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WPLJ To Pick Up Alt-Rock Format?

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My_Humps

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Could there be a possibility WPLJ will pick up alt-rock by Jan. 6, '06? If WPLJ flips from hot AC to alt-rock, then WNEW could throw in some hot AC/AAA based artists.
 
very doubtful. allthough I wish. you have to keep in mind that alt rock is a dying format on fm or as it seems right now. take for example in the last two or so years how many stations have flipped from alt rock to either rock or something else. 103.7 fnx 104.1 wmrq, 92.3 k-rock. 92.9 saugrities, 1003. in philly and lastly wlir both 92.7 and recently 107.1.
this is just my opinion and i hope it helped.

> Could there be a possibility WPLJ will pick up alt-rock by
> Jan. 6, '06? If WPLJ flips from hot AC to alt-rock, then
> WNEW could throw in some hot AC/AAA based artists.
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Ozman on 11/02/05 04:52 PM.</FONT></P>
 
> Could there be a possibility WPLJ will pick up alt-rock by
> Jan. 6, '06? If WPLJ flips from hot AC to alt-rock, then
> WNEW could throw in some hot AC/AAA based artists.
>




My_Humps:

Why would WPLJ experiment with a format that has FAILED WXRK and PLJ is doing well with its demographics?




Thanks,<P ID="signature">______________
Kevin L. Sealy</P>
 
> Could there be a possibility WPLJ will pick up alt-rock by
> Jan. 6, '06? If WPLJ flips from hot AC to alt-rock, then
> WNEW could throw in some hot AC/AAA based artists.
>
Never happen in fact I doubt they would flip anything. If they were to change formats at all it would be oldies, Scott Shannon's true oldies most likely. Unfortunately NYC will be without a current based rock station for tthe forseeable future. If Q104 did it (and I dont see why they would) they would have to blow it up and scrap the entire airstaff, no way can guys that were extolling the virtues of Tull "Aqualung" tomorrow be credible talking about how much they love Shinedown etc.
 
> > Could there be a possibility WPLJ will pick up alt-rock by
>
> > Jan. 6, '06? If WPLJ flips from hot AC to alt-rock, then
> > WNEW could throw in some hot AC/AAA based artists.
> >
>
>
>
>
> My_Humps:
>
> Why would WPLJ experiment with a format that has FAILED WXRK
> and PLJ is doing well with its demographics?
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>


It only failed on WXRK, because they didn't do it the right way. The station was remarkably bland - about 30 or so currents combined with a pitiful library of about 200 songs, all tiresome overplayed hits. The station was a total mess - I remember when they actually added a Kelly Osbourne song to their playlist ... how sad is that? The problem was that CBS/Infinity was way more in touch with K-Rock's advertisers than their audience, which gradually faded over time. And who the heck wants to hear Metallica into the Killers into Limp Bizkit anyway?</P>

What happened to WXRK is what happens when you play it too safe with the modern rock audience - they will quickly get bored and abandon you. If done the right way, Modern Rock can succeed in NYC - it just take someone with the drive and the knowledge to do it.</P>
 
> Could there be a possibility WPLJ will pick up alt-rock by
> Jan. 6, '06? If WPLJ flips from hot AC to alt-rock, then
> WNEW could throw in some hot AC/AAA based artists.

Very unlikely. WPLJ bills very well and does pretty well in their target demo. You theory doesn't make since either. Mix isn't going after PLJ, they are mainly competing with KTU and maybe Lite a little.

If WPLJ were to flip to Alternative Rock (just for the sake of discussion), then maybe WCBS FM could go Hot AC. If 95.5 changed it's calls, then it could become 101.1 WPLJ. They could still keep much of the music from Jack's playlist, but change the imaging and presentation, and add WPLJ's jocks (if they were fired).

Discuss on my theory (even though this wouldn't happen)
>
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> > > Could there be a possibility WPLJ will pick up alt-rock
> by
> >
> > > Jan. 6, '06? If WPLJ flips from hot AC to alt-rock,
> then
> > > WNEW could throw in some hot AC/AAA based artists.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > My_Humps:
> >
> > Why would WPLJ experiment with a format that has FAILED
> WXRK
> > and PLJ is doing well with its demographics?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> It only failed on WXRK, because they didn't do it the right
> way. The station was remarkably bland - about 30 or so
> currents combined with a pitiful library of about 200 songs,
> all tiresome overplayed hits. The station was a total mess
> - I remember when they actually added a Kelly Osbourne song
> to their playlist ... how sad is that? The problem was that
> CBS/Infinity was way more in touch with K-Rock's advertisers
> than their audience, which gradually faded over time. And
> who the heck wants to hear Metallica into the Killers into
> Limp Bizkit anyway? What happened to WXRK is what happens
> when you play it too safe with the modern rock audience -
> they will quickly get bored and abandon you. If done the
> right way, Modern Rock can succeed in NYC - it just take
> someone with the drive and the knowledge to do it.
>

