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CBS owned CW affiliates to drop CW affiliation and go independent

OK Darren - I have to wonder - ARE YOU ON DRIGS right now??

There is NO way NO how ANYTHING like this is going to happen in Seattle
I think he wants every station in the country in a duopoly. 😆
 
KSTW (under its original KTNT call letters) was actually a CBS affiliate in the fifties and early sixties. As you note, it was a CBS affiliate again for two years in the nineties as a result of a joint deal (CBS wanted to affiliate with KTVT in Dallas/Fort Worth and had to agree to also take on KSTW in order to get the deal from the then-owner of both stations, Gaylord). The likelihood that it will become a CBS station for a third time is probably pretty low since history says that hasn't worked out well for CBS in the past. Notably, if the ratings hadn't been horrible in the nineties, I'm thinking that CBS wouldn't have been as quick to jump back to KIRO as they were.

Whether CBS would be willing to sell KSTW to someone who might want to make it into a CW affiliate is another matter, since I'm not sure how valuable a stand-alone independent station really is to them. While KSTW was once one of the most successful independent stations in the country and was even a regional superstation ("We're entertaining the whole northwest", "KSTWashington"), those days are long gone. Now it's just another "has been" station with a minimal news presence and very little image outside of being a generic CW affiliate -- whatever value there might have been in the station's heritage got blown away during those two years as a CBS affiliate from 1995 to 1997, and nothing that has happened since to recreate that heritage.

I grew up watching that station, but it's pretty clearly that what is left is an empty husk that probably is only worth whatever the stick value is to get into the Seattle/Tacoma market.
KSTW was the place to be for a while- I moved out to Seattle in 1988, applied everywhere but got a job at KCPQ. Worked there for a long time but felt it was time to leave last year. I applied for an engineering position at KSTW but the perfunctory Zoom interview told me everything I needed to know about that station. What's left of it just seems like an unpleasant, unhappy place to work at. Super glad I didn't get that job. As much of a joke as the CW is, I'm sure it will get worse at KSTW without any sort of affiliation.
 
KSTW was the place to be for a while- I moved out to Seattle in 1988, applied everywhere but got a job at KCPQ. Worked there for a long time but felt it was time to leave last year. I applied for an engineering position at KSTW but the perfunctory Zoom interview told me everything I needed to know about that station. What's left of it just seems like an unpleasant, unhappy place to work at. Super glad I didn't get that job. As much of a joke as the CW is, I'm sure it will get worse at KSTW without any sort of affiliation.
Most of the staff and management for KSTW are located in San Francisco where KPIX and the soon to be KPYX are located. I understand how KSTW is unpleasant from your angle


It's been true since 2006.


More than half a century and several affiliation switches later, the storied Puget Sound station will have a portion of its operations assumed by CBS Corp.'s duopoly in San Francisco, pink-slipping an unknown portion of KSTW's staff.
"All we're simply doing is reorganizing the station to help give it a better chance down the road," KSTW Vice President and General Manager Trey Fabacher said this week. "This is something a lot of stations have done around the country. It's nothing new in our industry right now."
Fabacher confirmed there would be layoffs but declined specifics, saying the station doesn't discuss personnel issues.
In KSTW's reorganization, some on-air operations will be assumed by staff at San Francisco CW affiliate KBCW-TV and CBS affiliate KPIX-TV by the end of the year. Fabacher stressed the lineup around KSTW's prime-time programming will remain the same.
"There will be no difference at all in the on-air product at our station. That's one of the things through this whole production that we made sure of," he said
 
what stations will replace KMAX, KSTW, WUPA, and WPCW

i already know that KRON, WTTA and WPHL will get it and WADL might get it too if they join mission broadcasting
It’s a good possibility that there are no replacements for WUPA or KSTW. There’s no stations available for Nexstar to buy and WPCH and WATL, let alone KZJO, have zero incentive to affiliate with a network seemingly now run as an appendage of a competing broadcast chain.
 
what stations will replace KMAX, KSTW, WUPA, and WPCW

i already know that KRON, WTTA and WPHL will get it and WADL might get it too if they join mission broadcasting
For Sacramento the CW Affiliation it's gotta be a subchannel of KTXL the Nexstar owned Fox affiliate in the area. KMAX will rename themselves directly after KOVR CBS Sacramento with a plus sign.
 
It’s a good possibility that there are no replacements for WUPA or KSTW. There’s no stations available for Nexstar to buy and WPCH and WATL, let alone KZJO, have zero incentive to affiliate with a network seemingly now run as an appendage of a competing broadcast chain.
Sure they do, and it's called "money."

Gray carries CW already in dozens of its markets, including Cleveland's WUAB and three other Georgia markets (Augusta, Columbus, Albany). Why wouldn't they add Atlanta?

And there's no reason CW has to be on a .1, which opens up lots of Seattle possibilities. Sinclair is a huge CW operator, so why not KOMO 4.2?
 
There’s no stations available for Nexstar to buy
Who said Nexstar had to buy stations to affiliate with? They can’t afford to do that because of the cap, and they are even still currently on WCCB in Charlotte instead of its competitor WMYT which they actually own.
 
My guesses...

