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The new KROI/KTHT changes thread

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rageradio said:
I came here looking for the answer to this. I’d like to record the final hour and format change. My thinking is if KTHT changes hands on Monday it would happen at midnight Sunday and we would hear some kind of switchover. Because after all Radio One is no longer able to program the station after the sale closes
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Radio One never programmed or owned KTHT, it was part of the Cox Media Group cluster. We’re all curious as to what happens between the sale closing and the start of the presumed LMA to EMF (the Sugarland Station Trust has to go through its own sale process to deliver KTHT to EMF, which wil take a few months.)

I recall that when EMF took over KHJK (for Air1) the switch came at 5pm and had been announced in advance. The previous AAA format ran right up to the switchover time, with brief dead air before the Air1 national feed began. The Air1 host did spend much of the first hour welcoming the new Houston audience.
 
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Engineering said:
I thought Univision had a monopoly on using the moniker K-LOVE (KOVE 106.5).
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Just as they did in LA, they can sell or lease the use of the name, as they are not using it in Houston.
 
Mediafrog+ said:
Radio One never programmed or owned KTHT, it was part of the Cox Media Group cluster. We’re all curious as to what happens between the sale closing and the start of the presumed LMA to EMF (the Sugarland Station Trust has to go through its own sale process to deliver KTHT to EMF, which wil take a few months.)

I recall that when EMF took over KHJK (for Air1) the switch came at 5pm and had been announced in advance. The previous AAA format ran right up to the switchover time, with brief dead air before the Air1 national feed began. The Air1 host did spend much of the first hour welcoming the new Houston audience.
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Maybe that should have been worded as Radio One can’t program 97.1 as of Monday…
 
When is KROI expected to stop running the Praise programming? Will it still be business as usual tomorrow, going temporarily silent tomorrow, or getting taken over by SBS tomorrow?
 
Praise and Country Legends still going at a 7:20 check this morning 7/31.

All the usual HD subchannels on 92.9/106.9/107.5 are also present. Some question as to whether Radio One will keep the unique (non-translator) formats currently on the HD-2s of those frequencies.

No HD on 97.1, though I was getting strong tropo from KXBJ and KAJA on either side which might be suppressing the IBOC sidebands.

Not sure how Praise could keep going on 92.1 after the sale closing as it would essentially be an LMA for a sixth station, not allowed. The earlier suggestion of a separate playlist might make sense.

I would think K-Love would appear on 97.1 as soon as the satellite downlink and other audio chain local insert equipment are in place, probably before late August, as opposed to a few months.

The audio on 102.1 HD-2 is still low. Radio One might want to fix this as the Praise listeners with HD radios will be migrating there (is it too much to ask that radio stations actually pay attention to what is being transmitted?)
 
Mediafrog+ said:
No HD on 97.1, though I was getting strong tropo from KXBJ and KAJA on either side which might be suppressing the IBOC sidebands.
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HD has not turned off. Tropos is quite strong this morning. They are also still airing ads

Kind of off topic but it seems like KTXN from Victoria has been off all morning allowing me to finally lock in KBBT HD from San Antonio.
 
Mediafrog+ said:
Not sure how Praise could keep going on 92.1 after the sale closing as it would essentially be an LMA for a sixth station, not allowed. The earlier suggestion of a separate playlist might make sense.

I would think K-Love would appear on 97.1 as soon as the satellite downlink and other audio chain local insert equipment are in place, probably before late August, as opposed to a few months.
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Look at nearly every divestiture trust in operation over the past two decades. They continue with their programming until a sale.

As for KTHT, I'm told early-mid October for launch.
 
lanceventa said:
Look at nearly every divestiture trust in operation over the past two decades. They continue with their programming until a sale.
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And normally that is a straightforward process, as the trustee has control over the station, advertising revenue, and its unique programming.

With KTHT, as long as the Sugarland Station Trust has access to and control of broadcast automation (located wherever) that can play out the Country Legends format, it can keep going until EMF has its own program link and local insert automation in place, also at whatever location. Presumably any advertising is sold by the trust, which keeps the revenue. Previous owner Cox Media Group is out of the picture.

However the situation is different with KROI. The Praise format has been simulcast on both KROI and KMJQ HD-2, and that programming will continue on the HD. But how does it continue on KROI without creating a market cap issue as a virtual “sixth station“ for Radio One? Who is programming 92.1 and who is getting the advertising revenue from spots that are simultaneously airing on two separately owned stations? It would seem a temporary format would be needed by the trust to distinguish from the continuation of the existing format on a RO owned station. Of course that temporary format could simply mimic what Praise is doing.