I have to disagree with you there they didnt play it too safe at all in fact that didnt play the tight songs and they werent the safe ones. They got right abord the Limp Bizkit bandwagon because Steve Kingston's whole orientation was New Jjersey he thought that the only way to get an audience was to superserve the angry teens, and that is a major reason why they failed. By the time Rob Cross came into the picture they were well established as the nu metal station that could never shakle that rep that and the fact that New York is just not a rock town I know noone likes hearing it but all rock sticks ahave failed WNEw the legendary station witha one share which is getting better numbers now playing classic dance than they ever did as a rock station, Q104 which in truth was one of teh worst programmed active rock stations ever heard and finally krock.
 
Nope!

Nope, no chance of that happening...
Alt rock is a dying format, as is AAA, and 50's basd oldies...

> Could there be a possibility WPLJ will pick up alt-rock by
> Jan. 6, '06? If WPLJ flips from hot AC to alt-rock, then
> WNEW could throw in some hot AC/AAA based artists.
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Garrett on 11/03/05 12:46 AM.</FONT></P>
 
My_Humps:
>
> Why would WPLJ experiment with a format that has FAILED WXRK
> and PLJ is doing well with its demographics?
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
Actually, K-Rock performed better, though marginally so, with the Alt-Rock format (especially the Flashback lunch hour) than it has as a "mainstream" rock station. As for 'PLJ, it would hardly be foolhardy for them to play some of the CHR-leaning alt-rock hits from the '90s such as "I Kissed a Girl" by Jill Souble or "Peaches" by the Presidents of the United States.
 
The next format is...

Bah. The next format will be:

WKCD

All Koch, Cuomo, and Dinkins talk. They can all tell you how they had all the answers to everything. If you call, they will answer all of your questions regardless of topic. The station can announce the coming of the future King of All Media, Gov. Pataki, a year before he actually comes on. That way they can sell ads well in advance.

Weekend programming will consist of callers describing their favorite stump speech.

Once this format reaches number 1 in 25-54 demos, New Yorkers will no longer have a reason to not move to Ft. Lauderdale.

Booyah to PLJ.
 
> I have to disagree with you there they didnt play it too
> safe at all in fact that didnt play the tight songs and they
> werent the safe ones. They got right abord the Limp Bizkit
> bandwagon because Steve Kingston's whole orientation was New
> Jjersey he thought that the only way to get an audience was
> to superserve the angry teens, and that is a major reason
> why they failed. By the time Rob Cross came into the picture
> they were well established as the nu metal station that
> could never shakle that rep that and the fact that New York
> is just not a rock town I know noone likes hearing it but
> all rock sticks ahave failed WNEw the legendary station
> witha one share which is getting better numbers now playing
> classic dance than they ever did as a rock station, Q104
> which in truth was one of teh worst programmed active rock
> stations ever heard and finally krock.
>
You might've had an interesting point or two to make but I can hardly
understand a damn thing you wrote. You need to reign in those run-on sentences!
(PS: You Are Indeed A Boring Windbag! LOL!!)
 
WXRK is doing so well that they are dumping it's format.
Not a good argument
Could there be a possibility WPLJ will pick up alt-rock by
>
> > Jan. 6, '06? If WPLJ flips from hot AC to alt-rock, then
> > WNEW could throw in some hot AC/AAA based artists.
> >
>
>
>
>
> My_Humps:
>
> Why would WPLJ experiment with a format that has FAILED WXRK
> and PLJ is doing well with its demographics?
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> <P ID="signature">______________
Norm Rosen
</P>
 
Re: WPLJ no but...

> Could there be a possibility WPLJ will pick up alt-rock by
> Jan. 6, '06?

PLJ???? No. Def Not.
I think you could make an argument about CD 101.9 flipping. That would be an interesting discussion.


>If WPLJ flips from hot AC to alt-rock, then
> WNEW could throw in some hot AC/AAA based artists.

Again no. 107.1 WXPK is already AAA.
 
Re: WPLJ no but...

> > Could there be a possibility WPLJ will pick up alt-rock by
>
> > Jan. 6, '06?
>
> PLJ???? No. Def Not.
> I think you could make an argument about CD 101.9 flipping.

WQCD bills as much as or just slightly more than WPLJ. The chances of it flipping are about as close to zero as you can get.

> That would be an interesting discussion.

And decidedly one-sided.
 
Re: WPLJ no but...

