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Good Karma To Lease 880; WCBS News Programming To End

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According to the Wikipedia article cited previously, the FM is a translator, W222CG, not WFMB-FM. Can a translator actually have a traditional all-letters call sign? Or both kinds of calls at the same time?

According to the official FCC records (as opposed to Wikipedia, Radio-Locator, or Jeeper One), there are both WFMB (facility ID 48333, licensed on 1450 kHz) and WFMB-FM (facility ID 48331, licensed on 104.5 MHz).

W222CG (facility ID 138645, licensed on 92.3 MHz) identifies the AM as its program origination.

WFMB-FM is separately programmed from WFMB (AM)/K222CG.
 
Our universities here in New England don't arouse much interest even when the teams are good, except for UConn's basketball program. In New York, Syracuse is something of a sleeping giant, but its glory days in basketball are two decades in the past, and the football program has struggled for even longer. Being in the ACC instead of the old Big East hasn't helped at all.
How about we keep the thread on topic about 880 and not about college sports?
 
Some facts about FCC callsign policies that I hope will clear up a lot of misunderstanding. (Pat, please pay close attention, since you've been a prolific source of misinformation here!)

First: just because the WCBS calls are leaving AM doesn't mean WCBS-FM or WCBS-TV have to do anything.

The FCC doesn't care whether an FM or TV station's callsign includes the -FM or -TV suffix *unless* it's needed to differentiate from an AM station, which never has a suffix.

There's no reason WCBS-TV can't remain WCBS-TV if it wants to. Or, it could do what WNBC-TV did and become just "WCBS." But really, why bother?

Because, as others have mentioned, control of the base "WCBS" callsign still rests with Paramount, for two reasons.

First, the FCC policy says that whoever's had use of the base callsign longest can control whether any other owner can use it on other services.

As the corporate successor of CBS, which first used the WCBS call across all three services in 1946, Paramount has final say about whether it will grant permission to any other licensee to use "WCBS" anywhere else - AM, LPFM, LPTV, whatever.

And Paramount has already sorted out that issue. The contract for selling the CBS radio stations to Entercom is public and anyone can read it and understand what it says.

For the four radio callsigns that included the letters "CBS" (WCBS and WCBS-FM in New York, KCBS San Francisco, KCBS-FM LA), Entercom and its successors have until 2037 to keep using those calls. They were required to stop using the CBS Eye logo in 2018, and there's a provision that if any of those four stations change format, they have to change calls.

That's why WCBS is becoming WHSQ. It has to.

The agreement also said Entercom can't move those calls anywhere else. They can't put WCBS on 1010, for instance.
Agreed and this partially explains why 106.9 FM San Francisco is officially listed as KFRC-FM even though Audacy calls 106.9 FM as "KCBS All News" to connect themselves to 740 AM where KCBS-AM originates from as part of the brand.

 
Agreed and this partially explains why 106.9 FM San Francisco is officially listed as KFRC-FM even though Audacy calls 106.9 FM as "KCBS All News" to connect themselves to 740 AM where KCBS-AM originates from as part of the brand.

The other reason is that the calls KCBS-FM have to remain on 93.1 in Los Angeles (where they resided at the time of the agreement). They cannot be moved, although Audacy could abandon them if they wanted to.

Indeed, KCBS(AM) and KCBS-FM will have to give both up in a little over a dozen years anyway. In L.A., they're just there for legal purposes, since the format is Adult Hits "Jack FM" ... but who knows? Maybe in 2037 we'll have "KFRC All News" in S.F.
 
How about we keep the thread on topic about 880 and not about college sports?
Agreed. Too much unwarranted Rutgers hate emerged where it wasn't necessary. (And personally, I feel that Rutgers and Syracuse are better off in the Big East. But I digress...)

And BTW, to @Don CT and the other posters throwing shade at the Scarlet Knights: Rutgers is one of many schools nationwide that works with Learfield as their media partner. So no, the school nor alumni are buying time. St. John's, Syracuse, Seton Hall, Army, and UConn are some other NYC-area schools who are Learfield clients.

