Whats with this "Eagle" simulcast

[gamefreak]

Is it really paying off for Cox to have 2 100,000 watt Class C's with lots of overlap playing the same format. Do they really believe in the "Eagle" brand that much. Top 40 and the "Eagle" brand of faux Classic-Hits seem like two formats Cox overexposes.

I for one say that branch off one of the stations into an 70's and 80's-based Greatest Hits format. While at it add some music from the 60's and 90's as well. Just a mix of Pop, Adult Contemporary, Rock and even some 80's Alt Rock. Add in a great jingle package/ presentation in general and you have a station.

 

[purpledevil]

So...what you're proposing is to basically bring back The Point and K-Hits formats, and combine them onto one station, while the other one stays classic rock as "The Eagle".

I don't even have the words. :I

 

[gamefreak]

Thats actually it, I just believe there is a lot of nostalgia for 70's and 80's music as a whole. Not just the Classic Rock that "The Eagle" happens to play. Houston is a diverse market with a rich history in Top 40 radio, give Houston the music and overall presentation of the radio people grew up on.

 

[gamefreak]

I would even take it a step further, hire the people who were on Top 40 Radio in the 70's and 80's. Especially if they are Radio Veterans here in Houston.

CBS has done this with stations like WCBS and 105.9 Sunny FM and thats what makes both stations shine. PD/ Morning Show Personality Rick Stacy was PD/ DJ on Orlando's Top 40 Y106 in the 80's prior to being with Sunny FM.

 

[fadedglory+]

I'd say bring one in if it sounds more like KONO 101......Charlie Tuna's 70's show comes on there on Sunday evenings!

 

[rbrucecarter5]

They have two bad signals, and they attempt to cover the metro area by using both frequencies. You must be new to this board, because many posters here - myself included - have been saying we need a real oldies / classic rock station in the area, similar to the highly successful KONO in San Antonio, KLUV in DFW, and similar stations in most large markets around the country. If it works there, it will work here.

The Eagle has recently caught a big break when the other classic rock station in the area flipped to something irrelevant to classic rock / oldies fans, leaving the format "classic rock" completely to the Eagle. It didn't take them long to improve and expand their playlist to better fit a traditional classic rock format. And - freed from its former identity crisis, it seems to be rating better.

It has an interesting HD strategy. It has oldies on 107.5. It has 80's on 106.9 - the former "point" format that was on 106.9.

It does seems like a bit of a waste of a frequency to put the same thing on two frequencies. But the Eagle isn't the champion of that - I can get five KSBJ's from my location! Of course most are very weak fringe reception of translators, but still ---

I would also argue that if any formats were over done in the area, it would be Spanish language and country. One of them could flip to oldies and nobody would notice one less of their old format. But they would have oldies to themselves and pick up the disenfranchised audience here.

 

[purpledevil]

*sigh*

Calendar says June 2014, but this sure looks like the same conversation from June 2013, and '12, and so on.

I think we should drop one of those pesky English language formatted stations. I mean, there must be at least 5 to every 1 of the Spanish ones. Make it a Tejano station, since it does so well in San Antonio it'd have to shoot to the top of the ratings Immediately here, right?

 

[Mediafrog+]

*sigh*

Calendar says June 2014, but this sure looks like the same conversation from June 2013, and '12, and so on.

I agree. This has been talked to death.

And another reminder about Oldies: In six months we will be closer in time to the 21st Century version of "The 60's" than we are to the 20th Century incarnation of that decade.

 

[rbrucecarter5]

I agree. This has been talked to death.

And another reminder about Oldies: In six months we will be closer in time to the 21st Century version of "The 60's" than we are to the 20th Century incarnation of that decade.

Massive HD outage on both 106.9 and 107.5 today - neither the Point on 106.9 nor the oldies on 107.5 are on - dead air. Will somebody remind me under what circumstances broadcasting dead air is every desirable?

 

[rbrucecarter5]

I agree. This has been talked to death.

And another reminder about Oldies: In six months we will be closer in time to the 21st Century version of "The 60's" than we are to the 20th Century incarnation of that decade.

Yeah, and all the composers of classical music are dead. Lets shut down KUHA because its music is irrelevant. And shut down KLUV, KONO, etc, too because obviously their audiences care that you don't like oldies and can play with calendars.

 

[purpledevil]

All dead huh?

Let's see, there's Phil Nyokai James. Not dead.

Bohdana Frolyak. Still breathing.

Klas Torsiensson, walking and talking.

Sorin Lerescu. Not yet zombified.

Gregg Wagner, domestic undead. Not foreign and alive, right in your wheelhouse.

Roger Zare, still amogst the living.

I mean, if your going to make blanket statements like that, others will start to take you as seriously as I do.

 

[rbrucecarter5]

All dead huh?

Let's see, there's Phil Nyokai James. Not dead.

Bohdana Frolyak. Still breathing.

Klas Torsiensson, walking and talking.

Sorin Lerescu. Not yet zombified.

Gregg Wagner, domestic undead. Not foreign and alive, right in your wheelhouse.

Roger Zare, still amogst the living.

I mean, if your going to make blanket statements like that, others will start to take you as seriously as I do.