> > I think you could make an argument about CD 101.9
> flipping.
>
> WQCD bills as much as or just slightly more than WPLJ. The
> chances of it flipping are about as close to zero as you can
> get.
>
> > That would be an interesting discussion.
>
> And decidedly one-sided.
>

Well now I see you are clearly just trying to personally attack me. But in any case you can make the argument based on the fact that Emmis owns the very sucessful alternative station Q101 in Chicago. If alternative to were to reappear in NY, it needs to be done right and that would be a good place to start. Anyone can share their opinion. After all, none of us knows what the future holds. You apparently feel the need to always be arrogant and right.
 
Re: WPLJ no but...

>
> Well now I see you are clearly just trying to personally
> attack me. But in any case you can make the argument based
> on the fact that Emmis owns the very sucessful alternative
> station Q101 in Chicago. If alternative to were to reappear
> in NY, it needs to be done right and that would be a good
> place to start. Anyone can share their opinion. After all,
> none of us knows what the future holds. You apparently feel
> the need to always be arrogant and right.
>
He's not personally attacking you. He's just telling you something you don't want to hear - the truth! All David wrote is the facts about WQCD's billings.
All you're writing is propaganda, I mean I like Q-101 Chicago, but it's hardly what one would call a success ratings-wise.
 
> > I have to disagree with you there they didnt play it too
> > safe at all in fact that didnt play the tight songs and
> they
> > werent the safe ones. They got right abord the Limp Bizkit
>
> > bandwagon because Steve Kingston's whole orientation was
> New
> > Jjersey he thought that the only way to get an audience
> was
> > to superserve the angry teens, and that is a major reason
> > why they failed. By the time Rob Cross came into the
> picture
> > they were well established as the nu metal station that
> > could never shakle that rep that and the fact that New
> York
> > is just not a rock town I know noone likes hearing it but
> > all rock sticks ahave failed WNEw the legendary station
> > witha one share which is getting better numbers now
> playing
> > classic dance than they ever did as a rock station, Q104
> > which in truth was one of teh worst programmed active rock
>
> > stations ever heard and finally krock.
> >
> You might've had an interesting point or two to make but I
> can hardly
> understand a damn thing you wrote. You need to reign in
> those run-on sentences!
> (PS: You Are Indeed A Boring Windbag! LOL!!)
>


Think what you like about my grammar etc, but I also know what I am talking about in more posts than most.

Ps You're just jealous!

There, succinct enough for you?

LOl
 
Re: WPLJ no but...

> >
> > Well now I see you are clearly just trying to personally
> > attack me. But in any case you can make the argument based
>
> > on the fact that Emmis owns the very sucessful alternative
>
> > station Q101 in Chicago. If alternative to were to
> reappear
> > in NY, it needs to be done right and that would be a good
> > place to start. Anyone can share their opinion. After all,
>
> > none of us knows what the future holds. You apparently
> feel
> > the need to always be arrogant and right.
> >
> He's not personally attacking you. He's just telling you
> something you don't want to hear - the truth! All David
> wrote is the facts about WQCD's billings.
> All you're writing is propaganda, I mean I like Q-101
> Chicago, but it's hardly what one would call a success
> ratings-wise.
>
Yeah q101 is a decent enough station but it isnt really "successful". For a station in market number 3 you cant name any of the airstaff with the exception of Mancow and they suffer a similar ratings quandry as krock and many of the Stern anchored stations. They dissapear after their morning show goes off. They just revamped the station with their "q101 on shuffle" approach meaning they moved away from their active rock incarnation (because they were being beaten by the Zone there) and went back to a true alternative posture, luckily the Zone flipped and Q survived. Survival is not success by the standards you're suggesting.

No personal attack meant here.
 
Re:well

> All you're writing is propaganda, I mean I like Q-101
> Chicago, but it's hardly what one would call a success
> ratings-wise.
>
Propaganda is a bit strong and poor choice of a word. There needs to be a defined cause as well as a fallacy of information. Since I am not promoting any cause whatsoever (merely an idea) nor have I made up things you would be incorrect.
Of course all of these threads about flipping random stations are rediculous. But anything is possible. Nearly no one thought CBSFM would go Jack of all things and look what happened. You can almost make a theory about any station doing something completely different, but that doesn't make it propaganda.
 
q101

> Yeah q101 is a decent enough station but it isnt really
> "successful". For a station in market number 3 you cant name
> any of the airstaff with the exception of Mancow and they
> suffer a similar ratings quandry as krock and many of the
> Stern anchored stations. They dissapear after their morning
> show goes off. They just revamped the station with their
> "q101 on shuffle" approach meaning they moved away from
> their active rock incarnation (because they were being
> beaten by the Zone there) and went back to a true
> alternative posture, luckily the Zone flipped and Q
> survived. Survival is not success by the standards you're
> suggesting.
>
> No personal attack meant here.
>

None taken :) And you are a little closer to what I meant. I meant Q101 is a better alternative station compared to others of its kind. I wasn't claiming that q101 did great in Chicago...apparently that's what everyone else thought. That is self explanatory.
 
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