101.5 The Point Flipping To Hot 101.5?

[Obtuse1]

WAPE shows personalities around the clock. Maybe I'm obtuse, but this format needs to be live at least up to midnight. Or least VT in strong people from other Cox products. I think if they do it like they do the Dove and the Eagle they are wasting their time

I wouldn't be surprised if the 97X personnel that VT'd The Point continue with Hot 105 (with less 80's-sounding fake names, of course).

The word according to Cox is that there will be personalities, but no "signature personalities distracting from the music".

On an unrelated note, it looks like the HD-2 is still AC "Star 101.5".

 

[MsMusicRadio]

Can CHR work without jocks, no jingles, and repetitve liners?

A radio station can't win without jingles? lol

The sacred cows are mooing loudly today in Tampa bay. ;-)

Of course a station can. I just think that they add a lot to CHR.

 

[InSearchOfGear]

Can CHR work without jocks, no jingles, and repetitve liners?

A radio station can't win without jingles? lol

The sacred cows are mooing loudly today in Tampa bay. ;-)

Of course a station can. I just think that they add a lot to CHR.

Do they add listeners?

 

[jmtillery]

Can CHR work without jocks, no jingles, and repetitve liners?

A radio station can't win without jingles? lol

The sacred cows are mooing loudly today in Tampa bay. ;-)

Of course a station can. I just think that they add a lot to CHR.

Do they add listeners?

Jingles are a programming element which contribute to the programming and overall station sound. If the jingles add to the entertainment value of the programming presented which in turn results in a higher cume and AQH within the desired target demographic, then, yes, the jingles played an integral part in adding listeners.

 

[radioguy555]

According to this St. Pete Times story, Corey Dylan is out:

http://www.tampabay.com/features/media/point-1015-flips-switch-ignites-radio-war-with-wflz/1178306

I can't imagine they will bring in more than 1 or 2 people who are live and local, if any.

 

[MsMusicRadio]

She would have been good in middays on the Eagle, PM drive on WDUV, or as a live show at night on Magic keeping Delilah on from 12-5AM only. With all the open slots , it is a shame to can someone with all that service who has not generated controversy.

 

[oldiesed]

I will miss Corey!!

 

[gamefreak]

She would have been good in middays on the Eagle, PM drive on WDUV, or as a live show at night on Magic keeping Delilah on from 12-5AM only. With all the open slots , it is a shame to can someone with all that service who has not generated controversy.

She'd be perfect for The Dove. Cox owes her for 9 Years of service at The Point. Without getting Cox fined by the FCC. With the 1st 5 years being the only personality other than PD Nick Sanders. Dylan would also be better than Delilah as well.

 

[MsMusicRadio]

Seems like CBS alone makes even a half-hearted attempt to place people in other slots like Alicia Kaye doing week-ends on Q or Nikki Cruz cut loose by CC. Even that is meager considering the rest of the folks cut loose by two format changes on WSJT and the staff reductions several years ago on Q105. However Cox has the leat excuse having two stations that are automated most of the time and possibly creating a third. It looks like 97.1 and 102.5 have people all day and night up to midnight on their websites and Magic has Delilah for 9 freakin hours a night.

 

[InSearchOfGear]

Can CHR work without jocks, no jingles, and repetitve liners?

A radio station can't win without jingles? lol

The sacred cows are mooing loudly today in Tampa bay. ;-)

Of course a station can. I just think that they add a lot to CHR.

Do they add listeners?

Jingles are a programming element which contribute to the programming and overall station sound. If the jingles add to the entertainment value of the programming presented which in turn results in a higher cume and AQH within the desired target demographic, then, yes, the jingles played an integral part in adding listeners.

Old school thinking for a modern era radio station. And in the PPM world? How old are you, Jim?

 

[gamefreak]

Ever noticed up until the Semptember 2006 WMTX played the synicated Backtrax USA on Sunday Nights. Do you think that having an All-80's stations like "The Point" put pressure on Mix to end the show. The Kid Kelley Show may have played a broader variety to music but an all-80's station probaly put strain on its ratings.

Looking back WPOI probaly had the longest run and most successful for an all-80's station. Other than KHPT in Houston. I mean even looking at its last book WPOI has done better than all these 80's stations. WPOI maybe #13 but it could have been much worse off on its last book. Look at WMXQ in Jacksonville or even KHPT which was #31 in its last book. Tampa may love CHR but Tampa also love 80's and 90's Music. Otherwise "The Point" would have been axed much, much sooner. It was one of these numbers "What other stations plays 80's music."

When ratings went slowly downhill years ago Cox should have done this number. Based the 90's on the playlist after Top-40 "The Power Pig" and the 80's after Q105. Played All the Hits from both decades. However The Point was paying the bills and 30- Somethings and people who like 80's were listening. Regardless of the stations playlist.