Now that I think about it, last college football season WCBS 880 carried the syndicated Notre Dame football package. I wonder where that will end up now?

And with that, back to radio (and sports-as-it-relates-to-radio) talk.
 
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Just because a licensing agreement has an expiration date doesn't mean it can't be renewed.

If the KCBS branding still has any value in 2037 - and none of us has a crystal ball that can predict what the radio or TV business will look like by then - there's no reason Audacy and Paramount, or their corporate successors, couldn't negotiate a renewal of the licensing deal.
 
As of right now, I am recording a 3-hour special on reminiscing WCBS “Newsradio 88” with guests including Wayne Cabot and so many more. I will post the entire special afterwards. I’m going to the Dutchess County Fair right now.

Starting this Sunday at 12AM, I will record the final 24 hours of WCBS “Newsradio 88” to make way for ESPN Radio including the final sign-off.

And just to let you know that “Stardust Memories” with Mike McGann on WLML’s “Legends 100.3” will be delaying for 3 hours until 1PM where he will do a special hour-long edition.

Stay tuned!
 
So what would happen to the LMA if Audacy can’t raise the money to get out of bankruptcy. Does the deal just end or could ESPN continue to broadcast on 880.
 
As of right now, I am recording a 3-hour special on reminiscing WCBS “Newsradio 88” with guests including Wayne Cabot and so many more. I will post the entire special afterwards. I’m going to the Dutchess County Fair right now.

Starting this Sunday at 12AM, I will record the final 24 hours of WCBS “Newsradio 88” to make way for ESPN Radio including the final sign-off.

And just to let you know that “Stardust Memories” with Mike McGann on WLML’s “Legends 100.3” will be delaying for 3 hours until 1PM where he will do a special hour-long edition.

Stay tuned!
Great, a pity that Audacy's stations are only heard in the USA and not outside the USA.
 
As of right now, I am recording a 3-hour special on reminiscing WCBS “Newsradio 88” with guests including Wayne Cabot and so many more. I will post the entire special afterwards. I’m going to the Dutchess County Fair right now.

Starting this Sunday at 12AM, I will record the final 24 hours of WCBS “Newsradio 88” to make way for ESPN Radio including the final sign-off.

And just to let you know that “Stardust Memories” with Mike McGann on WLML’s “Legends 100.3” will be delaying for 3 hours until 1PM where he will do a special hour-long edition.

Stay tuned!

Im afraid to ask what Legends 100.3 has to do with any of this?
 
So what would happen to the LMA if Audacy can’t raise the money to get out of bankruptcy. Does the deal just end or could ESPN continue to broadcast on 880.

If they can't get out of bankruptcy, then it's up to the lenders (the people who own the debt and will own the assets)

But this proposal will erase a big chunk of the debt.
 
Why'd you have to go there?!?!

It's like a fiery car crash on the side of the road.. you know its there, you dont wanna look and contribute to the bottleneck, but you cant help it out of sheer curiosity (and in this case, the reasoning and answer)
 
Apparently one of MTN's favorite super-swell doo-wop DJs is delaying his show for 3 hours. Don't know if it's a favor to a loyal listener who wants to catch WCBS's final hours or a fortunate coincidence.
That why I flipped from one station to the next. But it’s 1:42PM I’m listening to “Legends” now, because I finished listening to a special retrospective of WCBS “Newsradio 88” where it ran for 3 hours from 10AM until 1PM. Right after Mike McGann’s show, I will flip to WLNG and listen to Chris Buckhout at 2PM with the oldies.
 
That why I flipped from one station to the next. But it’s 1:42PM I’m listening to “Legends” now, because I finished listening to a special retrospective of WCBS “Newsradio 88” where it ran for 3 hours from 10AM until 1PM. Right after Mike McGann’s show, I will flip to WLNG and listen to Chris Buckhout at 2PM with the oldies.
What about Bob Corsino on Fox Oldies?
 
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