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WQHT HD2 format change WTF

hubcity said:
Barry said:
While I agree that it makes sense to have a format on HD2 that is different from the main channel, it seems redundant for 97.1 HD2 to play alternative/modern rock, when there are already three other HD subchannels devoted to the format. But perhaps Emmis is trying to keep the 'RXP brand around, in case they want to bring it back somehow. CBS may be thinking the same thing with K-Rock, on 92.3 HD2.

But where else can one get one's alternative rock mixed with Van Halen and AC/DC?

/feel free to let the boneheadedness of that statement sink in. I really don't get it.

WMMR from Philly is another place where you can get it (though they're mainly active rock and in the top 5 for their market). And for those of us who want an active/alternative hybrid, RXP's playlist doesn't go far enough (the only active rock they play are classics). While they're still better than a lot of mainstream HD1 stations, their playlist somehow manages to have the worst of both worlds. It takes some effort to have "out of place" songs while maintaining a narrow, bland mix overall. And yet I'll be jumping for joy if that came back to HD1. Better than have no rock in the city at all. I'm sure my co-worker from Philly would be laughing at me for having such low standards for radio.


I also think commercial stations are getting a clue that their HD2s should be completely different than their HD1s, so that HD2 listeners know they've dropped back to HD1 when it happens, and they don't cannibalize their FM/HD1 listeners by putting a complimentary format on HD2. MyRXP makes sense from that perspective, though frankly its playlist makes no sense.

Yes, their HD2 is a different genre than their HD1 but again, MyRXP is just as generic as that of your average conventional station. It makes no sense to make the playlist for their HD2 version more narrow.
 
Brooklyndon said:
WQHT AND WRXP DO NOT SERVE THE SAME CLIENT. IN FACT WRXP NEVER SERVED ANY CLIENT, WHICH IS WHY THE PLUG WAS PULLED ON THAT CANCER FORMAT, RIGHT AFTER IT DEVALUED THE SIGNAL SUPPORTIKG IT SO MUCH THAT THE STATION SOLD AT WHAT WAS THEN DUBBED, MEMORY SERVE ME CORRECTLY, A FIRE SALE PRICE.bWRXP IS A DEVALUING CANCER THAT ROBS OWNERS OF THEIR EQUITY AND ANY EXEC THAT TOUCHES IT SHOULD LOSE HIS OR HER JOB.

If the numbers are any clue, RXP still served more clients (more than double in fact) than WEMP is doing right now.
 
Brooklyndon.

You're angry, I understand. The same thing happened to me with WQHT back in 1992 when they flipped the dance format to hip-hop. Take your anger to action. DO SOMETHING.

This is what angers me about some fans of music. People get upset, angry, ticked that the format changed; I remember this from the country fans after WYNY flipped to 'KTU back in 1996, when fans of oldies of 'CBS-FM were blindsided with the "Jack" change. There was a protest outside of CBS studios when this happened, but did anything go on afterwards? NOPE.

Most of you may think I'm nuts doing what I've been doing all these years. But love it or hate it, you know that someone out there is continually fighting for dance music and that we're not letting up. And when a dance station DOES come along, we give FULL support and spread the word to our community.

So Brooklyn....you hated what happened and I hear ya. Now, do something about it.
 
Brooklyndon said:
Worries about audience cannibalization are anachronistic in 2012, where Internet streams mean that any format cent be heard on any computer (including phones) anywhere. If one station cannibalizes another, and you own both, you have no net change in audience, a resounding positive in a dying industry.

The goal should be to have two or three Chandler to serve the same client so that the need to seek another vendor is alleviated.

WQHT AND WRXP DO NOT SERVE THE SAME CLIENT. IN FACT WRXP NEVER SERVED ANY CLIENT, WHICH IS WHY THE PLUG WAS PULLED ON THAT CANCER FORMAT, RIGHT AFTER IT DEVALUED THE SIGNAL SUPPORTIKG IT SO MUCH THAT THE STATION SOLD AT WHAT WAS THEN DUBBED, MEMORY SERVE ME CORRECTLY, A FIRE SALE PRICE.bWRXP IS A DEVALUING CANCER THAT ROBS OWNERS OF THEIR EQUITY AND ANY EXEC THAT TOUCHES IT SHOULD LOSE HIS OR HER JOB.

So by what you're saying since FM News 101.9 is doing worse than WRXP ever did, 101.9 is devalued even more?
 
Random question, but are they now using their Jelli feed on HD2 (their regular stream was taken offline, so I'm just curious).
 
The Jelli feed is different from the on-air 97.1 HD2 feed.

Jelli can be manipulated by listeners voting on songs, unlike the on-air feed.

Jelli streaming URLs: http://sc4.lga.llnw.net/stream/jelli_stream_36 or http://cast.voxcdn.net/3676-jelli-stream-36

Indeed, the streaming URLs for WRXPFM/WRXPIP that were working for a while after the 1/18 97.1 HD2 flip are now dead.
According to the myrxp.com website's broadcast history, the last song played on the stream was R.E.M.'s "It's The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)" at 11:02pm on Mon. 1/23/12.

So now Emmis' MyRXP on WQHT-HD2 and Merlin/Emmis Smooth Jazz on WEMP-HD2 are similar in that both stations are on-air only with virtually no online presence (MyRXP.com) and no presence at all (the former CD1019.com).
 
I'm actually surprised that WWPR (Power 105.1) doesn't take the "throwback" old-skool hip-hop format onto their HD-2. What's the point of running a Latino station there when you have LaMega and X-96.3, both stations on standard FM that covers the Latino audience well?

Put old-skool hip-hop on 105.1 HD-2. That makes more sense and would complement the current hip-hop/R&B going on 105.1 now.
 
My guess is that WWPR HD2 runs Spanish a/c music because owner Clear Channel may want to have at least a toehold in Spanish programming in New York. CC of course runs Spanish language stations in a number of other markets.
WWPR HD2, which rebroadcasts CC's Mia stream, is actually more similar to WPAT FM than La Mega or X 96.3. Should WPAT switch to another format due to relatively low ratings, this may be the only Spanish A/C broadcast in New York.
Also, WWPR's ratings are often so close to that of rival WQHT, that even if only a small amount of people would listen to a classic hip-hop channel or stream, it could siphon enough listeners away to cause some concern.
 
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