You could call me a 9--4--5 freak Pt. 1

[lovejamminoldies]

Push comes to shove, you can't make much money off of WDKF anyways. Why sell? Why did CC hire Mark Anderson to brand manage if they weren't going to keep it? Why not use Drake as much as they can for as cheap as they can, not name a PD to save money, and save money all while flanking for MIX? Sell off Lite and Smooth, and call it a day. In the long run that would save them the most money when it comes to meeting budgets.

Wow.

So, let me get this straight: you can't make much money from a small-stick station, so you want to keep it; you think they should dump the big-stick, excellent-qualitatives, massively-profitable, number one station in town, instead. You think it's better to save some thousands in expenses than to have many millions in revenue.

Okay.

"Lose the keeper, keep the loser." Just wanted to see if I had that straight.

Wow.

Like I said, there's never been a more ridiculous bunch of posts. Can't there be some rule limiting fanboys posting ridiculous stuff and making the rest of us have to wade through it? You kids should stop posting and start listening. Instead of constantly offering your "all stations need to be rhythmic" opinions, ask some questions and then wait for the answers.

Wow. Nice insult. You should really lose your dayjob and be a comedian. One that talks about kids and gets tomatoes thrown at him.

 

[alans613]

Man, selling off 'LQT would be a complete, utter disaster for CC, and make the Titanic sinking look like a game of Battleship. ;D Seriously, 'LQT did an 11.5 in the latest Winter Trend. They are the #1 station in town. I believe the fact that 94.5/'DKF/Whatever we're calling ourselves this week is a flanker and DOES indeed protect 'MMX-true. However, 'MMX is a good enough station to survive on its own against Z. Z isn't the powerhouse that John King built it to be in the 80s and early to mid 90s. CHR is in a rut right now anyhow, with most people turned off by the rap that permeates Z and Channel's airwaves. Hot AC is doing pretty well right now. AC is doing great as well. My bet is CC sells off 103.9 and moves 'XEG to 94.5, as well as selling 106.5. I sure as hell don't see CC selling ratings powerhouses like 'LQT, 'MMX, and 'TUE. Selling any of those three would be a complete mistake on CC's part.

 

[KevinFodor]

You forget, WLQT gets it's big numbers from All-Christmas music, which holds over until about February or March, then goes away, once the December trend comes off the rolling average. The station was in the
5 or 6 share range for most of the year last year. A player? Certainly because of its' at work numbers. Not a market-dominant station, except for one book a year.

Listening levels from stations most often affected by All-Christmas music began to show a return to normal in the last trend.

You're right about one thing. CHR is in the dumper right now. And, there are things Z could do that might help. But, with the Radio One/Dayton stations supposedly up for sale, they're not going to do anything they don't have to do.

 

[jaddy5400]

With all that said, I was just stating that CC only cares about money. That's why they would sell off the 3rd highest money making station in there cluster, because they would actually make a bundle for it. This would allow them to put more time and sales into WMMX and WTUE which are theie 2 main priorities. 3rd would be The X, Channel, Smooth Jazz, & ONE. I bet that they don't sell off anything, but if they did Lite would be one of them. No need for name calling buddy, who's the real kid? Seems like you have a little growing up to do.

 

[DaytonRadio]

With all that said, I was just stating that CC only cares about money. That's why they would sell off the 3rd highest money making station in there cluster, because they would actually make a bundle for it. This would allow them to put more time and sales into WMMX and WTUE which are theie 2 main priorities. 3rd would be The X, Channel, Smooth Jazz, & ONE. I bet that they don't sell off anything, but if they did Lite would be one of them. No need for name calling buddy, who's the real kid? Seems like you have a little growing up to do.

no no and no, clear channel HAS to sell of two FM stations, they aren't doing this to make money, they're doing because they HAVE to. There is no real good reason why they WOULDN'T sell off "Channel" and "Smooth Jazz". One is a rimshot and the other is weak and low rated. And why in Gods name would they sell Lite?! It's the MARKET LEADING station for crying out loud!

