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Re: Defunct TV stations in your city

kc0ltv said:
Does your city have defunct TV stations?

Duluth has eleven.

The very first preceded all other TV stations in about 1953. It operated on UHF - requiring a special converter then - and went by the call letters "WFTV". It picked up programming from a couple networks. With KDAL and modern-day KBJR signing on in 1954, it soon went kaput.

The first eight were part of a "UHF cable TV" service common in the 1980's and 1990's in rural Minnesota. In Duluth, it went by the name of "BEAM TV". My family subscribed to it for a while when I was 7 and 8. I still remember the channel line-up:

15 - Sci-Fi Channel
27 - CNN
30 - TBS
32 - USA Network
34 - Discovery Channel
38 - Family Channel
56 - Showtime
60 - Nickelodeon

They were going to add channels on 62, 64, 66, and 68, but never did as far as I know. They shut down operations in 1996 as Primestar, Dish, and DirecTV / USSB gained popularity.

Duluth got a FOX affiliate on September 1, 1999 (KQDS 21). The enthusiasm for local TV spread to a group of local investors who started up KDUL-LP, channel 12. After several delays, it launched in the Fall of 2000, with transmitter tests in August 2000 (their puny VHF signal launched during a tropo opening, in which it was often interfered with by WJFW, Rhinelander, WI, 160 miles away). It carried A1 or AIN, as well as UPN programming and the local sports-themed public access show "The Average Guys". They received carriage on Bresnan (local) cable channel 16, which was the only way most people saw them. This probably created a inconvenient sim-sub situation with KMSP-9, which was the state's superstation at the time and then affiliated with UPN. Their transmitter had a fire in August 2001, kicking them off the air for good.

K58CM, a long standing affiliate of TBN, signed off in 2010.

We had that wireless "UHF" cable service here in Fresno, it was called Choice TV, it went dark also, as far as stations going dark and not coming back there was one in the 50s on channel 27 that carried the Dumont network, other than that KFRE CBS 12 switching to Channel 30 and KAIL 53 (MNT) switching to channel 7 recently all original stations still exist.
 
Re: Defunct TV stations in your city

Here in Boston, we had WTAO-56, the market's first UHF station, which went on the air September 28, 1953 (carrying a handful of DuMont or ABC programs but never a "full time" affiliate of either network).

WTAO went off the air two-and-a-half years later, on March 30, 1956. The station failed because not many sets in the area could get UHF at a time when most set owners had access to three (or some, even four) VHF stations: WBZ-4 and WNAC-7 from Boston plus WMUR-9 Manchester (beginning in 1954) and/or WJAR-10 Providence.

WTAO's owners Harvey Radio Labs kept the license, and briefly put the station back on the air in 1962 as an FCC-sponsored test as WXHR-TV, using programming from the Boston Catholic TV Center (according to a Boston Globe article of the period).

In 1966, the Channel 56 license along with two radio stations owned by Harvey was sold to a joint venture of Kaiser Broadcasting and the Globe, which put the station back on the air that December as WKBG (it is now WLVI).

Further West, in Worcester, there was Channel 14, originally WWOR, later WJZB. As WWOR in the 1950's, it broadcast a few ABC and DuMont shows, and a handful of local programs. After several years off the air, the station reappeared as WJZB, under the same ownership of WWLP-22 in Springfield. While simulcasting "Western Massachusetts Highlights" (a talk show) and the NBC news (then co-anchored by Chet Huntley and David Brinkley) from WWLP, the rest of the time, WJZB was an independent carrying "bargain basement" syndicated programming.

Although there were rumors that WWLP was going to try to move WJZB into the Boston market, the station left the air in 1969 after fire destroyed their facilities atop historic Mount Amnesbumskit in Paxton.

And north, in New Hampshire, there were two stations that are now defunct:

The first was WXPO-50, which launched in the Fall of 1969 as an rather ambitious independent. But the station lost money and went off the air nine months later.

Later, there was WNHT-21 in Concord, which was at first an independent, but was later a CBS affiliate. But even that wasn't enough to save it, and it went off the air around 1990.

Out in Northwest Massachusetts, there was WRLP-32 in Greenfield. Long a satellite of sister station WWLP, WRLP eventually (late 1970's) became an independent for Western Massachusetts (with a signal that greatly overlapped WWLP's). WRLP carried games of the Boston sports teams (Red Sox and Bruins from WSBK-38; Celtics and Patriots' pre-season games from WBZ), prime-time movies, but did also carry NBC's nightly news (by this time, anchored by John Chancellor).
 
