Garth owns his record label, he owns his masters, and he runs the Sirius channel. The Sirius channel isn't involved in his Dive Bar tour. That's all being done with FM, because FM is local, and Sirius is national. He does a weekly Facebook Live chat, but doesn't play music there. He pulled all of his music off YouTube. He prefers Amazon because he wants people to buy music, not stream for free.
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WPLJ K-Love ratings too low to show?
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Garth owns his record label, he owns his masters, and he runs the Sirius channel. The Sirius channel isn't involved in his Dive Bar tour. That's all being done with FM, because FM is local, and Sirius is national. He does a weekly Facebook Live chat, but doesn't play music there. He pulled all of his music off YouTube. He prefers Amazon because he wants people to buy music, not stream for free.
When you say higher music are you talking about the pitching of the music being played was higher?
He wrote "lighter," not "higher."
Oh because some djs will make the pitch of the original song higher or lower when they play it on air depending on what song it is sometimes.
On air DJs generally do not have the ability to change pitch. A club DJ does, and sometimes a mix show using mixing equipment does. But it is generally a totally disabled feature in the on-air studios if it is even available anywhere.
Ah, for the good old days when you could wrap tape around the turntable drive shaft and speed up the music. "We play more music per hour then our competition! Sometimes up to 80 songs an hour!" Can't to do that with a hard drive. [Well, you could try but you'll just get an engineer chewing your ass out for gunking up a perfectly fine computer.]
Theres actually apps that easily allow someone to change the pitch of a song mix or song. Pretty sure ive heard of djs doing this on 98.7 kiss wrks in New York when it was around.
Stations don't run "apps" on digital storage and playback systems like Wide Orbit or Zetta or Audio Vault. Music is stored digitally; any pitch change would require password permission in most companies and would generally be done when initially ripped.
Some stations do do slight pitch enhancement, but it has to be done by authorized personnel. Individual shows would not be able to change this.
As I said, if a station has club DJs who do mix sets or shows, they may produce the mixes elsewhere or by connecting mixing equipment to the station board; in this case, the DJ can do what club DJs generally do, which often is pitch matching transitions and mixes. Station gear does not scratch or do any of those other dj effects, either (although the production room may have software that can emulate these things).
Of course, even back to the days of the Harmonizer we could do some pitch correction and do speed-up with certain kinds of turntables that could easily vary speed. Many storage systems today used by most big groups and stations can do speed change and pitch correction.
Religion as a whole is dropping in numbers, sure the hardcore church goers might be conservative but I bet a good number of them are not happy with how the church is handling certain issues. Is K-Love still a nitch or do they have broad appeal outside of the religious sect. And how many religious people really listen to christian music. I would bet that might be a subset of followers. Would K-Love ever reach numbers of WRCH.
K-Love definitely does not have a plurality of listening among people who identify as Christian, or even as regular church-goers. In New York state, 60% identify as Christian. One would assume WPLJ does not have any substantial portion of that potential audience. Even those 26% of New Yorkers who claim to read the Bible weekly tend to listen to secular radio more than Christian radio.
Could you argue that the listeners of K-Love are the same people that donate money to PBS? Would that be a decent gauge of ratings. I know they are different animals but the income source is about the same.
Based on what? People who donate to things? I'd suggest people are very specific in the places they direct their personal money.
I know all about Voltair... It just gives a lot of post echo that sounds like someone clanging a metal pipe. The 'tag' you mention is very audible in *e*CBET, especially in pieces that should have a good tonal quality. It gives it a screeching noise that's reminiscent of fingernails on a chalkboard. WNCT has no Voltair with just plain eCBET and I hear the eerie screeching in quite a few places. It sometimes sounds like an old reel tape squeaking against the head. That's with no Voltair in the chain.
It's not a misconception. CBET is a bad idea. It's either audible and it works, or inaudible or truly 'masked' and nothing gets logged by the PPM. I used to hear it on PLJ every time I turned it on. Whether they were using Voltair, I have no idea.
The Voltair is not a Nielsen product. The Nielsen one is the CBET device.
If turned up too high, the Voltair can sound ugly. Properly do
Greenville is a diary market. Why would they have PPM encoding at all? Or is there a typo in the call letters?