 

[gamefreak]

Another reason why "The Point" survived so long was the set-up in the Tampa market. 102.9 in Jacksonville was successful up until 2005. When 96.9 The Eagle got lauched. Then 102.9 became the victim of Cluster Programming with The Eagle. Up until the 2009 lauch of X102-9 the station played a lot of the same Late 70's and 80's tracks as the Eagle. To make matters even worse in Jacksonville the Point never fully ventured past the Early 90's in terms of Music. Pretty much 102.9 The Point never ventured past its playlist when the station got lauched in 2000.

WPOI did oringinally had the same problem when "The Eagle" was lauched in 2004. However after 2 Years Cox added the entirely 90's decade to "The Point". Then left the Late 70's fare such as Supertramp, The Cars and even some early 80's rock fare to The Eagle. So the issue of Cluster Programming with The Eagle wasn't as bad as in Jacksonville and other Markets.

The Point up until friday still played most of the songs from its 2002 launch. However Cox did do some adding and subtracting to the list.

 

[DJghr1]

Listening to Hot 101.5 I must say I'm impressed, to say the least. The station sounds fresh, playing mostly a very tight current playlist with some recurrents from no more than 3 years ago thrown in. I believe the oldest song I heard was Beyonce's "Single Ladies", from 2008. It's upbeat, hip, and has that "party" type feel.

Kind of reminds me of a radio war from my childhood in the early/mid 80s in the Washington, DC market between WRQX, Q-107 (the CHR leader at the time) and 105 WAVA. WAVA at the time was fresh, new and ended up becoming one of Washington's biggest in CHR in the 80s. The only thing missing in Hot 101.5 is some good CHR compression/reverb (like KIIS-FM currently has).

 

[MsMusicRadio]

I agree. I remember driving my then 12 year old daughter on I-95 and we had to listen to AVA and Q107.3. Now she is 35 and misses WPOI cause is one year too old for Hot 101 :-\. CHR wars used to fun except now CHR has so many offshoot formats like Hot AC and Churban. If you want real CHR wars, how about WKNR v. CKLW or KRLA v. KHJ v. KFWB ?

 

[badjef]

I agree. I remember driving my then 12 year old daughter on I-95 and we had to listen to AVA and Q107.3. Now she is 35 and misses WPOI cause is one year too old for Hot 101 :-\. CHR wars used to fun except now CHR has so many offshoot formats like Hot AC and Churban. If you want real CHR wars, how about WKNR v. CKLW or KRLA v. KHJ v. KFWB ?

Sounds like a great thread...

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!

 

[jmtillery]

Old school thinking for a modern era radio station. And in the PPM world? How old are you, Jim?

First of all my name is Mark and not Jim. That is clearly noted within my signature found at the end of each of my posts.

Second my age is completely and totally irrelevant.

Third, old school or new school thinking is also irrelevant so long as the thinking works and accomplishes the overall desired objective.

Forth, listeners tune in to music radio for entertainment purposes regardless whether or not the market is measured using PPM or diary. Good programming verses bad programming is STILL good programming verses bad programming regardless how the ratings are measured.

Jingles will either add to or subtract from the overall entertainment value of the total programming same as the music selections or anything else that is a part of the total programming content. Jingles are not always necessary; However, in certain cases jingles do, in fact, add to the quality and entertainment value of the music programming.

In select instances jingles compliment news and news-talk formats, so jingles are not always limited to music only formats.

Again, anything, including, but limited to, jingles, that adds to the listeners pleasure and entertainment value will attract and keep listeners.

Whether you accept my explanation or not, your question has now been asked and answered twice.

 

[radiolives]

They sound real good playlist wise. I feel a little to much Gaga tho, Hot 101.5 I feel played just about all her hit songs. Sure people like her songs but I don't. But overall the station sounds good and has ways to go because they just started. Their main threat is 93.3 as they point that out in the video on the Hot 101.5 website. WiLD 94.1 doesn't have much to worry about.

 

[jmtillery]

The new Hot 101.5 does sound very good, and I imagine some tweaking and fine tuning will take place over the next few weeks and months in an effort to create just the right sound in addition to keeping the format sounding fresh, active, energetic and foreground. Time will tell just how well Hot 101.5 will perform overall and how much of an impact it will make in the market.

 

[austingrace]

the station actually sounds good. i did enjoy the point a lot but this is ok. i'm from orlando and coming down here was a nice change of pace. orlando radio really sucks. i just wished 97 x came in here in brandon a bit better but then again, i'm in an apartment building but that is beside the point.... no pun intended. it will be interesting to see how this station does in ratings against flz.

 

[badjef]

It is too soon to tell "Hot 101.5" how much impact will have on 'FLZ.

For the summer, 10,000 songs will probably beat flz. Usually does. It won't count in the long run. Hot will have to pay for itself or #1 means nothing.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!