My apologies for getting the spelling wrong, you're absolutely correct.I've always remembered John's name spelled and pronounced as "John Mack Flanagan". Am I losing my mind?
My apologies for getting the spelling wrong, you're absolutely correct.I've always remembered John's name spelled and pronounced as "John Mack Flanagan". Am I losing my mind?
KFRC was easily heard beyond a hundred mile radius and came in like a local back in the day when I lived up in Ukiah, but I must say that I had no trouble at all tuning in KYA on my car radio. (although it was a bit noisy...)KYA had a better signal within the SF city limits than KFRC. However, in the suburbs, KFRC was much better. KYA marketed the station for San Francisco, while KFRC was more about the entire Bay Area. Part of the ratings shift in the '70s was likely due in part to growth of Bay Area suburbs in the South Bay and East Bay, where KFRC had a much better signal. Of course, once Dr. Don Rose arrived, it was game over for KYA.
Same when I lived there (1976 and 1977). KFRC came in like a local, which is why I programmed KUKI the way I did---sheer survival.KFRC was easily heard beyond a hundred mile radius and came in like a local back in the day when I lived up in Ukiah, but I must say that I had no trouble at all tuning in KYA on my car radio. (although it was a bit noisy...)
Under Drake KFRC called itself "The Big 610" as KEWB had been already been using "Boss Radio" and kind of ruined that idea for the BayArea market.Neither. It was KSFO.
KFRC did not switch to Top 40 until the year after KHJ started. So it was KYA and KEWB up till then, with KEWB, Color Channel 91, winning. Once KFRC switched under Drake and Tom Rounds, it was all over for the other two, ratings wise.
However, the champ during most of that decade was 560 KSFO. In the 70's, it was a flip-flop between KSFO, KCBS and KGO with the decade ending with the start of a 38 year #1 run for KGO
As for AM nothin" beats a salt water ground plane!Elevation helps with FM, but not with AM. Still, the 1260 transmitter building is a landmark—-designed by famed architect Julia Morgan.
I think 1010 was still a daytimer back in the day and became KJAY country. At one point in the 70s when Nixon's administration somehow mandated Year round DST, radio sunrise time during certain months in the Bay Area wasn't until 8:30 -- so much for trying to compete in Morning drive...That was not my first station visit... I drove my mom crazy stopping at stations where ever we were from about age 11 or 12 onward. On that trip to SF, I visited all the stations in the city, even the 1100 daytimer that had just increased power... as well as KCBS, KSFO, KGO and 1010 KSAN which I believe was country at the time.
But of all of them, KYA stood out as they were the nicest. It rivaled my visit a year later to WLS, where they let me sit in the lobby all day and get autorgraphs from the jocks as they arrived for work or went off shift. WLS had been my favorite "listen to" station in that era, and I was thrilled to meet my hero, Dick Biondi.
KYA actually used "The Boss of the Bay".Under Drake KFRC called itself "The Big 610" as KEWB had been already been using "Boss Radio" and kind of ruined that idea for the BayArea market.
KYA actually used "The Boss of the Bay".
May have. I don't remember it, but if it was after KYA stopped, why not?KDIA used "Boss of the Bay" too, didn't it?
I guess I was probably misinformed...I remember being told by a friend who had moved up to Mountain View in the early 60s that at about the time KHJ Boss radio came into being down here , KEWB had already used the term "Boss Radio". Maybe he really meant KYA...oh well...KYA actually used "The Boss of the Bay".
KHJ was the only RKO station that used "Boss Radio." KGB, San Diego, which Drake consulted, adopted it after KHJ did, as did Gene Chenault's KYNO, Fresno.
No, Tomas...your friend was right. I googled "KEWB Boss Radio" and this came up:I guess I was probably misinformed...I remember being told by a friend who had moved up to Mountain View in the early 60s that at about the time KHJ Boss radio came into being down here , KEWB had already used the term "Boss Radio". Maybe he really meant KYA...oh well...
Great little radio station---Shotgun Tom Kelly worked there as Bobby McAllister. Signal came in like a local half an hour before sundown in Bishop.Well down here in SoCal we had "the Boss of the Beach" KACY 152 ! I can still hear Tom Lynch's rhythmic sounding top of the hour station ID: "From Malibu to Santa Maria this is the Boss of the Beach - 50.000 watt 1520 KACY Port Hueneme"
Yeah, just before sunset KACY could be heard just about everywhere in the West until their pattern change to just 1 kW. That kilowatt was aimed west right into the ocean but still covered Ventura and even Santa Barbara, but terrible in places like Santa Paula, Saticoy and Camarillo where during the daytime KACY was arguably the strongest signal. At night KACY's .5 mV barely made it to Camarillo, in fact adjacent KFBK was strong enough to be mistaken for the local station and KACY the distant. KACY's signal in Thousand Oaks was absolutely local during the day but non-existent at night, and much the same for Simi Valley. I don't think 1520's ERP on night pattern east of the xmitter was much more than 100 Watts.Great little radio station---Shotgun Tom Kelly worked there as Bobby McAllister. Signal came in like a local half an hour before sundown in Bishop.
I lived in Ukiah for 2 years. Worked with Mike Spencer of K-Wine (but not at K-Wine). He was a very affable gentleman. This was 1996-1998.Same when I lived there (1976 and 1977). KFRC came in like a local, which is why I programmed KUKI the way I did---sheer survival.
Here’s your problem: The modern music will attract listeners who have no memory of production-laden radio. The reason radio sounds like it does now is that two generations of listeners have made it really clear that they’re there for the music and any perceived interruption of the music or the mood is an immediate tune-out.I may have mentioned this before, but threads like this make me feel like I was born 40 years too late....
Nothing is like it was back in the 50s, 60s, and even into the 70s. Compared to then, the modern world seems so... sterile and joyless.
Hopefully things will improve in my lifetime, but sometimes I'm not sure.
Incidentally, the online KYA-like stream advertises itself as "the Boss of the Bay."\
Somewhat off topic:
I came up with an idea recently: what if someone were to program a modern CHR or Top 40 station (or maybe AC?) that plays modern music, but give it the basic feel of a classic station such as KYA with vintage sounding, 60's/70's-like jingles and ads? It seems like a stark contradiction, but I have a feeling that it would be so unusual and novel that at least some listeners might actually find it interesting.
On the other hand, it could be a miserable disaster, but it would still make for a fascinating experiment.
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You're right, of course.Here’s your problem: The modern music will attract listeners who have no memory of production-laden radio. The reason radio sounds like it does now is that two generations of listeners have made it really clear that they’re there for the music and any perceived interruption of the music or the mood is an immediate tune-out.
Jocks don't talk much now as it is, and you have to have commercials to pay for the station, so now we're pretty much where we already are, cc333.You're right, of course.
I think something lightly produced, with little, if any DJ chatter and relatively few ads would probably work better. It's about the sound, not so much the content.
For radio, there has to be something other than music, otherwise, it's just an Internet stream of an automated playlist, with zero personality.
But if that's what people want nowadays....
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People don't want to listen to 5 min + of commercials either, even if we just gave them (or promise to give them) a 45 or even 60 min "free ride" of music. They just punch the next pre-set.Jocks don't talk much now as it is, and you have to have commercials to pay for the station, so now we're pretty much where we already are, cc333.
Production values would spice things up, but if there were relevant production values for today's contemporary music audience, they wouldn't have much, if anything in common with what we think of. Nobody wants call letters or station names sung at them.