 ESPNEWS Digital View|Digi Tier 1|Charter TV Silver
201 Science Channel Digital View|Digi Tier 1|Charter TV Silver
202 OWN Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
203 bio. Digital View|Digi Tier 1|Charter TV Silver
204 H2 Digital View|Digi Tier 1|Charter TV Silver
205 Esquire Network Digital View|Digi Tier 1|Charter TV Silver
300 WE tv Digital View|Digi Tier 1|Charter TV Silver
301 LMN Digital View|Digi Tier 1|Charter TV Silver
302 IFC Digital View|Digi Tier 1|Charter TV Silver
303 Turner Classic Movies Digital View|Digi Tier 1|Charter TV Silver
304 CLOO Digital View|Digi Tier 1|Charter TV Silver
305 MTV2 Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
306 Fuse Digital View|Digi Tier 1|Charter TV Silver
500 HBO HBO|Charter TV Silver
501 HBO Family HBO|Charter TV Silver
502 HBO 2 HBO|Charter TV Silver
503 HBO Signature HBO|Charter TV Silver
504 HBO Comedy HBO|Charter TV Silver
505 HBO Zone HBO|Charter TV Silver
550 Cinemax Cinemax|Charter TV Silver
551 MoreMAX Cinemax|Charter TV Silver
552 ActionMAX Cinemax|Charter TV Silver
553 ThrillerMAX Cinemax|Charter TV Silver
600 Showtime Showtime|Charter TV Silver
601 Showtime Showcase Showtime|Charter TV Silver
602 Showtime Extreme Showtime|Charter TV Silver
603 TMC Xtra TMC|Charter TV Gold
604 Showtime Next Showtime|Charter TV Silver
605 Showtime Family Zone Showtime|Charter TV Silver
606 Showtime Women Showtime|Charter TV Silver
607 FLIX Expanded Service|Charter TV Select
608 Encore Family Encore|Charter TV Gold
609 Showtime 2 Showtime|Charter TV Silver
610 TMC TMC|Charter TV Gold
700 Starz Starz|Charter TV Gold
701 Encore Encore|Charter TV Gold
702 Encore Black Encore|Charter TV Gold
703 Encore Action Encore|Charter TV Gold
704 Starz Cinema Starz|Charter TV Gold
705 Starz Kids & Family Starz|Charter TV Gold
706 Starz Edge Starz|Charter TV Gold
707 Encore Westerns Encore|Charter TV Gold
708 Encore Classic Encore|Charter TV Gold
709 Encore Suspense Encore|Charter TV Gold
710 Starz Comedy Starz|Charter TV Gold
801-804 iN DEMAND Pay-Per-View Events/Movies Charter Pay-Per-View
895 Playboy Charter Pay-Per-View
897 Brazzers Charter Pay-Per-View
901 Beautiful Instrumentals Digital Music|Charter TV Select
902 Jazz Vocal Blend Digital Music|Charter TV Select
903 Hottest Hits Digital Music|Charter TV Select
904 Modern Country Digital Music|Charter TV Select
905 Alternative Digital Music|Charter TV Select
906 Lite Classical Digital Music|Charter TV Select
907 Urban Beat Digital Music|Charter TV Select
908 Rock ‘n’ Roll Oldies Digital Music|Charter TV Select
909 Adult Contemporary Digital Music|Charter TV Select
910 Classic Rock Digital Music|Charter TV Select
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The New York Public Service Commission wants to force Charter to upgrade this system to get approval for its merger with Time Warner Cable.

...Charter’s record of performance in New York is already less than impressive. In Columbia County, Charter operates an ancient one-way video service-only cable system serving Chatham, N.Y. The PSC staff recommends Charter be required to bring that cable system up to date. More broadly, the staff recommends Charter be forced to spend more money on system upgrades and improved service than Time Warner Cable would have on its own.
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http://stopthecap.com/2015/09/28/n-...th-charter-time-warner-cable-merger-proposal/
 
I've walked into West Chesterfield, NH a few times. It's on the other side of the Connecticut River from Brattleboro, VT. The Vermont side of that area is Comcast, having been Adelphia before that. The broadcast lineup for them is actually quite good. The above is carried along with (I believe)

WCAX-TV (CBS) channel 3 Burlington, VT
WCDC-TV (ABC) channel 19 Adams, MA [satellite of WTEN-TV channel 10 Albany, NY]
WVTA-TV (PBS) channel 41 Windsor, VT
WGBY-TV (PBS) channel 57 Springfield, MA

As for the New Hampshire side, I would think they're really carrying WEKW-TV (PBS) channel 52 of Keene, NH [satellite of WENH-TV]. Also, somebody tell them that WSBK-TV of Boston is a MY affiliate and not CBS! :rolleyes:
 
Just stumbled across this northwestern Indiana (Chicago DMA) lineup that looks "cursed" to me: TV Cable (yes, that's the company name) Rensselaer/Morocco, IN (serving communities with a combined population of around 7,000):

Channel lineup per their corporate website doesn't show any "digital cable" other than local subchannels: http://www.rensselaer.tv/chanren2a.html

But Zap2it's lineup for this system appears to show an "upgrade" for this system--which appears to basically be all cable networks outside of basic cable moving to a three-digit channel number and local affiliates placed on their virtual channel number (e.g., WBBM on 2, WFLD on 32). Also all OTA channels are from Chicago with two exceptions: WNDU-16 South Bend (NBC) and WLFI-18 Lafayette (CBS)--no other South Bend stations are offered.

http://affiliate.zap2it.com/tvlisti...rence=false&lineupId=IN13416:X&aid=quadcty0zb
 
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