When the tag is masked by audio in the same very narrow audio band, it's transparent. In the time prior to the Voltaire, but after the PPM was introduced in 48 top 50 markets, the only complaint was a lesser number of detections.
And much has to do with the density, clipping and other functions of the audio chain of which the PPM encoding is a part
WNCT's huge signal reaches into counties that are in the Raleigh-Durham PPM market. Same reason some of the first encoders I ever saw were in Columbus, Indiana when PPM was being piloted in the adjacent Indianapolis market - then-Arbitron wanted everyone who reached into the market encoding so they could get the most complete picture of where listeners were going.
I think we are missing the boat here. Radio formats like K-Love are for entertainment in much the same way a classic rocker or country station might be. It was surprising for me to learn that a large percentage of listeners are not church-goers. You need to think of K-Love as simply a format that can generate enough listener support from communities where they have a station. Ratings in their book is the size of the bank deposits. Remember their sister station Air-1 switched format to a Praise and Worship. That change was warranted by revenue as in more donations directly relates to size of audience.
Some have noted how church attendance is falling and the number professing Christianity is falling. That is true to some extent. Digging a bit deeper, denominations are losing members in droves while the non-denominational churches are flourishing. Many 'Christians' are not professed Christians because they feel the traditional definition of Christianity is not what they identify with. Simply put, as on person stated, they'd rather try to help people like Jesus did. That person felt the Church was far removed from that. That person says they are spiritual, not Christian. It is far more likely such a person listens to a format like K-Love because they want something that jives more with their mindset and because K-Love doesn't tell them how to think. A study I saw said the Catholics realized mass media reached and involved the lax attendee and strengthened the connection regardless of whether they're in mass next week. It also was popular with non-Catholics. So, many ministries on radio are targeting these people not in the pews by giving them a neutral entertainment source they appreciate without requiring them to occupy a pew. This segment responds with financial support.
So, it's all about a mass appeal entertainment format for a certain segment of the population. With enough listeners, you have the bucks to operate and sustain yourself. It's not about church or beliefs as much as it is about finding an ample audience.
Some have noted how church attendance is falling and the number professing Christianity is falling. That is true to some extent. Digging a bit deeper, denominations are losing members in droves while the non-denominational churches are flourishing. Many 'Christians' are not professed Christians because they feel the traditional definition of Christianity is not what they identify with. Simply put, as on person stated, they'd rather try to help people like Jesus did. That person felt the Church was far removed from that. That person says they are spiritual, not Christian. It is far more likely such a person listens to a format like K-Love because they want something that jives more with their mindset and because K-Love doesn't tell them how to think. A study I saw said the Catholics realized mass media reached and involved the lax attendee and strengthened the connection regardless of whether they're in mass next week. It also was popular with non-Catholics. So, many ministries on radio are targeting these people not in the pews by giving them a neutral entertainment source they appreciate without requiring them to occupy a pew. This segment responds with financial support.
So, it's all about a mass appeal entertainment format for a certain segment of the population. With enough listeners, you have the bucks to operate and sustain yourself. It's not about church or beliefs as much as it is about finding an ample audience.
As I travel around the country, I've noticed the growth of something I'll call "ad-hoc churches." They're not traditional churches with steeples and denominations like Catholic or Methodist or Baptist or that kind of thing. They might be in former department stores or warehouses. Quite often they don't even say "church" on the building. But people seem to go there on Sundays, there's a full band inside playing some music, done kind of like an arena show with flashing lights and video screens. I think the Crystal Cathedral in California was an early example of this. That's where they hear some of this music. But there's an entire industry of Contemporary Christian music that's being created by musicians that look every bit like secular musicians, and they sound every bit like secular musicians, but the message is different. This tends to appeal to those "soccer moms" we hear about, who have aged out of the CHR music, and are looking for something they can play in the van while transporting their kids around town. Some of these same folks like country music, but don't like where country has gone lately. So for them there's Contemporary Christian Country music, which is music that might actually appeal to both audiences. In fact some songs have charted in both places. So yes, I agree that one doesn't have to go to church to like K-Love.
There are also non-religious church-like services called Sunday Assembly:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday_Assembly
Verizon happens to have Music Choice, if it's what I think it is. So does Spectrum. But I don't think there's such a thing as Verizons Music Choice.
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