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The Trump Administration rants about ABC News And NBC, Says They Should Lose FCC Licenses

Anybody believe this is not about Kimmle.

Mr. Carr should have stuck with his first excuse. Making it all about DEI makes this issue look even more toxic for this administration.
 
Anybody believe this is not about Kimmle.

The part about this however is that the administration has made a crime out of DEI, which is an extension of Equal Opportunity rules. For example, if you apply for a job at an ABC TV station, there is this disclaimer at the bottom of the job listing:

This position is covered under the NABET-CWA ABC Master Agreement. Equal Opportunity Employer - Female/Minority/Veteran/Disability/Sexual Orientation/Gender Identity.

On the surface that looks fine. But this administration doesn't like the last two categories, even though they are part of the law.


He says the station can't discriminate on the basis of race or gender. What he means by the is the station can't hire blacks or gays. But that's not what the law says. This is a case where the administration is pushing its own agenda without actually having a legal basis. ABC doesn't have a director of DEI and they don't use DEI in hiring. They're simply following EOE rules. But Carr wants to make a big deal out of nothing, and he's managed to do that here.

DEI itself isn't illegal, and the government admits that. However, following the president's EO, government agencies, including the FCC and even EEOC have policies about how DEI can be done:


This gets into that area of interpreting vague rules by agencies. This is about using civil rights laws to benefit white people. So far none of these agency campaigns against DEI have been challenged in the courts. Perhaps this time it will. We know under the Chevron decision, they will lose in court.
 
From the linked article above:

“It depends on where the investigations go,” he said Thursday after the Commission’s latest opening meeting in DC. “I don’t have an update right now and where we are in that Comcast one, but we’ve been very consistent across the board about what we view as invidious forms of DEI discrimination as deals have come before the FCC. We have required people to look at their policies and make sure they don’t have what we think is invidious forms of DEI.”

The thing to note is that even if they determine there is "invidious forms of DEI," they can't revoke a license over it. In fact we're not even sure that they can even levy a fine. The policy that I linked from EOE doesn't provide any penalties. They would probably have to be decided by the courts, not the FCC.

What attracts my attention is the companies they choose to investigate about DEI. Not Fox News, not Nexstar, not Sinclair. Why is that, I wonder? It gets to the selective enforcement situation I've brought up. If they want to do this in a fair, non-partisan way, they should put everyone through the same procedure, not just the ones they want to harass. In that way, they're causing their own form of government discrimination targeting only their enemies.
 
Today while speaking at an event with King Charles, the president made a joke about his own mortality:


Jimmy Kimmel played this clip on his TV show tonight, and asked, "Isn't this exactly why he wants me fired?
Aw, come on! One thing is joking about one's own mortality and another is predicting the death of someone else
 
Aw, come on! One thing is joking about one's own mortality and another is predicting the death of someone else

Neither statement is a threat. Neither causes anyone to take action. Neither one is illegal. Both were said in jest. Both are protected speech.

Carr has given more details about his investigation, and he says it's not based on what Kimmel said. So that's irrelevant.

 
The part about this however is that the administration has made a crime out of DEI, which is an extension of Equal Opportunity rules.
As employed, DEI is not an extension of EEO rules. It encourages the favoring of non-whites in employment, and has been use to suggest that companies and organizations might "compensate" for lack of past opportunities. s
He says the station can't discriminate on the basis of race or gender. What he means by the is the station can't hire blacks or gays. But that's not what the law says. This is a case where the administration is pushing its own agenda without actually having a legal basis. ABC doesn't have a director of DEI and they don't use DEI in hiring. They're simply following EOE rules. But Carr wants to make a big deal out of nothing, and he's managed to do that here.
In this case, they are saying that non-minorities are being excluded with the purpose of righting a past wrong. I personally see this as someone who was a minority in every radio position I ever had and who was required to prove value at each step despite being a minority.
This gets into that area of interpreting vague rules by agencies. This is about using civil rights laws to benefit white people. So far none of these agency campaigns against DEI have been challenged in the courts. Perhaps this time it will. We know under the Chevron decision, they will lose in court.
I see the opposition to DEI as seeking to keep the playing field as level as the courts and legal system can... despite prejudices, bigotry and racism. I just don't see the need for a vague concept when EEO is in place and, perhaps, needs better regulation and enforcement.
 
Neither statement is a threat. Neither causes anyone to take action. Neither one is illegal. Both were said in jest. Both are protected speech.
Those who object to Kimmel's original "joke" see it as a call to action... an invitation... and (as I have said before) similar to calling "fire" in a packed theater. You may find the "joke" amusing; I find it disgusting and perilous at a time when the two major political parties are so polarized.
Carr has given more details about his investigation, and he says it's not based on what Kimmel said. So that's irrelevant.
So let it continue. If there are significant findings, there will be a court case and the opportunity to present them to a judge and jury.
 
As employed, DEI is not an extension of EEO rules. It encourages the favoring of non-whites in employment, and has been use to suggest that companies and organizations might "compensate" for lack of past opportunities.

That's how some groups interpret it. That's why Project 2025 aimed at eliminating it, and Carr is an active member of that group.

In this case, they are saying that non-minorities are being excluded with the purpose of righting a past wrong.

They're saying it without any facts or proof. History has shown that both forms of discrimination are very difficult to prove.

I see the opposition to DEI as seeking to keep the playing field as level as the courts and legal system can... despite prejudices, bigotry and racism. I just don't see the need for a vague concept when EEO is in place and, perhaps, needs better regulation and enforcement.

If you read the link I posted detailing EEOC policy for DEI, you will see it is more "vague concepts." What there is a need for is tolerance and understanding, and constantly attacking the media or minorities or forcing political agendas isn't a way to do that.
 
"Those" as in you. You're the one objecting to it. And that was already obvious three threads ago.
I have received several dozen direct emails objecting to the one-sided position of "it's just a joke" and who find such comments to be the opposite of humor... and even an encouragement for real actions.

As someone who went to school with, worked with and even dated survivors and who knew real Third Reich nazi's, I find the use of many terms in broadcast dialogs to be both inaccurate and very harmful.
 
I have received several dozen direct emails objecting to the one-sided position of "it's just a joke" and who find such comments to be the opposite of humor... and even an encouragement for real actions.

It's fine to have that opinion, and nobody is saying you can't have that opinion. The difference here is taking that opinion and then using a position as an official in the government to target other people for what they said and demanding they get fired. I think Carr has realized he can't in fact do what the president wants him to do, but he can make business more difficult for Kimmel's employer. In its own way, that is an invidious form of discrimination. Because it's only being used on the companies the president has identified.
 
As employed, DEI is not an extension of EEO rules. It encourages the favoring of non-whites in employment, and has been use to suggest that companies and organizations might "compensate" for lack of past opportunities. s

In this case, they are saying that non-minorities are being excluded with the purpose of righting a past wrong. I personally see this as someone who was a minority in every radio position I ever had and who was required to prove value at each step despite being a minority.

I see the opposition to DEI as seeking to keep the playing field as level as the courts and legal system can... despite prejudices, bigotry and racism. I just don't see the need for a vague concept when EEO is in place and, perhaps, needs better regulation and enforcement.
I believe DEI also covers disability discrimination as well. I am blind, sso it covers me as well in that respect.
 
Neither statement is a threat. Neither causes anyone to take action. Neither one is illegal. Both were said in jest. Both are protected speech.

Carr has given more details about his investigation, and he says it's not based on what Kimmel said. So that's irrelevant.

I think he is now making that excuse because Ted Cruz got mad att him again.
 


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