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YSP Classic Rock

How about some Free Beer and Hot Wings!

and enough of the same classics. how about some deeper Zeppelin and Pink Floyd! also some Jethro Tull! (not the slow ones), im thinking on the lines of Cross-Eyed Mary, Teacher, and Aqualung. when it comes to Zeppelin, instead of Black Dog (absolutly my favorite band, but this song is unlistenable) how about achilles last stand, and for Floyd, instead of Hey You, how about some Pigs [Three Different Ones]
 
eyg2181 said:
How about some Free Beer and Hot Wings!

and enough of the same classics. how about some deeper Zeppelin and Pink Floyd! also some Jethro Tull! (not the slow ones), im thinking on the lines of Cross-Eyed Mary, Teacher, and Aqualung. when it comes to Zeppelin, instead of Black Dog (absolutly my favorite band, but this song is unlistenable) how about achilles last stand, and for Floyd, instead of Hey You, how about some Pigs [Three Different Ones]

Morning show = smart money still on O&A

Floyd = Play "Echoes" or "San Tropez" and I'll never listen to another Philly station again.
 
SoulCrusher said:
WYSP has been awful ever since they returned, and turning into "The Rock You Grew Up With" represents the last nail in the coffin for them as far as I'm concerned. At least they were good enough for a preset both as a somewhat tame Active Rocker and a Hot Talk station, but ever since they came back with this "Classic Rock That Rocks" sound (which they have been since they came back - they just made it official with the new branding) they've been worthless in my eyes.

Try as I might, I can't get my head around CBS's line of thinking - giving the people more of the same old thing isn't working for them in NYC with K-Rock, and it's had them bringing up the rear in Philly behind WMMR, WMGK and Radio 104.5. With practically nothing that makes them stand out in the market (oooooh, they're playing moldy old fossil rock and cornball hair metal - awesome!) and a boring music intensive morning show (don't get me wrong, Frank Lario's cool ... he helped to create the classic WDOX sound with Tom McNally ... but if the powers that be won't allow him to summon that station's adventurous spirit with the music, the morning show will make you hit the snooze button), it's a very safe bet that there's nowhere for WYSP to go but down. This is such a bad move that I'm actually hoping for it to bomb.

i agree somewhat. YSP is certainly "reinventing the wheel" here, but wheels work, have worked and will always work -- until we all get our jet packs and hovercrafts. as much as i yearn for a breakout format (like DOX you mentioned), i know that such a move is unlikely in a place like philly, since there's too much at stake to allow for big risk-taking. i suppose they're just looking to serve as a single preset that will convert the MMR/MGK/104.5 flippers to settle on YSP. not a bad theory, if not necessarily that exciting.

and i'll echo your theory on the morning show. i've enjoyed lario's straight-forward style but the station should allow him to take a few steps. he's had some funny observations when he does talk, so maybe YSP has a morning show and doesn't even know it, because i don't think it'll take much to make a dent in the preson&steve audience. they shouldn't bother spending a bunch of money on a "morning show" and just make their own.
 
Now playing:

Days Of The New - "Shelf In The Room"

Does this cleanse the palate of those not wanting to hear the same ol', same ol'?

FYI: WAXQ in New York plays most of the songs eyg mentioned in the previous post at the top of this page. Wonder how their playlist will change with Bob Buchmann gone...
 
Wil said:
This doesn't really sound like much of a change from where they are now. Blooms quote was that he wanted to "rip the heart out of WMMR". I don't think changing a couple dozen songs on a station's playlist will even rip out a finger nail, let alone the heart!

As far as what is missing in Classic Rock in Philly, I don't hear new songs from Springsteen or Mudcrutch (Tom Petty) on MMR or MGK. There are other "classic rock" bands that put new stuff out that pretty much gets ignored in Philly (sometimes for good reason). Just one example - I have heard new songs from Def Leppard on rock and classic rock stations in Virginia, New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island and Connecticut while traveling this summer. Springsteen's "Radio Nowhere" did well on Billboard's Clasic Rock chart when it was released earlier in the year too. If it wasn't for satellite radio and VH-1 classic, I would never have heard it.




This is the problem with these type of stations. New music by established bands is ignored. All your examples are good. In addition to satellite, radio stations like WXPN will play new music from veteran artist. Now, obviously WXPN will not be playing new Def Leppard but otherwise a heritage classic rock artist will probably get airplay.
 
Element9 said:
Morning show = smart money still on O&A Floyd = Play "Echoes" or "San Tropez" and I'll never listen to another Philly station again.

...and "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" As if...
this song gets played on 105.7 on occasion, that and pigs and sheep.
 
eyg2181 said:
this song gets played on 105.7 on occasion, that and pigs and sheep.

In most of the city of Philadelphia - and pretty much anywhere west of the Delaware River - when you turn on 105.7, you get nothing but static.
 