Re: Defunct TV stations in your city

56 and 21 both suspended operations....but they are both on today.

WXPO-TV went off when the power company killed power to the transmitter during a Maverick rerun.



Joseph_Gallant said:
Here in Boston, we had WTAO-56, the market's first UHF station, which went on the air September 28, 1953 (carrying a handful of DuMont or ABC programs but never a "full time" affiliate of either network).

WTAO went off the air two-and-a-half years later, on March 30, 1956. The station failed because not many sets in the area could get UHF at a time when most set owners had access to three (or some, even four) VHF stations: WBZ-4 and WNAC-7 from Boston plus WMUR-9 Manchester (beginning in 1954) and/or WJAR-10 Providence.

WTAO's owners Harvey Radio Labs kept the license, and briefly put the station back on the air in 1962 as an FCC-sponsored test as WXHR-TV, using programming from the Boston Catholic TV Center (according to a Boston Globe article of the period).

In 1966, the Channel 56 license along with two radio stations owned by Harvey was sold to a joint venture of Kaiser Broadcasting and the Globe, which put the station back on the air that December as WKBG (it is now WLVI).

Further West, in Worcester, there was Channel 14, originally WWOR, later WJZB. As WWOR in the 1950's, it broadcast a few ABC and DuMont shows, and a handful of local programs. After several years off the air, the station reappeared as WJZB, under the same ownership of WWLP-22 in Springfield. While simulcasting "Western Massachusetts Highlights" (a talk show) and the NBC news (then co-anchored by Chet Huntley and David Brinkley) from WWLP, the rest of the time, WJZB was an independent carrying "bargain basement" syndicated programming.

Although there were rumors that WWLP was going to try to move WJZB into the Boston market, the station left the air in 1969 after fire destroyed their facilities atop historic Mount Amnesbumskit in Paxton.

And north, in New Hampshire, there were two stations that are now defunct:

The first was WXPO-50, which launched in the Fall of 1969 as an rather ambitious independent. But the station lost money and went off the air nine months later.

Later, there was WNHT-21 in Concord, which was at first an independent, but was later a CBS affiliate. But even that wasn't enough to save it, and it went off the air around 1990.

Out in Northwest Massachusetts, there was WRLP-32 in Greenfield. Long a satellite of sister station WWLP, WRLP eventually (late 1970's) became an independent for Western Massachusetts (with a signal that greatly overlapped WWLP's). WRLP carried games of the Boston sports teams (Red Sox and Bruins from WSBK-38; Celtics and Patriots' pre-season games from WBZ), prime-time movies, but did also carry NBC's nightly news (by this time, anchored by John Chancellor).
 
Re: Defunct TV stations in your city

Joseph_Gallant said:
Further West, in Worcester, there was Channel 14, originally WWOR, later WJZB. As WWOR in the 1950's, it broadcast a few ABC and DuMont shows, and a handful of local programs. After several years off the air, the station reappeared as WJZB, under the same ownership of WWLP-22 in Springfield. While simulcasting "Western Massachusetts Highlights" (a talk show) and the NBC news (then co-anchored by Chet Huntley and David Brinkley) from WWLP, the rest of the time, WJZB was an independent carrying "bargain basement" syndicated programming.

I thought I read on the UHF Morgue site that WWLP news and Huntley-Brinkley was its ONLY programming, at least for the time, in order to keep the license active.
 
Re: Defunct TV stations in your city

azumanga said:
KeithE4 said:
WBBS-TV Ch. 60 shared time with WPWR-TV between 1982 and 1985. It was a Spanish-language station.

The station is still on the air today, as WXFT-DT. After WSNS picked up the SIN affiliation, WBBS gave its weekday hours to WPWR, and kept its weekend hours for Spanish movies. After WPWR moved to channel 50, channel 60 was sold to HSN, and became WEHS in 1986, then Telefutura and WXFT in 2002.

WBBS's share of Channel 60 was purchased by WPWR in early 1986 (I'd thought it was late '85), ending the split-schedule arrangement. WPWR moved to Channel 50, and Channel 60 became WEHS in January of '87.
 
Re: Defunct TV stations in your city

I thought I read on the UHF Morgue site that WWLP news and Huntley-Brinkley was its ONLY programming, at least for the time, in order to keep the license active.