I understand you people don't want to see channel go.. but lets be realistic!

again, cc isn't selling for money, they are selling because they HAVE to.

..consider the dead horse beaten

 

[alans613]

With all that said, I was just stating that CC only cares about money. That's why they would sell off the 3rd highest money making station in there cluster, because they would actually make a bundle for it. This would allow them to put more time and sales into WMMX and WTUE which are theie 2 main priorities. 3rd would be The X, Channel, Smooth Jazz, & ONE. I bet that they don't sell off anything, but if they did Lite would be one of them. No need for name calling buddy, who's the real kid? Seems like you have a little growing up to do.

no no and no, clear channel HAS to sell of two FM stations, they aren't doing this to make money, they're doing because they HAVE to. There is no real good reason why they WOULDN'T sell off "Channel" and "Smooth Jazz". One is a rimshot and the other is weak and low rated. And why in Gods name would they sell Lite?! It's the MARKET LEADING station for crying out loud!

I understand you people don't want to see channel go.. but lets be realistic!

again, cc isn't selling for money, they are selling because they HAVE to.

..consider the dead horse beaten ;D

I couldn't agree any more with the above statements. Lite, Mix, and 'TUE are market leaders-and huge 50,000 watt sticks to boot. Let's face it, the next dominant CC station is 'XEG, which usually brings in a 4-5 share. The rest are dust in the wind-Channel usually does a 2 share, and then the rest of the remaining CC stations 12+ share goes down from there(I am going by 12+ because that's what I have access to). Smooth Jazz and WONE/WIZE are the other two low-rated CC stations, but from what I understand, CC has to sell two FMs, not any AM signals. My bet is for this: 103.9's signal gets sold, Channel gets dumped off 94.5 for 'XEG, and 106.5 gets sold to (Most likely) Radio One.

 

[kentuckymedia]

You got it brotha!

While we all may want Channel to stick it through....its gone. Like it or not, its toast.

Clear Channel is making millions off LITE, MIX, TUE and XEG. They are maybe making 2 or 3 combined with CHANNEL and SMOOTH. They just dont care in the end about those 2 signals.

Radio One is moving in 101.5 to sell it. Country is not their MO in any fashion, neither is Top 40 (see WDJX gonna get dumped). They will keep HOT, SOUL and probably the AM's for a Gospel Format of some kind. Then I bet, they will pick up 106.5.

Cox will come in and save the day for Z93, they want it more than you could imagine.

What will happen to 101.5? Your best guess is just that. No one knows.... XEG moves to 94.5 and Saga buys 103.9, shuts it down...buys 103.9 from North American and swaps it for 103.5 and boosts the little signal that could in Westerville. Getting rid of the Smooth Jazz and Talk sandwich that has plagued Columbus for the few recent years.

Call it a day

 

[jaddy5400]

You guys have great imaginations! They DON'T HAVE TO SELL ANYTHING. Has the radio god said "sell off 2 stations or die?"!!! You guys in the business? I would love to know your names if you are, because statements like that require names! Sad, sad, sad. Where are your so called facts coming from? You guys should all be GM's or OM's, or PD's!!!! Lets call it a day for you!

 

[microbob]

Clear Channel Announces Plan to Sell Radio Stations Outside the Top 100 Markets and Entire Television Station Group

http://www.clearchannel.com/Corporate/PressRelease.aspx?PressReleaseID=1825

Hate to tell you they have to Sell 2 Dayton FM's

 

[Ray D Yo]

That's the wrong story. Dayton is #58, so it isn't included in that sale.
What everyone is referring to is the fact that CC would have to sell signals in multiple markets if the merger goes through. They would lose grandfathering rights to own too many signals in my markets, including 2 in Dayton.
Refer to this older post about it to see the list of sell offs once the merger happens: http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,57762.0.html
Or look at this story to better understand the issue: http://www.freepress.net/news/19844

 

[marketweis]

CHR is in a rut right now anyhow, with most people turned off by the rap that permeates Z and Channel's airwaves.

Try selling WDHT on the point that "most people" are turned off by the rap that permeates THEIR airwaves.

