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1530 MO -- The Sports Amateur

All Mo all the time.

What is it with the folks at CC? They do away with the Angry Guys, fire Jeff Piccoro, Paul Sturgeon, and pass on the obviously talented, professional-sounding, and apparently available Marc Amazon in favor of Tom Gamble wannabe Mo Eggar. And as if it isn’t enough hearing him on the air from 9-noon, he is now doing sports attacks in morning and afternoon drive plus covering the Bengals from Georgetown. His morning reports with Tim Lewis typically turn into ten minute discussions. So we get to hear even more Mo.

It would be one thing if he were listenable. But his immature, amateurish presentation would not seem appropriate for a 50,000-watt sports talk station in a medium large market. There was a time when guys like this cut their teeth in places like Lima and Peoria. But I guess this is what we get from corporate radio in the enlightened age of consolidation.

Mind you this is not a personal or professional attack on Mo. To his credit, he seems to know his sports and may be a nice enough guy. This post is directed toward those in charge. Has it gotten so bad that you are now paying minimum wage to on-air personalities in some of your larger markets? Why have you allowed someone who sounds so immature to be all over the place on your 50,000 watt sports talker? You are not doing Mo or yourselves any favors.

And before a certain poster replies and compares Cincinnati radio with his beloved hometown of Chicago, remember, this is not market #3. We are ranked 28th by Arbitron. But at the same time, we should not sound like market #251.

As I keep echoing in my increasingly infrequent posts here, radio is becoming less and less relevant all the time. The bad programming that is nestled within the huge blocks of commercials and clutter is no way to compete with Internet streams, ipods, and sat radio. The only thing that will keep people listening is LOCAL programming that is also GOOD.
 
Why do you all listen to radio shows you don't like? I'm not tryin to be a smarta$$..I *really* don't get it.

I mean...I can't stand Tracy Jones so I no longer listen to him. When it became obvious that the folks on the AM side of WPFB didn't care, I stopped listening to them.

I understand being passionate about radio, but....if you don't like a show, why are you listening????
 
So,observations...
first of all, regarding CC Cincinnati; does anyone think that the programming content actually matters? 1360 ran a full TWO HOURS friday night with a network sat feed indicating "this is ESPN MLBl channel 1 and NBA channel....etc.". There was absolutely no ESPN programming from 10 pm Friday till after midnight, when I checked back. "JT the Brick" (geez) was doing his thing on 1530 till 1 am, and at some point ESPN overnight resumed. TWO HOURS!!! So, no one called CC engineering, and/or programming...no sales staff, no programmers...no Darryl Parks? Since automation supplanted bored ops, we've all heard multiple mutliple simulcast for unacceptable periods of time on the same station, but this had to be one of the worst examples of the state of local radio. Not to mention the WLW news person heard earlier this week mispronouncing PHOTO-graphers, when it should have simply been 'photographers...'. Just the latest in a long list of really amateurish and unprofessional reads by the younger members of 'The Nations Station' award-winning News department.
And, while I'm on this rant...does anyone care that several of Tracy Jones'
signature callers are actually staged ringers...like Dick from Indian Hill, Rod...
gimme a break. Who is listening to this crap. The FQI?
I love it when CC corporate tries to tell the industry how they're going to save the medium they're all so freakin' passionate about. They couldn't stand to listen a quarter of a minute, let alone a quarter-hour. Ah, I know...the PPM will solver that issue. Absolute and total BS. From the inside out...shredded. With the exceptionally dry sense of humor and baseball knowledge TJ has, his show...with some creative direction...and, not from D Parks, could be a very interesting alternative to traditional sports talk, especially with the Reds sucking. That would require a real producer, a bit of writing for some ongoing bits, and some other elements to help Tracy best utilize his ability.
With cutbacks and shoestrings and skeleton crews...that ain't about to happen. Enjoy Dick from Indian Hill; this entire message was paid for and approved by the Indian Hill Garden Club and Taproot Vneyards.
 
not that i like either, but imagine if you're the "Cut-Man" doing the weekend and fill-in thing with Mo running the booth for you for years, then HE gets the next opening for a M-F gig over you? wow.