For the last year or two, that was it. From the June 8-14, 1968 TV Guide, Eastern New England Edition:

Mon - Fri:
6 PM (14) Highlights - Tom Colton (from WWLP)
6:30 (4) (10) (14) {COLOR} News - Chet Huntley, David Brinkley (with note "Ch. 14 does not colorcast")
7 PM (14) News, Weather, Sports (from WWLP)

I can recall two oddities - colorcast or not, the color signal was fed to the transmitter - and produced a weird phase-shifted pattern of several color images over the monochrome background. Also, they must have used a cheap timer or manual remote control - the signal would actually disappear somewhere between 7:30 and 7:45 PM - showing the beginning of whatever NBC show was on WWLP at the time. I remember it stayed on all evening at least once.
 
Re: Defunct TV stations in your city

Ultimajock said:
kenrayc said:
as far as stations going dark and not coming back there was one in the 50s on channel 27 that carried the Dumont network
...KCOK-TV/27 Fresno apparently was announced as a DuMont affiliate in an ad in the Fresno Bee, but never actually took to the air http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_DuMont_Television_Network_affiliates ...

No, It Was KVVG Tulare, It was before my time , but my grandmother told me when I was like 9, saying that she saw the Dumont Network on 27, and KBAK 29 Bakersfield that Carried Dumont and ABC in the mid 50s.
The site KVVG 27 was broadcast at, Eshom Point(Sequoia National Forest), was home for the short lived KICU 43, which went dark in the early 60s and didn't return until 1989 as KSDI.
 
Re: Defunct TV stations in your city

crainbebo said:
KCWT-27 Wenatchee, WA, 1984-1993. Had been an independent, then turned into a satellite of KCPQ-13 in Seattle [FOX], before turning into Channel America, and finally a TBN affiliate until 1993, when it's transmitter malfunctioned and KCWT went to TV Heaven.

I remember them being a semi-satellite of KAYU-28 out of Spokane (also FOX) for awhile -- this would be before the LPTV FOX affiliates launched in Yakima and the Tri-Cities.
 
Re: Defunct TV stations in your city

In the Tri-Cities, you first had KBWU 66 [which IIRC was a satellite of KAYU], and Yakima first had a translator of KAYU, K68EB on TV-68. KBWU later morphed into KFFX 11 which is full-power, and K68EB turned into KCYU-LP, still on 68, but it later moved to 41 where it is today.

-crainbebo
 
Re: Defunct TV stations in your city

Joseph_Gallant said:
...there was WNHT-21 in Concord, which was at first an independent, but was later a CBS affiliate. But even that wasn't enough to save it, and it went off the air around 1990...

IIRC, it signed off at midnight, right in the middle of CBS' main late-night offering at the time, the now-defunct "Pat Sajak Show." Not a way to go out in a blaze of glory. :-[
 
Re: Defunct TV stations in your city

DToTheJ said:
Joseph_Gallant said:
...there was WNHT-21 in Concord, which was at first an independent, but was later a CBS affiliate. But even that wasn't enough to save it, and it went off the air around 1990...

IIRC, it signed off at midnight, right in the middle of CBS' main late-night offering at the time, the now-defunct "Pat Sajak Show." Not a way to go out in a blaze of glory. :-[

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WNHT_(TV)

What doomed 21 was becoming a CBS affiliate as since NH cable also carried WNEV and WGME at the time they could not get any traction.

20 years earlier both WMUR and WXPO were mentioned as possible CBS affiliates to make ONE viewer happy -one William Paley who could not get CBS at his summer home north of Laconia and for a few years CBS paid AT&T long lines a small fortune for a microwave hop to the home.
 
Re: Defunct TV stations in your city

What would be interesting, is to discuss how many stations got as far as securing a construction permit, taking an option on a studio and transmitter location, and maybe even getting as far as firing up a test pattern, before throwing in the towel and stopping short of ever getting even a day of scheduled programming on the air.

In Buffalo, NY, the abortive Channel 59 and Channel 17, which did get on the air for a few months or a few years in the 1950s, were already mentioned. Just to the east in Rochester, Channel 15, WCBF (allied with longtime top 40 powerhouse WBBF) was a live construction permit for years although it never got a signal on the air--and a Channel 27 station, which was going to be another joint venture of WHEC and WVET while serving as the city's ABC affiliate, was on the books in the late 1950s (although without a callsign being assigned) before Channel 13 was assigned to the city as a third VHF in 1959 and got on the air to stay three years later. In Syracuse, a third VHF was granted a CP on Channel 10 just before the 1948 freeze as WAGE-TV (companion to then-WAGE-AM 620) and had an option on a Sentinel Heights tower site, but never got built--WAGE-AM later changed hands and became Meredith-owned WHEN-TV's sister station WHEN (AM). Syracuse waited until 1962 for its third VHF on channel 9.
 
