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WYSP to drop FreeFM moniker

Don and Mike were about as well liked as David Lee Roth. Station morale was at record lows when they assumed afternoons.
 
draven said:
Don and Mike were about as well liked as David Lee Roth. Station morale was at record lows when they assumed afternoons.

If the station wanted to continue in an Active Rock direction, D&M probably weren't the best fit for that. Their show is rooted in Top 40 radio, whereas shows like Stern, O&A, and even Kidd Chris are rooted more in AOR radio. That would be why the people who actually work at the station didn't like them. (Whose opinions, of course, are not the point). But to say their ratings performance was akin to DLR's is simply a ridiculous exaggeration.

Their ratings in NYC were akin to DLR's. Their ratings in Philadelphia were not.
 
Actually,

I knew a gal who use to sell for WYSP,and D&M had big numbers. Sabian dropped the ball big time.
 
To answer the last two posts, I wasn't implying their numbers were like DLR; I was implying that throughout their tenure at the station, they simply weren't well liked from within. Discount it for what it's worth, but as you said, D&M wouldn't have done anything in the market and something else (for better or worse) would have had to be tried.
 
If "you" is me, I didn't say that. I said they didn't fit an Active Rock format, and that that was the source of their not being liked "from within." I think, despite that, they would have continued to get ratings in Philadelphia on WYSP, despite not fitting the Rock format to a tee. Would they have set the town on fire? Maybe not. Would they have rated better than the music with which they were replaced? Probably. I think the numbers showed that they did.

Tim Sabean used to micromanage the hell out of the show, screaming at Don not to play cheesy 70s pop for bumper music because it didn't fit the format of WYSP. Cheesy 70s pop is funny, and a lot of their show is, at the same time, poking fun at and paying homage to 70s and 80s pop radio. People who listen to rock aren't going to recoil in horror at a piece of disco bumper music played for laughs.
 
I dont know about anyone else, but i was able to load their website (the old free formatted one) a second ago and now its taking forever to load (and i dont have the patience to find out the site), so perhaps the new site is here?

And for the logo, wow, i wasnt expecting them to go all out and incorporate anything "talk" into the logo. They must be somewhat confident in it.

Boss302 said:
Rockin Rob said:
Liked D&M. Like O&A. D&M are not O&A.
O&k! =ok
I wish the YSP would just go back to rock and leave the talk to the AM dial.

I remember before Free scanning the AM dial for some interesting talk radio to listen to, and all i got was bored to death. Call it immature (in some people's opinions) but i was looking for Stern all day. ENTERTAING talk, not depressing politics, not zzzzz sports, something "shocking", something funny. Philly finally got it with Free, and so far, i likey.
 
So, they didn't put the ".1" in the logo, and they did put the word "talk." No mention of "the talk that rocks" on the web site either. They must be fairly committed to the talk format. They're kind of stuck because of 104.5 flipping to Alternative. I know there used to be Y-100 and MMR and YSP all at the same time, but I'm not sure the city can support MMR, 104.5 and YSP all playing some variant of Active/Alternative rock.
 
Well, I hope everybody enjoyed the information on the changeover. I know some were initially skeptical because of rumor mongers in months past, but hopefully faith has been somewhat restored in information posted here regarding such things :) If I have anything in the future, I'll be sure to pass it along here!
 
aindik said:
but I'm not sure the city can support MMR, 104.5 and YSP all playing some variant of Active/Alternative rock.

Why Not, theres 4 F****** channels that play rap 98.9 96.5 100.3 102.1, and i guess i'll throw 93.7 and 94.5 in there too, even though they dont touch too much of the full blown rap. they are the only 2 i can stand to listen to.

if there are 4 rap channels there CAN be 3 rock channels. and even if ppl dont consider 102.1 rap, its still 3 rap, and there could still be 3 rock stations. actually now that i think of it 102.9 is a rock station too (classic rock is still rock music), so we rock fans have 3 stations as of now, and the hip-hop fans have 6 they can listen to. if wysp goes back to full time rock, that will be on of the best things that can happen.
 
draven said:
Well, I hope everybody enjoyed the information on the changeover. I know some were initially skeptical because of rumor mongers in months past, but hopefully faith has been somewhat restored in information posted here regarding such things :) If I have anything in the future, I'll be sure to pass it along here!

What information? You made a very blanket statement at a time where Free FMs across the country were already flipping. You made a blanket statement that was eventually going to happen.

Im not trying to start crap or anything, but something like that is not exactly praise-worthy.
 
eyg2181 said:
Why Not, theres 4 F****** channels that play rap 98.9 96.5 100.3 102.1, and i guess i'll throw 93.7 and 94.5 in there too, even though they dont touch too much of the full blown rap. they are the only 2 i can stand to listen to.

Hip hop fans are listening to WSTW? Really?

Can't wait to check out Delaware Ave. this weekend and see how many people in their teens and 20's are listening to WSTW with the windows rolled down.
 
eyg2181 said:
theres 4 F****** channels that play rap 98.9 96.5 100.3 102.1, and i guess i'll throw 93.7 and 94.5 in there too, even though they dont touch too much of the full blown rap.

When did RunWithScissors start posting under another username? :)
 
eatspaste said:
eyg2181 said:
Why Not, theres 4 F****** channels that play rap 98.9 96.5 100.3 102.1, and i guess i'll throw 93.7 and 94.5 in there too, even though they dont touch too much of the full blown rap. they are the only 2 i can stand to listen to.

Hip hop fans are listening to WSTW? Really?

Can't wait to check out Delaware Ave. this weekend and see how many people in their teens and 20's are listening to WSTW with the windows rolled down.

Come On PST and STW are like the same freakin station, even with those 2 eliminated from the list, the hiphop fans still have 4.

i take it your a hip hop fan to.
 
eyg2181 said:
Come On PST and STW are like the same freakin station, even with those 2 eliminated from the list, the hiphop fans still have 4.

i take it your a hip hop fan to.

alright mister, we'll get off your lawn
 
Yeeeeah boy, you know when it comes to having ghetto cred on the radio, it don't get no better than Jill Quale in da mornin', yo.
 
eyg2181 said:
eatspaste said:
eyg2181 said:
Why Not, theres 4 F****** channels that play rap 98.9 96.5 100.3 102.1, and i guess i'll throw 93.7 and 94.5 in there too, even though they dont touch too much of the full blown rap. they are the only 2 i can stand to listen to.

Hip hop fans are listening to WSTW? Really?

Can't wait to check out Delaware Ave. this weekend and see how many people in their teens and 20's are listening to WSTW with the windows rolled down.

Come On PST and STW are like the same freakin station, even with those 2 eliminated from the list, the hiphop fans still have 4.

i take it your a hip hop fan to.

PST and STW (and Q102) both play both rock and rap tracks (in addition to the pop and R&B tracks they also play). Either you count them in both piles or in neither. It makes the math easier when you don't count them in a discussion about how many hip hop versus rock stations there are.

And, who says there should be equal hip hop and rock stations? You're assuming those genres have equal audience numbers and demographics.
 
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