Ya' Know What's Wrong With Talkradio?

[cm454]

I just read this big news:

WIN 98.5 Becomes News/Talk!

MIDWEST COMMUNICATIONS Country WINH (WIN 98.5)/TERRE HAUTE has flipped formats. As of MIDNIGHT, they became TERRE HAUTE's NEWS/TALK 98.5 WIBQ.

While that's very exciting, here is their brand new lineup!

12-6a - COAST TO COAST AM
6-9a - BILL BENNETT
9a-12p - DAVE RAMSEY
12-3p - RUSH LIMBAUGH
3-6p - SEAN HANNITY
6-9p - MARK LEVIN
9p-12a - MICHAEL SAVAGE


This is some bit of news!

Nice to see that more talent hatchlings are in the pipeline, being nurtured on the farm, so one day they can entertain millions after they have blossomed!

 

[Signal_Faded]

In this day of cost cutting it will become the norm. Thinking ahead ten years you may not need a transmitter to reach most of the public...an internet stream is all you will need and there will be talent in abundance there.

 

[cm454]

In this day of cost cutting it will become the norm. Thinking ahead ten years you may not need a transmitter to reach most of the public...an internet stream is all you will need and there will be talent in abundance there.

There is a faction of people who believe what you say. I am not one of them.

Internet streaming is nowhere'sville.

Wanna get lost in a sea of horrible/amateur "broadcasters"? Do an "internet radio show". Fast track to nowhere.

Maybe people don't understand the extreme splintering, maybe they don't understand the dynamics of a top drawer show, maybe they are just deluded into buying into the streaming hype. I don't know why some have bought into this, but I laugh at the speculation that the internet is the fertile ground where all the future talent will come from.

It's ridiculous. Give a listen and use some discretion. You'll want to vomit when you hear what is out there.

 

[DaleGriffin]

In this day of cost cutting it will become the norm. Thinking ahead ten years you may not need a transmitter to reach most of the public...an internet stream is all you will need and there will be talent in abundance there.

There is a faction of people who believe what you say. I am not one of them.

Internet streaming is nowhere'sville.

Wanna get lost in a sea of horrible/amateur "broadcasters"? Do an "internet radio show". Fast track to nowhere.

Maybe people don't understand the extreme splintering, maybe they don't understand the dynamics of a top drawer show, maybe they are just deluded into buying into the streaming hype. I don't know why some have bought into this, but I laugh at the speculation that the internet is the fertile ground where all the future talent will come from.

It's ridiculous. Give a listen and use some discretion. You'll want to vomit when you hear what is out there.

Better yet... name one who has crossed over.

 

[justareporter]

You know what's wrong with Talk Radio? Programmers (if there are any left) who think a national gab show is the same as a local talk show....

And consolidators who don't know the difference between real radio and food.

 

[Don62]

Well-stated.

Like the big out-of-state corporation that recently cleared out the news dept. of the talk station Dale works for.

The station's owners apparently don't know how, or aren't interested in, programming radio.
Because listeners want local information,not just national news in between endless national shows.

What the he-- do they think Dale's on the air for? Wouldn't listeners, by the brain-dead owners' reasoning, just as easily get their day's info from some national a.m. host?

I'm curious if that station ownership also gutted some sales people, as that would make as much sense also. Kill your workers, see profits and rating fall.

 

[DaleGriffin]

Well-stated.

Like the big out-of-state corporation that recently cleared out the news dept. of the talk station Dale works for.

The station's owners apparently don't know how, or aren't interested in, programming radio.
Because listeners want local information,not just national news in between endless national shows.

What the he-- do they think Dale's on the air for? Wouldn't listeners, by the brain-dead owners' reasoning, just as easily get their day's info from some national a.m. host?

I'm curious if that station ownership also gutted some sales people, as that would make as much sense also. Kill your workers, see profits and rating fall.

AND we are back to me...

Did you mean to underline out of state corporation?

What is the point of that emphasis?

Get back on topic.

 

[Don62]

You figure it out. See what that monster corp. that has kicked many announcers, DJs, news reporters, talk hosts, etc. out of the doors lately in many markets.
That "broadcasting company" could care less about the industry and only wants what's best for its bottom line. Period.

"I make my money and to h--- with you." "You cost too much." "We don't need people here." "Computers will do this just fine."