Re: Defunct TV stations in your city

Bob1370 said:
What would be interesting, is to discuss how many stations got as far as securing a construction permit, taking an option on a studio and transmitter location, and maybe even getting as far as firing up a test pattern, before throwing in the towel and stopping short of ever getting even a day of scheduled programming on the air.

Boston had one - WREP-TV Channel 25 that even had the studio built in Allston ( I was in them ) and equipped.

http://www.americanradiohistory.com...1971-BC-YB-for-OCR-Page-0097.pdf#search="wrep tv"

They turned the permit back in and a few years later Pat Robinson got the license. Today it is owned by FOX.
 
Re: Defunct TV stations in your city

There are a surprising number of buildings out there that were built as TV studio facilities by radio broadcasters in the 1940s and 1950s who were absolutely certain they'd be getting TV licenses. At least a few of them never got those TV licenses, or got CPs they never built.

We had one in Rochester that you might not know about, Bob...the studio building at 191 East Avenue was constructed around 1951 by WRNY radio, complete with upstairs studios for WRNY 680 and WRNY-FM 97.9 and a big TV studio and control room in the basement for a future WRNY-TV.

After WRNY failed to prevail in the four-way battle for channel 10 (they were granted a channel 27 permit that was never built), they didn't need that big building, so they sold it around 1955 to WHEC and it became the home of WHEC 1460 and WHEC-TV 10 for the next quarter-century. (It was demolished in 1979 and the land where it sat is now the parking lot of the current WHEC studio building next door.)
 
Re: Defunct TV stations in your city

Scott Fybush said:
There are a surprising number of buildings out there that were built as TV studio facilities by radio broadcasters in the 1940s and 1950s who were absolutely certain they'd be getting TV licenses.

A good example being the aforementioned WKJF-TV 53 in Pittsburgh. A WKJF-FM radio station did
take to the air and still remains (as KDKA-FM, The Fan 93.7). Before moving into the CBS cluster
this station was in a HUGE studio building at the base of it's tower in the Mt. Washington section
of Pittsburgh. Built to accommodate Channel 53 studios, no doubt. Now largely empty except for
the 93.7 transmitter, it is perched dangerously close to the edge of the cliff.
 
Re: Defunct TV stations in your city

In addition to the already mentioned WKBF/61 here (yes, definitely a different license than what is today's WQHS/61, a Univision O&O, with a long gap between WKBF and WCLQ)...

There's, of course, WICA/15 Ashtabula, in the far northeast corner of the market.

Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WICA-TV

UHF Morgue (reprint of a 1995 Ashtabula Star-Beacon article):
http://radiodxer.bravehost.com/WICA.html

On the air briefly in the 1950s and again briefly in the 1960s.

Attached to 970/97.1, today's WFUN and WREO-FM...
 
Re: Defunct TV stations in your city

Channel 36 in Atlanta had a couple of false starts; the first being around
1954 (as WQXI-TV, which became Channel 11's call letters from 1968-73)
and whose biggest program was a Saturday-night country-music show.
Then there was the first WATL, owned by U.S. Communications, from 1969-
71. 36 returned as WATL in 1976 and has remained on the air, today being
a duopoly with WXIA.

Channel 38 in St. Petersburg was the Bay Area's first station, WSUN (1953) but
suffered some of the same problems as WNAO: in 1955 two VHFs, WFLA (NBC)
and WTVT (then-CBS) came on and 38 ended up with ABC. In 1965 ABC got
a VHF, WLCY/10 (now WTSP, the CBS affiliate). 38 tried to make a go as an
independent but, starting in 1969, was hopelessly outclassed and outrated by
Hubbard's WTOG/44. WSUN gave it up in 1971 but has since returned as WTTA.

In Orlando, Channel 35, WSWB, had a very brief run in the mid-'70s. It has returned
as Fox affiliate WOFL.

Greensboro/Winston-Salem/High Point had WTOB/26 (ABC) at roughly the same time
WNAO was on in Raleigh (1953-57). Southern Broadcasting didn't leave the market,
however, being the original owners of WGHP. Around 1967 the market got an independent,
WUBC/48, which folded around 1971, IIRC; it returned in 1981 as WGGT and today is
MyNetwork affiliate WMYV after a stint as UPN affiliate WUPN. As for Ch. 26 it's part
of UNC-TV, WUNL Winston-Salem.
 
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