I'm not really into the modern composers. I prefer the dead ones, music that has stood the test of time. I know there are some folks out there who disagree about modern composers. I find some of the music disharmonious, a bit disturbing in fact. The late John Williams did some really creative things for movies, I'd sure like to have heard those pieces expanded into symphonies. You get hints of what they could be with variations and movements.

As for my plea for oldies - I am not the only person on here who believes Houston needs and oldies station. I just seem to be the one who gets the most hate heaped on me - for something a lot of people are saying. It sure would beat some of the concocted freak show of formats that have been cobbled together and sold to advertisers around here.

 

[stan]

Yeah, and all the composers of classical music are dead. Lets shut down KUHA because its music is irrelevant. And shut down KLUV, KONO, etc, too because obviously their audiences care that you don't like oldies and can play with calendars.

Or WCBS and KRTH as well. Major markets have decent stations. Houston has an abundance of feces.

 

[purpledevil]

They're still not dead, whether you listen to them or not. Speaking of playing with calendars, try changing yours out. The 1970's Archie Bunker schtick was old 3 years ago when you first moved to Houston and brought your routine with you from the D/FW boards. Of course, as the old saying goes, "sometimes ya gotta fight fire, with fire", and that's probably the best course of action. The cordial, caring approach didn't work.

So...where's that Tejano station? I'm tired of hearing that slop on 94-5, especially since it impairs me from picking up La Kalle in San Antonio. That alternative junk makes me want to slam my truck head on into a concrete support! We need a Tejano here! Look how well 107-5 does in San Antonio, and we've got just as many Mexicans here!

I hope that comes across as foolishly as it felt to type it.

Stan, what does that say for the dial in Beaumont?

 

[PTBoardOp94]

I'm not really into the modern composers. I prefer the dead ones, music that has stood the test of time. I know there are some folks out there who disagree about modern composers. I find some of the music disharmonious, a bit disturbing in fact. The late John Williams did some really creative things for movies, I'd sure like to have heard those pieces expanded into symphonies. You get hints of what they could be with variations and movements.

Did John Williams show up late for lunch today? Because he's very much still with us.

 

[ContinuousWave]

They're still not dead, whether you listen to them or not. Speaking of playing with calendars, try changing yours out. The 1970's Archie Bunker schtick was old 3 years ago when you first moved to Houston and brought your routine with you from the D/FW boards. Of course, as the old saying goes, "sometimes ya gotta fight fire, with fire", and that's probably the best course of action. The cordial, caring approach didn't work.

So...where's that Tejano station? I'm tired of hearing that slop on 94-5, especially since it impairs me from picking up La Kalle in San Antonio. That alternative junk makes me want to slam my truck head on into a concrete support! We need a Tejano here! Look how well 107-5 does in San Antonio, and we've got just as many Mexicans here!

I hope that comes across as foolishly as it felt to type it.

Stan, what does that say for the dial in Beaumont?

There is nothing decent in Beaumont...since CC and Cumulus bought all they could and the only 2 FMs licensed to PA have been rimshots for Houston for decades....The Triangle has been dying since the 1980s.....(and the hurricanes put the nails in the coffin)

Wait I'll take that back....though I hate translators, 103.3 is the only thing good..with the Comedy 247 channel....

 

[stan]

The Triangle radio situation is as CW has described it, with most of the stations owned by two companies. Mostly voice tracked, or syndicated programming is the order of the day for Cumulus and Clear Channel. The few remaining live and local (Al Caldwell, etc) are still around, but for how long? When Caldwell retires, I believe KLVI won't be live anymore locally. They could simulcast KTRH, or better yet, start broadcasting Michael Barry around the clock.

The independently or smaller company owned stations (Martin, Birach, etc) are a mess engineering and sound wise, when they're not broadcasting dead air.

103.3 is great, although I tend to listen on KKMY-HD2 so I can hear it all the way to work in Port Arthur.

I used to listen to KVLU's HD streams but they disappeared, with no announcement as to why from the station. I thought it had to do with the renovations going on at their studios, but they will not respond to emails from their 'supporters'. Such is the state of radio in the Triangle - a train wreck much like that of Houston. I'd like to see some creativity and independence where someone would challenge the status quo or conventional thinking with respect to format / programming / live talent. I may be wanting to return to the 60s. Of course, I can always listen to Don Imus on Sirius XM.

 

[rbrucecarter5]

The Triangle radio situation is as CW has described it, with most of the stations owned by two companies.

They manage to support a full time oldies station KCOL 92.5. If a small market like Beaumont can - it is almost certain Houston could.

 

[rbrucecarter5]

Did John Williams show up late for lunch today? Because he's very much still with us.

Many apologies - I was certain I heard news reports a few years ago that he had passed away. I have noticed a general decline in the quality of news reporting in the last couple of decades. If you want to know anything about the Kardashians or Justin Beiber, that is front page news. Want to know anything about a classical musician - well you won't hear it on ET or TMZ.

 

[purpledevil]

Agreed. If you are relying on ET and TMZ for news reporting, the quality you will receive is abysmal.

KCOL is not an oldies station. It is classic hits. No 50's, very limited 60's on KCOL's playlist.