Read about some of the purges in the different city boards on this forum. Many long-time and beloved hosts were let go just this past month. Then read about listener reactions saying how they will never listen to the crummy radio station anymore.

And you want to defend this practice?

 

[Don62]

It's all ready happening at Cumulus Topeka. Rose Diehl who has been with the company for over 28 years was let go last Friday, the NEW morning guy that just started on Jan. 17th this year, was let go this week, and a morning talk show host was let go today, plus their part-timers where asked to work at minimum wage. Oh, I believe one sales guy was let go. But, there is suppose to be more let go over the next few days. Has there been any more layoffs at Cumulus Kansas City?

Rose Diehl was a long-time midday host and PD at the leading AC station, KMAJ-FM, Majic 108.

 

[DaleGriffin]

It's all ready happening at Cumulus Topeka. Rose Diehl who has been with the company for over 28 years was let go last Friday, the NEW morning guy that just started on Jan. 17th this year, was let go this week, and a morning talk show host was let go today, plus their part-timers where asked to work at minimum wage. Oh, I believe one sales guy was let go. But, there is suppose to be more let go over the next few days. Has there been any more layoffs at Cumulus Kansas City?

Rose Diehl was a long-time midday host and PD at the leading AC station, KMAJ-FM, Majic 108.

I'm well aware of whats going on in this industry AND EVERY OTHER INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW. It sucks, I watched friends get fired two weeks ago, I like everyone else worry about my job everyday.

Who is defending that? No one.

Quit projecting and get back on topic.

 

[ctkatz]

In this day of cost cutting it will become the norm. Thinking ahead ten years you may not need a transmitter to reach most of the public...an internet stream is all you will need and there will be talent in abundance there.

There is a faction of people who believe what you say. I am not one of them.

Internet streaming is nowhere'sville.

Wanna get lost in a sea of horrible/amateur "broadcasters"? Do an "internet radio show". Fast track to nowhere.

Maybe people don't understand the extreme splintering, maybe they don't understand the dynamics of a top drawer show, maybe they are just deluded into buying into the streaming hype. I don't know why some have bought into this, but I laugh at the speculation that the internet is the fertile ground where all the future talent will come from.

It's ridiculous. Give a listen and use some discretion. You'll want to vomit when you hear what is out there.

i think that internet radio is going to be the future, however i also believe that it's never going to take off if broadband internet doesn't have more penetration in the rural areas or some sort of system where you get streaming internet in your car.

i think that the reason i think internet radio will be the future and you don't is that i really don't think it will matter eventually if said talent online gets popular enough to cross over or go mainstream. there are going to be literally millions of niche audiences and i think that there will be the requisite number of talk personalities to fill them. speaking for myself only, i find myself lately listening to a lot more shows from people who have no outlet in the traditional media market than i do those who are broadcast sometime somewhere. the reason for this is because of media consolidation, and the little local radio that there is available to me doesn't appeal to me. i'm probably not alone in thinking like this.

 

[cm454]

i really don't think it will matter eventually if said talent online gets popular enough to cross over or go mainstream. there are going to be literally millions of niche audiences and i think that there will be the requisite number of talk personalities to fill them.

You realize how absurd this scenario is, don't you? The programming you're describing will be more or less non-profit, and that's not by design.

Do you think talent, the better talent, does this for kicks? Do you think it's a hobby? Do you think they are independantly wealthy?

No real talent will be a part of that mix you describe for long. All you'll have is a bunch of wannabes who will not do a show when they're not in the mood, or are sick, or are busy doing something else.

Doing a talkradio show is work---a lot of work if you're any good. You don't get good by jerking around doing a little internet "radio" show.

Everybody thinks they're a visionary on this subject. Instead they just sound uninformed.

 

[Don62]

It's all ready happening at Cumulus Topeka. Rose Diehl who has been with the company for over 28 years was let go last Friday, the NEW morning guy that just started on Jan. 17th this year, was let go this week, and a morning talk show host was let go today, plus their part-timers where asked to work at minimum wage. Oh, I believe one sales guy was let go. But, there is suppose to be more let go over the next few days. Has there been any more layoffs at Cumulus Kansas City?

Rose Diehl was a long-time midday host and PD at the leading AC station, KMAJ-FM, Majic 108.

I'm well aware of whats going on in this industry AND EVERY OTHER INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW. It sucks, I watched friends get fired two weeks ago, I like everyone else worry about my job everyday.

