WRXP Ratings / PPM

[lalumia]

I believe it's still up on Amazon if you look for the CD which is also called "Max's Kansas City 1976-Various Artists, which features Wayne County alongside tracks from other legends of that era like Suicide,Pere Ubu, and the previously mentioned Cherry Vanilla; and Matt should have it in his collection since the original late 70s WPIX FM (Mark Simone,Jane Hamberger,etc) played the "Max's' track in regular rotation and Matt used to listen to the station back in the day
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/im...?ie=UTF8&n=5174&s=music&qid=1219796564&sr=1-1

 

[p_herring]

I was back in CT this weekend and listened to RXP a bit. It's really frustrating because it HAS so much potential to be good (even great). But then, they completely blow it by playing the likes of Matchbox 20's "Bright Lights" (which never even charted on rock charts, only on Hot AC) and classic rock which has been drilled into our skulls for the past 30+ years. I give them kudos for playing Vampire Weekend, The National, The Kooks, etc. and I don't even mind them mixing it with more mainstream alternative/rock acts but a station with this broad of a focus is just not going to work.

 

[lalumia]

the focus, based on their initial debut, has to be on the NY rock scene, then and now,which is where my suggestions are coming from;
when they establish that, they can then pepper in the other ingredients that they use

 

[p_herring]

the focus, based on their initial debut, has to be on the NY rock scene, then and now,which is where my suggestions are coming from;
when they establish that, they can then pepper in the other ingredients that they use

Why? You need to attract more than aging NYC scenesters and record store clerks to keep a commercial FM station in market #1 afloat.

 

[hamNcheese]

WLIR NEVER played The Dolls, County, Stooges or Vanilla(or Psychotic Frogs,for that matter) .....just wimpy New Wave Dance records...THAT'S why WLIR is OFF the air...LOL

Oh Jimi. Nice way to slip in the plug. Thats the record that the needle played from the inside out right?

Still Rockin' in Ronkonkoma?

 

[hamNcheese]

the original "Max's Kansas City 1976" track by Wayne County is such a classic NY rock sign post ,name checking all the bands that came out of the late 70s NY rock scene and celebrating NY as the place where it all happens, this track REALLY belongs in the mix for 'cred' purposes(and it's a great, involving song)

That particular song is only available on a now out-of-print Rhino compilation of the late '70s New York punk scene. However, you might have a shot at hearing something by Lance Loud and the Mumps.

Oh Im sure lalumia has a copy around somewhere it anybody needs it.

 

[lalumia]

groupies and stalkers everywhere,gotta luv it; actually, the 1978 Psychotic Frogs version of "Wipeout"(flip side of "Death To Disco") would probably fit right in....

 

[lalumia]

Why? You need to attract more than aging NYC scenesters and record store clerks to keep a commercial FM station in market #1 afloat.

because you need something resembling a base(ask Bush) and right now, they don't have one...you build from the base, make it attractive...

 

[hamNcheese]

Dude...RXP uses SBR consulting out of Boulder colorado. From what I have seen they are...not too good. They def are not in touch with what NYers want from a station. (Look at the what they put together in Los Angeles with 100.3 The Sound. Check out those ratings, you think RXP is having problems.) They are cookie cutter. While it may work in Mini-soda...it doesnt seem to work too many other places.

Looking at their client listing...I understand why AAA and Alternatives are having trouble all across the country. I also see they program similar stations, for the different companies, in the same markets. (or maybe some of them have been flipped and are gone...which only further proves my point). Charleston S.C. for example, and both the AAA/ Alt stations they are involved with there are dogs as well.

I would consider this to be a conflict of interest. Owners and or mgmt that allow this to happen...well, I think its assinine at best. At worst???? :-[

 

[MarkO]

SBR as consultants, plus Leslie Fram as WRXP program director—basically we’re looking at a mainstream, ‘white bread’ type of operation, originating from people with very conventional backgrounds in commercial radio. I agree with Lalumia’s arguments entirely, but it seems highly unlikely that anything revolutionary will be forthcoming from that programming team.

A similar SBR-consulted effort to put an ‘RXP-like format on WTGB (‘The Globe’) in the DC area has failed, and that station recently dropped most of its slightly edgier and newer music, and shifted back to its previous Classic Rock programming. Of course, a similar transition probably won’t happen in NYC due to the existing position of WAXQ.

 

[lalumia]

they still apply these 'formula' approaches as if the radio audience is still the 'captive'(which it once was);
the captive has been set free by new technology, and 'formulas' ain't getting them back, not now, not evah...

 

[lalumia]

by the way, the following is my most recent post to the "CBSFM 70" thread above,which I feel has some relevance to the choice of programming on RXP and what those choices are Based on;


The Velvet Underground didn't sell a lot of records or get airplay, but their cumulative image/influence on direction was enormous, and you may know 13 million hits between 2 BC and 2008, but you don't understand the difference between POPULARITY(selling a lot,being heard and liked for a while like the prom queen for a year) and INFLUENCE(not being the prom queen but going on to rule the universe in decades that follow;
Patti Smith had one top 40 hit and was dismissed as a punk rock cast off but there's a new motion picture about her playing East and West coast, numerous books, and people like Michael Stipe of REM (who sold a few records, I hear)who claim her as a major influence
......The New York Dolls got no radio airplay or sales in their day but GUNS N ROSES(who sold a few records), when they recorded an album of their influences(The Spaghetti Incident), included a track by The Dolls and a track by solo Dolls member Johnny Thunders,claiming The Dolls as a major force of their creation;
the same is true of Morrissey(major hit maker in the UK), former leader of The Smiths(seminal 80s band) who recently forced a NY Dolls reunion(of the survivors) crediting them with his very existence...
I haven't seen a Debbie Boone film making the rounds,or 19 books about David Gates and Bread in the racks lately;
there is a very big diffrence between (lasting) influence and (temporary) popularity

 

[NoMoreLurking]

Gonna Hitch A Ride

So then would RXP's nearly hourly homages to Boston be due to the band's temporary (70's) popularity or lasting (eternal) influence? :-\

 

[lalumia]

who have they influenced? The Jonas Brothers? Bands like Boston are part of the formula; Boston fans are listening to them on their ipods
they have no interest in radio,and I don't think that Boston has any contemprary legacy,if they do, please clue me in

 

[NoMoreLurking]

...it was sarcasm...........

 

[lalumia]

i know

 

[AMraydio]

so what you people are saying is that even with Pinfield programming half of his shift with cool records, you STILL aren't happy?

 

[hamNcheese]

so what you people are saying is that even with Pinfield programming half of his shift with cool records, you STILL aren't happy?

Ya know, I was thinking that this past weekend. With Pinfields deep knowledge of music and more specifically the NY scene...why dont they just give him the keys to the car and let him drive?

 

[neo11]

so what you people are saying is that even with Pinfield programming half of his shift with cool records, you STILL aren't happy?

It's what is played on the other half, plus the rest of the day, that's the problem.

 

[NoMoreLurking]

RXP has more meddling consultants and wanna-be armchair PD's than they have listeners. THAT'S the problem.

"That was Boston (again), and next up...Styx, because they test well."