I tuned them in, I cannot believe its the same repackaged, rehomoginized, renamed scholock, no difference, the same dried dreck, they will fail...who do they think they are fooling, MMR and RFF has nothing to worry about with this poor excuse for anything that rocks. Why are they afraid to experiment and play a broader variety, they are playing the same 70's and 80's tunes we have been subjected to for years, where is the new and improved sound. Where are the NY Dolls, the punk years, its the same tired worn out playlist, and now the no sports minded listener has to suffer with that horrible monotone Reese and Eagles this and Chickie and Petes that, give it a break already...
 
StemCell said:
I tuned them in, I cannot believe its the same repackaged, rehomoginized, renamed scholock, no difference, the same dried dreck, they will fail...who do they think they are fooling, MMR and RFF has nothing to worry about with this poor excuse for anything that rocks. Why are they afraid to experiment and play a broader variety, they are playing the same 70's and 80's tunes we have been subjected to for years, where is the new and improved sound. Where are the NY Dolls, the punk years, its the same tired worn out playlist, and now the no sports minded listener has to suffer with that horrible monotone Reese and Eagles this and Chickie and Petes that, give it a break already...

OK, while you might not like football on YSP (or the Eagles for that matter), no reason to bury Merrill Reese.
 
DStroyer said:
eyg2181 said:
this song gets played on 105.7 on occasion, that and pigs and sheep.

In most of the city of Philadelphia - and pretty much anywhere west of the Delaware River - when you turn on 105.7, you get nothing but static.

i'll take your word for west of philly, but its strong in lower bucks, which the river is right tere. the station does not fade out until your in central bucks, about 8 miles north of buckingham. i know this because thats where i flip to 107.1 when im listening to FBHW. my MP3 player picks it up until the Newtown area, but in a car you still got a half hour left on it. i understand your point WCHR is not a philly station. but it comes in clear as day on the eastern edge of the market. infact, there are places where you get 105.7 amd 106.5 clear, but some of the philly stations staticy. one of the places is the Burger King on New Falls Road in Fairless Hills. you can drive around lower bucks with WCHR on, and not hear a single fade until you get west of Bensalem. like you said, WCHR doesnt like the west direction, but its strong in Bucks, and from what i remember, the Northeast. and WBBO is the same as far as signal goes, maybe a little weaker.


And as for YSP, it sounds just like it did before, except no modern rock. i like it though, because it is the rock i grew up with. the 90's because it was my time, and the 70's and 80's because my dad always listened to it. my dad seems to like it too the heavier old rock, with the 90's alternative mixed in.
 
Derek Smalls said:
At some point, classic rock has to evolve into something other that Elton John and Crosby Stills And Nash.

I was talking about this last night at a ballgame. eventually a band like Nirvana has to be considered 'classic rock' and Alternative Radio needs to move away from playing them every 45 min. I mean the songs are 20 years old already! What would happen if in 1975 rock stations playing Zep, Hendrix, Janis, ect..were to play Dion & The Belmonts or Chubby Checker alongside the 'rock hits of the day'.

Time to let the classic rock format evolve, take some early green day, nirvana, smashing pumpkins...the tracks are timeless, thats why Alternatives have been beating the crap outta them. Find me a new Nirvana. Play the new Alt bands.

I have heard 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' Approximatly 10,000 times in my life. It is 20 years old. It IS classic rock!

Or ya know what...throw on some Jerry lee Lewis, oh wait, that might be kinda cool.
 
It'd be fabulous if they could unearth something other than Ozzy, Nine Inch Nails, AC/DC, Bon Jovi, Led Zep, Nirvana, Pink Floyd, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Tom Petty.

After 3 days of this, Jerry Lee Lewis would be a stellar addition.
 
But the truth is, the demo 'YSP is shooting for, in reality, didn't "grow up" with Jerry Lee Lewis.

And if I were a parent, I certainly wouldn't want my daughter growing up with him, either.
 
hamNcheese said:
Derek Smalls said:
At some point, classic rock has to evolve into something other that Elton John and Crosby Stills And Nash.

I was talking about this last night at a ballgame. eventually a band like Nirvana has to be considered 'classic rock' and Alternative Radio needs to move away from playing them every 45 min. I mean the songs are 20 years old already! What would happen if in 1975 rock stations playing Zep, Hendrix, Janis, ect..were to play Dion & The Belmonts or Chubby Checker alongside the 'rock hits of the day'.

Time to let the classic rock format evolve, take some early green day, nirvana, smashing pumpkins...the tracks are timeless, thats why Alternatives have been beating the crap outta them. Find me a new Nirvana. Play the new Alt bands.

I have heard 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' Approximatly 10,000 times in my life. It is 20 years old. It IS classic rock!

Or ya know what...throw on some Jerry lee Lewis, oh wait, that might be kinda cool.

My thoughts exactly...

Maybe something like a "New Classic Rock" format, and just let the early Hendrix, Zeppelin, and some others lay down. Go with a little early Alternative as well as the hair metal, and add the early grunge. JMO.
 
see I have no problem with the Alt format from RFF mixed with the Active format of YSP. There seems to be people out there that beg to differ. I can't figure it out, really. If you like it, you like it. End of story. I think YSP sounds great!
 
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