Siegel's a bit on the dry side, but does a nice job. Much more listenable than the Dr. Laura of the personal finance world.
-
Get involved.
We want your input!
Apply for Membership and join the conversations about everything related to broadcasting.
After we receive your registration, a moderator will review it. After your registration is approved, you will be permitted to post.
If you use a disposable or false email address, your registration will be rejected.
After your membership is approved, please take a minute to tell us a little bit about yourself.
https://www.radiodiscussions.com/forums/introduce-yourself.1088/
Thanks in advance and have fun!
RadioDiscussions Administrators
WRKO Program Cahnge
- Thread starter john garrett
- Start date
Many evangelicals believe that "tithing" should come at the top of the list. First things first, etc.
Funny he's on here in Phoenix 1215-2pm and they boast about having 600 stations nationwide.
I think that was before these two defections. They probably won't update their marketing to reflect the changes.
Here I was thinking Ramsey was welcomed as the only popular syndicated talk show, other than Coast to Coast, which doesn't talk exclusively about conservative national politics. But he has lost three large market stations in the last year or so, Boston and Philadelphia recently, and in 2017, NYC, when WOR dropped him.
Speaking of Coast to Coast, does anyone remember when Mike Siegel hosted the show after Art Bell left the first time? IIRC, Bell returned after a year or so, forcing out Siegel. Then Bell left again and that's when George Noory, not Siegel, got the gig. They didn't even give Siegel a weekend slot. The way I remember it, Siegel was a bit of a skeptic, which Bell proved you cannot be. If someone calls at 4am saying there are little green men running around his farm, Bell would ask how many and how tall they are. Siegel would doubt the caller.
Speaking of Coast to Coast, does anyone remember when Mike Siegel hosted the show after Art Bell left the first time? IIRC, Bell returned after a year or so, forcing out Siegel. Then Bell left again and that's when George Noory, not Siegel, got the gig. They didn't even give Siegel a weekend slot. The way I remember it, Siegel was a bit of a skeptic, which Bell proved you cannot be. If someone calls at 4am saying there are little green men running around his farm, Bell would ask how many and how tall they are. Siegel would doubt the caller.
Well they make it sound local.If it's his national show, well....
I wonder if it's geographical. Maybe his approach is seen as mainly a southern thing that doesn't appeal to northerners.
There may some truth to this, but I tend to think you are seeing more of a generational listenership change. Dave is nearly 60 years old. His audience has been aging with him and probably fewer "younger" listeners are following him. Another part of the equation may very well be his longevity is finally costing him. He has been on the air for almost three decades. Still - 500 plus stations with over 10 million listeners - after all these years is pretty dang impressive. Also, it may be interesting to note that he was moved from his Nashville flagship station (100kw WWTN) to the less than stellar former powerhouse WLAC-AM and has certainly had a fraction of the listenership in his home market. Seriously, I have heard it said for years that Dave has been shockingly MORE successful in the North than anyone could imagine. The reason has been a bit of a running joke for decades about how "them northerners don't want to be told nothin' by them southerners." Surprisingly, it has worked. (Censored to keep from getting thrown off this board...)
Seems to me that makes him a youngster compared to Rush and other regular hosts in this format, no? The various replacements don't seem to be much younger.
Certainly! I mean his most loyal audience that has followed his show (and if smart, his advice) for a few decades are getting to the age where the ducks better be in a row or else it's sadly painful to listen. Imagine how painful it is to hear every day that you are now too damn old to prepare. I wouldn't listen! Would you?
(And for the record - I am surprised that he has lasted this long with the "same old advice." It's hard to get up every day and know the widgets are pretty much going to be the same vs. politics. I give Dave credit and he has certainly made the most of the multi-hour infimmerSial.)
(And for the record - I am surprised that he has lasted this long with the "same old advice." It's hard to get up every day and know the widgets are pretty much going to be the same vs. politics. I give Dave credit and he has certainly made the most of the multi-hour infimmerSial.)
My theory about this is giving the same old advice is what makes him popular. He is Mr. Rock Solid Dependable as your old Chevrolet. Some people want that kind of consistency. Plus, because people know what he's going to say, it's always interesting to hear how he applies that to the particular situation he's facing. As James Taylor said, I may be singing the same songs, but not to the exact same audience. So think of Dave as singing Fire & Rain for the 230 billionth time.
Tired Of It All
Banned
Trust me, Siegel has a HUGE following here in MA....as for Howie, he's some what of a drama queen (nowhere near as outrageous as kuhner) and he's constantly, constantly selling something and that seems to fit in the 3-7 slot quite well, Siegel OTOH is intelligent radio, no drama, no hysterical laughing, no name calling AND he always has interesting guests, ALWAYS.
Good but again when March of 2015 rolled around RKO didn't say, "Well, we could bring Howie back but Siegel's doing a great show..."
The ratings and perhaps earnings went down.Maybe Mike does well but for PM Drive RKO decided to bring back Howie.
The ratings and perhaps earnings went down.Maybe Mike does well but for PM Drive RKO decided to bring back Howie.
Yeah, I think their promos mention he's coming back to the Boston airwaves, but as you point out, that timeslot is the same as his nationally-syndicated timeslot, so I'm guessing it's not local.
Tired Of It All
Banned
That's because Howie appeals to a ahem, "different" audience, Siegel is more of an intellectual and if you listen to Howie you can see some of his callers aren't exactly on top of things....I don't have anything against Howie - I "heard" he approached RKO and asked for his job back - Siegel is a different animal, he appeals to a different audience and I agree, the ratings probably did go down because Howie's old audience didn't know what to make of Siegel....I hope he can somehow find a way to move into morning drive, the clowns in that slot are just the worst.....I don't listen to them but I've seen others post on FB how horrible they are...I'd rather listen to pigs squeal than those two!
To be fair though, Howie is a staple of broadcast radio in New England. Someone with access to the stats will know for sure, but I suspect when Howie “jumped ship”, he took a lot of his listening audience with him to the ‘howie Carr radio network’. Siegel, being out of Seattle, never really had a chance.
I think Siegel has built up a good following from his regular fill-ins for Krazy K0000nah.
>>That's because Howie appeals to a ahem, "different" audience
And, once more with feeling. What different audience is that?
Blue collar? Poorly educated? Deplorable?
Or people interested in Boston/Massachusetts politics...because there is nowhere else to tune for local politics (in PM Drive).
BTW...I listen....and I am not any of those things.
My bro is an VP of a Boston company and loves to listen to Howie...he's educated, an executive, makes good money (and very nice fellow)! ;-)
BTW...calling people you disagree with "deplorables" worked really well for Hillary in the last election. You might want to drop it.
I would say Howie's audience is: a.) Conservatives b.) Average Joes (not so much average Janes) c.) Older people who still listen to AM d.) Political junkies who can't get their fix on the radio in PM drive (Can't quite watch cable news in the car.)
- Status