Who is defending that? No one.

Quit projecting and get back on topic.

Dale,
This is one of the problems with Talk Radio and Radio in General - It's ownership has little clue on how to run broadcasting.

That's my opinion and I don't care if you don't like it.

 

[DaleGriffin]

It's all ready happening at Cumulus Topeka. Rose Diehl who has been with the company for over 28 years was let go last Friday, the NEW morning guy that just started on Jan. 17th this year, was let go this week, and a morning talk show host was let go today, plus their part-timers where asked to work at minimum wage. Oh, I believe one sales guy was let go. But, there is suppose to be more let go over the next few days. Has there been any more layoffs at Cumulus Kansas City?

Rose Diehl was a long-time midday host and PD at the leading AC station, KMAJ-FM, Majic 108.

I'm well aware of whats going on in this industry AND EVERY OTHER INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW. It sucks, I watched friends get fired two weeks ago, I like everyone else worry about my job everyday.

Who is defending that? No one.

Quit projecting and get back on topic.

Dale,
This is one of the problems with Talk Radio and Radio in General - It's ownership has little clue on how to run broadcasting.

That's my opinion and I don't care if you don't like it.

What? All Isaid is stop assuming you know what I think. If you care... ask.

 

[FTL_Ian]

Don, just curious, how many talk radio stations have you run?

 

[FTL_Ian]

I'm not defending the big players' policies, as I've worked for Clear Channel and know how big and bureaucratic they were. Sure enough, they got too big and unwieldy and came tumbling down eventually - selling lots of stations and going private.

Of course, if there were no FCC, there'd be real competition in radio, and slipshod operations would be out of business much faster.

Don's earlier comment was:

That "broadcasting company" could care less about the industry and only wants what's best for its bottom line. Period.

I'd say jump in, compete, and do it better. However, lucky for that big corporation their buddy the FCC will step in, like any good mafia protection racket, and stop you. Unless you pay the bribes (application and various other FCC "fees").

 

[Don62]

Don, just curious, how many talk radio stations have you run?

Tell me, Ian, keeping an $8 million bonus while [bl]loads of employees are being fired right and left[/b] sounds important to you?
You call that broadcasting?

And for Dale, please tell us why you, as PD of that crummy station owned by an even worse corporation, decided to gut the entire news dept
Isn't news broadcast throughout the day, not just in the early a.m. like your show?
That was your call, as PD, right?

Dale, there are scores of national hosts that could fill your slot better than you, yet none that could do the same for your local radio news.

How is your show more important than the rest of the day?

 

[FTL_Ian]

Don, what we have today is an extremely restricted marketplace in radio. The players are limited by the violent monopolist known as the federal government. Therefore, competition is limited. That means jobs are less available and less desirable (PDs running multiple stations, etc). It also means fewer choices are available on the band for the listener.

It's because of the FCC that radio appears to move in slow motion compared to new media. If you want to save radio, the parasitic FCC must go.

 

[FTL_Ian]

Additionally, more competition would mean a lower profit for the existing players, as well as different compensation plans for executives. Indeed, perhaps even completely different station organizational structures.

 

[del_griffith]

Don, what we have today is an extremely restricted marketplace in radio. The players are limited by the violent monopolist known as the federal government. Therefore, competition is limited. That means jobs are less available and less desirable (PDs running multiple stations, etc). It also means fewer choices are available on the band for the listener.

It's because of the FCC that radio appears to move in slow motion compared to new media. If you want to save radio, the parasitic FCC must go.

I thought that "violent monopolist" known as the federal government regulated the allocation of frequencies to maximize players while minimizing interference. In other words, someone had to be the traffic cop.

The limited number of owners was intensified when all the little rim shots that were allowed in the 80's and 90's were able to cash in and sell to the bigger fish. Years ago, a new allocation application had to show how they could operationally sustain themselves in the city of license. That no longer seems to be a requirement as many of those cities of license can barely sustain the local carryout.

So instead of multiple voices, we get the lesser signals flanking the major signals with a similar menu of product.

As for the other problem with talk radio? Talk radio has become the equal of trial lawyers in the broadcast medium. The only people getting rich on the ideology circuit are those who stir it up and then talk and write about it. Talk radio, whether liberal or conservative have become the equals of the Jesse Jackson's and Al Sharpton's. A lot of instigative chatter.