WRKOLD Sues Howie

[Erie_Lackawanna]

Pahegian was fired by WBZ.

not quite - Pahigian (with two i's) left WBZ to become the VP/Programming&Operations for Sconnix Broadcasting, which is where he met up with Jim Cutler.

let your ire subside before posting anything else that could be considered slanderous, okay?

 

[Casablanca]

"Left" is in the eye of the beholder.

Pahegian was fired by WBZ.

not quite - Pahigian (with two i's) left WBZ to become the VP/Programming&Operations for Sconnix Broadcasting, which is where he met up with Jim Cutler.

let your ire subside before posting anything else that could be considered slanderous, okay?

 

[Erie_Lackawanna]

"Left" is in the eye of the beholder.

boy, you need help. Cary Pahigian - much to the HUGE surprise of everyone at the time, including his General Manager at WBZ, accepted the Sconnix position of his own accord. he was actually being groomed to take over the GM chair at Westinghouse's Boston operations. i know this as i worked for Pahigian's successor at Group W on Soldier's Field Rd and was told exactly that.

your hatred of the people involved in this particularly puzzling scenario, vis a vis - Howie to TKK and the potential for conflict of interest for Pahigian (in regards to his own Portland, Maine station carrying an afternoon show that may no longer exist in its current form due to the possible involvement of an "agent" helping a client to aquire a different positon/daypart) - is truly concerning. your admiration and caring for the late, great Dean (Jerry Williams) is duly noted. but crikey, boy - b.t.f.o. take a deep breath. a chill pill. have a sip o water or something.

 

[Casablanca]

Actually ridden the Erie Lackawanna... but who needs to chill here?
Cary's reputation "exceeds" him...

"Left" is in the eye of the beholder.

boy, you need help. Cary Pahigian - much to the HUGE surprise of everyone at the time, including his General Manager at WBZ, accepted the Sconnix position of his own accord. he was actually being groomed to take over the GM chair at Westinghouse's Boston operations. i know this as i worked for Pahigian's successor at Group W on Soldier's Field Rd and was told exactly that.

your hatred of the people involved in this particularly puzzling scenario, vis a vis - Howie to TKK and the potential for conflict of interest for Pahigian (in regards to his own Portland, Maine station carrying an afternoon show that may no longer exist in its current form due to the possible involvement of an "agent" helping a client to aquire a different positon/daypart) - is truly concerning. your admiration and caring for the late, great Dean (Jerry Williams) is duly noted. but crikey, boy - b.t.f.o. take a deep breath. a chill pill. have a sip o water or something.

 

[Erie_Lackawanna]

Actually ridden the Erie Lackawanna... but who needs to chill here?

you just can't stand to let someone else have the last word. sad. very sad. have a nice day.

 

[Casablanca]

It is night now, but I will

Actually ridden the Erie Lackawanna... but who needs to chill here?

you just can't stand to let someone else have the last word. sad. very sad. have a nice day.

 

[TSBench]

If you are coming to Casablanca for the waters at least spell it correctly.

Well, if he was coming to Casablanca for knowledge, he was misinformed.

Regards,
TSB

 

[wayneoliver]

I had the privilege of working for Cary at WIP in Philadelphia - during his early years. To this day I consider him one of the best programmers/managers for which I have ever worked. The people with complaints about Cary have either never worked for him, or were terrible at their jobs and called on it, or didn't like having to actually work for a change. Any quality broadcast professional, who has worked for Cary, appreciates his talent and abilities. It's only the lazy, complacent losers of the industry that complain and remain bitter years later. Move on.

I'd love to know what first hand experiences Casablanca had with Cary. 10 to 1 he won't be found in the "quality broadcast professional" category.

 

[Casablanca]

Never had the direct "pleasure" but mention his name and you will get a flood of negative responses in this community. Perhaps, it is unfair and unwarranted but it is as it is.

I had the privilege of working for Cary at WIP in Philadelphia - during his early years. To this day I consider him one of the best programmers/managers for which I have ever worked. The people with complaints about Cary have either never worked for him, or were terrible at their jobs and called on it, or didn't like having to actually work for a change. Any quality broadcast professional, who has worked for Cary, appreciates his talent and abilities. It's only the lazy, complacent losers of the industry that complain and remain bitter years later. Move on.