Am I making sense? Something that I’m missing?
lanceventa said:
As for KTHT, I'm told early-mid October for launch.
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That is somewhat surprising; thought K-Love would be in place much sooner. Marketing campaign to create awareness?

Edit to add: 11am KTHT TOHID still includes “A Cox Media Group station.”
 
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Mediafrog+ said:
And normally that is a straightforward process, as the trustee has control over the station, advertising revenue, and its unique programming.

With KTHT, as long as the Sugarland Station Trust has access RO and control of broadcast automation (located wherever) that can play out the Country Legends format, it can keep going until EMF has its own program link and local insert automation in place, also at whatever location. Presumably any advertising is sold by the trust, which keeps the revenue. Previous owner Cox Media Group is out of the picture.

However the situation is different with KROI. The Praise format has been simulcast on both KROI and KMJQ HD-2, and that programming will continue on the HD. But how does it continue on KROI without creating a market cap issue as a virtual “sixth station“ for Radio One? Who is programming 92.1 and who is getting the advertising revenue from spots that are simultaneously airing on two separately owned stations? It would seem a temporary format would be needed by the trust to distinguish from the continuation of the existing format on a RO owned station. Of course that temporary format could simply mimic what Praise is doing.
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It doesn't, and the logical choice would be to get KROI moved to Spanish language as soon as possible. There's nothing gained from a lame duck, and continuing on with a Gospel format separate from Praise would be exactly that.
Mediafrog+ said:
Am I making sense? Something that I’m missing?

That is somewhat surprising; thought K-Love would be in place much sooner. Marketing campaign to create awareness?

Edit to add: 11am KTHT TOHID still includes “A Cox Media Group station.”
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I agree that that is quite a bit longer than I would have expected for K-Love to be put in place. As soon as the Sugarland Trust had control of the facility, I assumed an LMA would've been worked out, with the monthly payments being deducted from the purchase price, until the deal is approved and the consummation filed. Goes to show, when you think you've got it all figured out, you really don't.
 
rosecitymedia said:
I agree that that is quite a bit longer than I would have expected for K-Love to be put in place. As soon as the Sugarland Trust had control of the facility, I assumed an LMA would've been worked out, with the monthly payments being deducted from the purchase price, until the deal is approved and the consummation filed. Goes to show, when you think you've got it all figured out, you really don't.
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Back in the day, closings were simple: papers were signed, the billing transitioned at midnight, and the hardest thing was getting the utility companies to put the bills in the correct name.

Now, you have weeks of work to get your IT infrastructure out so the place can be standalone when the clock strikes whatever, then you have the time to get the new infrastructure in... Can you blame them for trying to space things out a little bit?
 
Loverofradio said:
Sorry if this has already been mentioned. Who’s programming 97.1 now? Is Cox still paying on air talent for the station until the flip?
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Well, considering the station is 100% voice tracked and hasn't had a live jock on it for at least a year or more...
 
johndavis said:
Well, considering the station is 100% voice tracked and hasn't had a live jock on it for at least a year or more...
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I guess the talent doing the voicetracking on KTHT would be paid by the trust on a contract worker basis, as would anyone else maintaining the program log, playout automation, and transmitter. And who is handling sales? Of course all those positions go away once EMF takes over.
 
Mediafrog+ said:
I guess the talent doing the voicetracking on KTHT would be paid by the trust on a contract worker basis, as would anyone else maintaining the program log, playout automation, and transmitter. And who is handling sales? Of course all those positions go away once EMF takes over.
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Today's log was created Friday.

Generally, when a sale closes, midnight is the line - Today's billing is old owner, tomorrow's is new. At least that's how we did it when I worked at other stations that sold. So tomorrow they play a log made by the old owner, but billed by the new. it all depends upon the agreement between the companies, but having gone through a few sales back when stations changed owners like people change socks, that's how it was done.

Thinking back to one sale in the 90s, the outgoing music director scheduled a month's worth of logs before she left for her new gig. We took over on a Friday, spent the next week winding down any outstanding ad contracts and producing the stunt material, and blew up the format the following Friday with the owner walking into the studio, shaking the jock's hand and handing him the cart to play next to kill off the format and asking him to stay on in a production role. But that was in the days before LMAs before closing were common. (or for that matter, back when the guy who owned it had a corner office at the station.)
 
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