The problem right now is that there are too many similar stations in the market. If GTZ and DKF were ONE station, playing Top 40 mainstream music, programmed with some effort, creativity and excitement, with more talented personnel on-air, I think you'd see MUCH better numbers than either Z or Channel are producing right now.

 

[microbob]

Right, Here is the the list if the merger goes through and is approved by their shareholders which was postponed until April 19th

http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntry.asp?hid=135885&pt=archive

 

[Ray D Yo]

Bob, that's the list of stations in markets smaller than 100 again. Dayton isn't on that list because it is above 100, as is Cleveland which also needs to sell an FM after the merger. New York is even on the list you're looking for.

 

[jaddy5400]

Ray-D-Yo makes perfect sense in this case. But like they say, everyone knows anything about everything!

 

[microbob]

The list I posted showed Springfield OH -2 FM's not Dayton since its market #58

 

[kentuckymedia]

They must sell 2 FM's in Dayton and 1 in Cleveland. If they were to continue with the move in of WMRN to Dublin, they would be required to sell off an FM in Columbus, but it looks like the move in is now in the hands of the new owner of the Marion Market.

Pretty much everyone agrees that they will sell 103.9 and 106.5, move WXEG to the more powerful 94.5. The biggest thing is, Saga wants 103.9 like you would never believe. They didnt pay off the Bradens for the hell of it. Look at it this way, the money they paid the Bradens was used to not only upgrade 104.3, but another signal as well.

In Columbus, whoever buys 106.9 in Marion, is also picking up Chillicothe/Hillsboro/WCH. So its up to them if they want to move signals around like a chess game to make an extra 5 million per year. My bets are, they still will. I dont think Wilks is in the Columbus game for the long run.

As for Cleveland, pretty much everyone knows that Rubber City Radio has been eyeing 96.5 for quite sometime for Akron. The signal is still practically in Brecksville. They will move the Top 40 format to 106.5 and say see ya to Mix in Cleveland.

 

[Ray D Yo]

quote author=microbob link=topic=65154.msg473640#msg473640 date=1174506264]
The list I posted showed Springfield OH -2 FM's not Dayton since its market #58


[/quote]

That's Springfield, IL. Not OH.[

 

[jaddy5400]

Guys find the facts before you post. Ray-D-Yo is the only one making sense here. CC Dayton doesn't and is not required to sell off anything. With that said, they still could, but everyone is not in agreeance on this issue! Lets let this issue play out, and I'm sure that if you're right, then you can say i told you so. If I am right, I won't even say a word! Knowing is the best bragging right of them all. On another note, 9-4-5 is sounding alot better!

 

[LocalGuy]

CC Dayton doesn't and is not required to sell off anything.

If Clear Channel is acquired, it will, in fact, lose its grandfathering and be required to sell.

With that said, they still could, but everyone is not in agreeance on this issue!

"Agreeance?" I can't seem to find that in my dictionary. Or any dictionary.

Lets let this issue play out,

It's not an issue. If Clear Channel is acquired, it will, in fact, lose its grandfathering and be required to sell.

and I'm sure that if you're right,

We are.

then you can say i told you so.

We can say that now.

If I am right, I won't even say a word!

Since we know you're wrong, there's nothing in this for us to gain.

Knowing is the best bragging right of them all.

And we do. And you don't.

Children look really, really out-of-control and foolish when they act like this. Please, take my advice to heart -- stay mostly silent except when asking at least semi-intelligent questions. Your "acting out" is causing the board to be at risk of losing all its actual broadcasters when you cause us to have to wade through nonsense like this.

 

[jaddy5400]

You are probably not even in radio and if you are, then you probably are old and out-dated. Times have changed, and you need to as well.

Definition of agreeance :.
(ə-grē-əns)

1. (n.) The state of agreement; when two or more people possess the same opinions or ideas.

Origins: While this word was once found in dictionaries, it is now considered obsolete, and was removed for some strange reason.

Example: John and I were in agreeance about the future of the business.

You made yourself look very stupid just now there fella!!!!!