I'd love to know what first hand experiences Casablanca had with Cary. 10 to 1 he won't be found in the "quality broadcast professional" category.

 

[wayneoliver]

While anyone that's worked in any business in a management capacity for as long as Cary has, you're bound to have a handful of detractors. I know first hand a very long list of people in the business who have benefited by Cary's abilities, guidance and yes - kindness. You're spending your negative efforts on the wrong guy.

BTW: Allow me to set the record straight on few of your misperceptions. In the 80s, when Cary was in his mid twenties, he was recruited from WIP to resurrect WBZ - which had fallen on hard times. He did so so well that he was eventually courted by Sconix to a corporate position. WBZ never fired him. He was simply hired away. One more fact to correct. Cary was not the person who fired Brudnoy - in fact he's the one who hired him and remained very close to David until his death.

So, I think we all know, especially in this business, to judge people on what you know first hand and not on what you hear.

 

[Casablanca]

Good recommendations. Particularly glad to read that he did not fire Bruds. Wonder how WBZ allowed that in the first place.

While anyone that's worked in any business in a management capacity for as long as Cary has, you're bound to have a handful of detractors. I know first hand a very long list of people in the business who have benefited by Cary's abilities, guidance and yes - kindness. You're spending your negative efforts on the wrong guy.

BTW: Allow me to set the record straight on few of your misperceptions. In the 80s, when Cary was in his mid twenties, he was recruited from WIP to resurrect WBZ - which had fallen on hard times. He did so so well that he was eventually courted by Sconix to a corporate position. WBZ never fired him. He was simply hired away. One more fact to correct. Cary was not the person who fired Brudnoy - in fact he's the one who hired him and remained very close to David until his death.

So, I think we all know, especially in this business, to judge people on what you know first hand and not on what you hear.

 

[greenhead]

Interesting conversation. I do speak from personal experience: although no one can be all bad, there were times when the nasty little Mr. P came very close. He was the only perosn other than his sales manager who could live on the salary paid by Ernie Boch...and Cary was the one who cast the budget and made the deals...not Ernie. I do not know one person who has ever worked for Cary on the Cape who has much good to say about him and most have nothing good to say. The possible exceptions are two talk show hosts who are lucky to be employed by an English-speaking station and one sales manager. If Cary told me the day, date and time I would ask someone else for confirmation. Cheap?...Cary's opening line when taking someone to lunch, "Try the specials, they're great here." Followed by, "You don't want desert, do you?" He always raided the studios to find the morning papers...couldn't afford to buy them, poor dear..and they had been bought by the talk talent and/or newsroom crew out of their own funds. Cary Scrooginian.

Funny, he is sort of an WRKO partner because his Portland station carries Howie's show...but now we find that he has been acting as Hoewie's agent and 'business advisor' and presumably helping him make a deal with a cross-town rival while still making nice with Entercom. That's the Cary I know. This trial will be great theater. Some people use swords or spears...Cary uses a shaft. The two cruelst words in any language? Trust me.

 

[Keith321]

The people with complaints about Cary have either never worked for him, or were terrible at their jobs and called on it, or didn't like having to actually work for a change. It's only the lazy, complacent losers of the industry that complain and remain bitter years later.

Gee, would you consider Carl Desuze, Don Kent, Jack Tupper, Gary Lappiere and Jim Sands all "lazy complacent losers?"

I never heard them described that way.

 

[wayneoliver]

Gee, would you consider Carl Desuze, Don Kent, Jack Tupper, Gary Lappiere and Jim Sands all "lazy complacent losers?"

I never heard them described that way.

No. I certainly wouldn't put them in that category. However, with the exception of LaPierre, they represent talent that peaked back in the 70s or earlier - long before Cary entered the picture. They all were great talent during their era. But let's be honest - formats, programming philosophies and the times change and even the great ones are no longer effective. Curt Gowdy is a perfect example. How long beyond their prime should they be placated?

Now Gary LaPierre is a different story. Classy guy, great broadcaster and effective throughout his carreer. I really find it hard to believe that he had a problem with Pahigian.

 

[Keith321]

Gee, would you consider Carl Desuze, Don Kent, Jack Tupper, Gary Lappiere and Jim Sands all "lazy complacent losers?"

I never heard them described that way.

No. I certainly wouldn't put them in that category.