Philly: WPHL 17 (your right. If so, MNT is gone in Philly.)
Atlanta: WANF 46 (Gray probably wants to give CBS up. They've hinted at dropping CBS since they've been giving it up on brandings and promotions, except for network ones. If so, WUPA becomes CBS. WATL will still be the home of MNT.)
San Francisco: KRON 4 (I'll give you that one as well. MNT goes away completely in the market.)
Seattle: KIRO 7 (Ironically enough, I say KIRO because they've done a news-intensive schedule before as a UPN affiliate. They can do the same as a CW affiliate with KSTW getting back CBS. MNT stays on KZJO.)
Tampa Bay: WTTA 38 (you're right about that too! If so, MNT goes away completely.)
Detroit: WMYD 20 or WADL 38 (It depends here. If WMYD gets it, WADL stays MNT. If WADL gets it, WMYD stays Indie, and MNT is gone completely.)
Sacramento: KTXL 40.2 (The Nexstar-owned factor matters here. MNT stays on KQCA.)
Pittsburgh: WPNT 22 (I believe you're right about this one too. I don't see WPGH giving up FOX. MNT is gone from Pittsburgh completely.)
KRON definitely gets the CW. MNTV will go to FOX owned KICU TV. Keep an eye Nexstar. They may try and buy KSTW from CBS. And heres where I am thinking and wondering if KBCW reverts back to its old days as call letters KBHK TV...
 
Sure they do, and it's called "money."

Gray carries CW already in dozens of its markets, including Cleveland's WUAB and three other Georgia markets (Augusta, Columbus, Albany). Why wouldn't they add Atlanta?
WPCH could move their nightly locally-produced program block to 7pm and forsake the 9pm news, allowing them to clear the CW. Plus there was that recent content deal between Nexstar and Gray's Raycom Sports arm that will be adding ACC sports to CW affiliates.

Why a deal hasn't been announced for Atlanta and Seattle is a bit concerning, as both the network and new affiliates really should be hyping the switch as soon as possible.
 
KBCW has already filed to become KPYX.

And Nexstar can't buy KSTW because it would put it over the national market cap.
Does this mean that Mission Broadcasting has to agree to get the broadcasting license of KSTW and WUPA. I understand that Mission Broadcasting have a pending deal to get WADL Detroit but has to wait for Approval and once that's done they sign affiliation deals and News content contracts with Nexstar.


Also San Diego recently Nexstar have a pending deal with KUSI-TV so far these two stations are waiting for approval and are proposed to join with their sister stations KRON, WPHL as New CW affiliates in September 2023.

 

Here is another reason why Paramount is changing the KBCW call letters to KPYX San Francisco. It's not just to comply with the agreement that KRON San Francisco is going to be the next CW affiliate in the area.

This one is also because KBCW calls belong to the University of Central Oklahoma for a Classical Music station in the state.

Its reach extends to the communities of Edmond and all of central Oklahoma, while also connecting with listeners across the state through repeater stations in McAlester (KBCW 91.9 FM) and Woodward (KCSC 95.9 FM). Serving as Oklahoma’s Voice for Performing Arts, Classical KUCO informs audiences about community events, showcases talented local artists, and presents complete musical works rarely found elsewhere on the airwaves or online.

 

Here is another reason why Paramount is changing the KBCW call letters to KPYX San Francisco. It's not just to comply with the agreement that KRON San Francisco is going to be the next CW affiliate in the area.

This one is also because KBCW calls belong to the University of Central Oklahoma for a Classical Music station in the state.



I think you have a misunderstanding here. Situations like KBCW-FM and KBCW-TV are perfectly legal and have been for decades now.

The only requirement is that whoever has had the base callsign the longest (the FM in Oklahoma in this case) has to grant permission for the other station to use it on a different band. Which they did, or else it would never have become KBCW-TV in the first place. Certainly not a reason to need to change it now, all these years later. That's purely a result of the affiliation change.
 
I think you have a misunderstanding here. Situations like KBCW-FM and KBCW-TV are perfectly legal and have been for decades now.

The only requirement is that whoever has had the base callsign the longest (the FM in Oklahoma in this case) has to grant permission for the other station to use it on a different band. Which they did, or else it would never have become KBCW-TV in the first place. Certainly not a reason to need to change it now, all these years later. That's purely a result of the affiliation change.
I was waiting for this.
 
I think you have a misunderstanding here. Situations like KBCW-FM and KBCW-TV are perfectly legal and have been for decades now.

The only requirement is that whoever has had the base callsign the longest (the FM in Oklahoma in this case) has to grant permission for the other station to use it on a different band. Which they did, or else it would never have become KBCW-TV in the first place. Certainly not a reason to need to change it now, all these years later. That's purely a result of the affiliation change.
Yes this is exactly like Audacy having the rights to WBBM, KCBS, WCBS, KDKA for their FM and AM stations, This is while Paramount has WBBM, KCBS, WCBS, KDKA for their CBS affiliated TV stations.
 
And heres where I am thinking and wondering if KBCW reverts back to its old days as call letters KBHK TV...
From other responses, you now know that the answer to that is that they won't. And while I and other TV history nerds would certainly appreciate if they reverted back to the original KBHK call letters, there really isn't any valid business reason to do so, nor even a good reason to do so in terms of historical legacy. So far as I'm aware, KBHK never made it above #5 in the local ratings and there's really not a lot of reason for CBS to go back to call letters that stand for "Kaiser Broadcasting -- Henry Kaiser".
 

Here is a clip in 1983 when KBHK was then owned by Field Communications. What worked in 1983 would not work today given that movies and Syndicated TV shows moved to TV Apps. CBS is right to rename KBCW as KPYX and it's to give them a reason for viewers to watch them.
 
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