Well, you did put them in that category with that overreaching generalization.

Gee, would you consider Carl Desuze, Don Kent, Jack Tupper, Gary Lappiere and Jim Sands all "lazy complacent losers?"

I never heard them described that way.

.....they represent talent that peaked back in the 70s or earlier - long before Cary entered the picture. They all were great talent during their era. How long beyond their prime should they be placated?

Well that's how it is with Carey. Anyone older than him, anyone who has had more sucesses previously....is considered a threat.

Carey likes to surround himself with impressionable young nobodies that will do what he says and young nobodies who he makes sure don't know more than he...and can never be a threat to him. It's the sign of an immature manager.

Now, as far as being "great in their day" and expendable now.... If they had used that logic and got rid of Dave Maynard, he would've never had the chance to be the #1 morning show in Boston in the 80's.

Dave Maynard retired at his peak of popularity.

Now Gary LaPierre is a different story. Classy guy, great broadcaster and effective throughout his carreer. I really find it hard to believe that he had a problem with Pahigian.

Ask him. He certainly made his feelings known at the time.

BTW....Gary started in 1964...when did HE "peak"?

 

[johnster]

I'd love to know what first hand experiences Casablanca had with Cary. 10 to 1 he won't be found in the "quality broadcast professional" category.

This has never stopped Cassy before why would you think it would stop him now? There are many folks on here who have had the pleasure of working with Howie and Jerry. But we wouldn't bother trying to tell you Howie is a very nice guy in real life because these waters are so tainted with his venom that there just really isn't any point. It's really kind of sad that these boards are almost run by these two bitter individuals who keep so many folks on the sidelines because of all the hatred. Just always remember there is another side to all of this.

 

[raccoonradio]

Have met Howie a couple times and from the few minutes I spent talking to him he seemed nice. Some
disagree with his politics and/or feel he shafted his mentor, Jerry, so thus the bad feelings about him.

 

[jimcutler]

Howie has an easy going manner, a killer sense of humor, and doesn't have the slightest air of arrogance. He is incredibly bright and has ba$$s of steel to calmly take on the gangsters he often goes after. He's a genuinely nice guy. Does he suffer fools gladly? No. But that's another reason to like him.

So much venom here by anonymous posters.

 

[PennBlue]

I agree with Cutler....Howie, I am told, is a fine person. He has put his life on the line with his writings and on air discussions regarding the "mob". He will do great things over at the FM talker.
I think I speak for most on this board when I say that there is no love lost for Entercom and the way it treats its empoyees. Just look at the quality news folks who were tossed out the door just before the holidays, with no health bennies and very little severance. One the union was busted (whitemore and wolfe and Ms Gallo did that) it was time to thin the expenses...but at what cost? No one listens to WRKO or WEEI for news. Heck no one listens to WRKO for anything, except the Red Sox. I hear, by the way, that several board operators and producers are going with Howie across town. Who will be left there ? A former receptionist who is scheduling washed up talk hosts and recent HS grads to run the board.

 

[Casablanca]

Thanks for confirming all the stories I have heard about Cary Pahigian.
He fits the image others have described.

Interesting conversation. I do speak from personal experience: although no one can be all bad, there were times when the nasty little Mr. P came very close. He was the only perosn other than his sales manager who could live on the salary paid by Ernie Boch...and Cary was the one who cast the budget and made the deals...not Ernie. I do not know one person who has ever worked for Cary on the Cape who has much good to say about him and most have nothing good to say. The possible exceptions are two talk show hosts who are lucky to be employed by an English-speaking station and one sales manager. If Cary told me the day, date and time I would ask someone else for confirmation. Cheap?...Cary's opening line when taking someone to lunch, "Try the specials, they're great here." Followed by, "You don't want desert, do you?" He always raided the studios to find the morning papers...couldn't afford to buy them, poor dear..and they had been bought by the talk talent and/or newsroom crew out of their own funds. Cary Scrooginian.

Funny, he is sort of an WRKO partner because his Portland station carries Howie's show...but now we find that he has been acting as Hoewie's agent and 'business advisor' and presumably helping him make a deal with a cross-town rival while still making nice with Entercom. That's the Cary I know. This trial will be great theater. Some people use swords or spears...Cary uses a shaft. The two cruelst words in any language? Trust me.