1530 is ran in a very obvious way, to me at least. Tim Lewis is on b/c he'll do nights at WLW in the newsroom - more bang for CC dollar. Mo and Greg are on b/c Mo is the young pup who kissed all the right @$$'s, and Greg is a guy whom called Lance's show one day, CC didn't know a SportsLine guy was based out of cincy, so he gets in - and i actually like him. Lance is the local guy who comes home from the big city and has the whole "sick kid" angle, which he's pimped waaaaay beyond good taste. no way Lance is anything but a mid-day guy in another market - he's too awkward with callers, and basically impersonal. his sitcom-dad persona is see through, and his latest book provides a sampling of how a lot of guys are seeing this.

he only diamond in the rough, surprisingly, is Doc. laid back yet informed and can carry a genuine conversation. furman is old news.
 
master_of_muppets said:
not that i like either, but imagine if you're the "Cut-Man" doing the weekend and fill-in thing with Mo running the booth for you for years, then HE gets the next opening for a M-F gig over you? wow.

1530 is ran in a very obvious way, to me at least. Tim Lewis is on b/c he'll do nights at WLW in the newsroom - more bang for CC dollar. Mo and Greg are on b/c Mo is the young pup who kissed all the right @$$'s, and Greg is a guy whom called Lance's show one day, CC didn't know a SportsLine guy was based out of cincy, so he gets in - and i actually like him. Lance is the local guy who comes home from the big city and has the whole "sick kid" angle, which he's pimped waaaaay beyond good taste. no way Lance is anything but a mid-day guy in another market - he's too awkward with callers, and basically impersonal. his sitcom-dad persona is see through, and his latest book provides a sampling of how a lot of guys are seeing this.

he only diamond in the rough, surprisingly, is Doc. laid back yet informed and can carry a genuine conversation. furman is old news.

the only one I agree with is Lewis.

Mo has never kissed anyone's a%$ ... Obviously you've never met him...
 
Mr. muppet...your assessment of the sports radio market is based on one of the most flawed, under-sampled Arbitron books in recent memory. There's no way that Lance actually dropped as much as was reported. I will keep pointing to the poor sampling by noting the 60% loss of audience by Bob & Tom in the 25-54 Men demo. It's just not real. Neither is the severe loss of audience on WEBN and WSWD.

You have been on record here as saying you hated the 2 Angry Guys, yet you enjoy Doyle? Wow.

The best sports radio lineup was on 1160 BOB before it was sold to Salem:

6-10 Angry Guys
10-1 Lance
1-4 Tim Lewis
4-7 Lap and the Fish

Each host was in their perfect daypart.
 
the 2AGs were just bad radio. simple as that. constant talking over each other.... skinny chimming in on things said minutes before hand, not to mention his pre-puberty voice... gamble interrupting himself constantly, never finishing a thought... the lack of humor on the show...the constant complaining, year after year after year. as they'd say: COME 'ON!

doyle "gets it." he gets it the same way a lot of locals don't. after moving here a few years ago i met a girl at the gym, also a transplant, who referred to cincy as "the bermuda triangle of the midwest." things are just strange around here. twain was right. doyle has a good voice, he's hip to what's going on in the local and national sports scene, he isn't afraid to call out someone (and not for ratings, a la furman). i get the sense that doyle has nothing to lose. if he gets canned, oh well. back to CBS SportsLine. basically he reminds me of the kind of hosts in the chicago area - the guys i grew up listening to and on air today.

as for the book - yeah, it might be undersampled, but it's not 100% garbage. there is a lot of bad vibes for lance in cincy lately. he's getting to be a bit full of himself.
 
Please Mr. muppet...Do you read blogs and boards from other cities? "This city is the worst." "This has to be the worst city in the world." "Radio in this town is the worst in the US!" Just a sample of what I read everyday on chat boards and blogs from around the country. People in Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Baltimore are harder on themselves than people here.

Say what you want about the 2AGs and Doyle. I haven't heard ONE person say they like Doyle. These people know I was once connected to the business and they ask what's going on. They liked Gamble and Skinner, but Doyle not so much. His attitude almost seems fake or forced. Not listenable either.

Where are you getting these "vibes" about Lance? WCKY will rebound in afternoons in the fall.
 
well don't get your pants in too big a knot. the 2AGs will be back for your listening pleasure soon enough.
don't get me wrong - i understand completely why they were/are popular here. their humorless show, centered around endless complaining, is a perfect fit for a city with the same personality. before moving here i was told/warned about cincy - that it was a cold/rude little city stuck some 10-20 years socially behind the times. i'm an optimist, so i didn't pay attention. i see now what they were talking about.
 
Wow. Now who has his pants in a wad?

When you can't argue your point, just attack.

Nice to see you haven't learned your lesson about being condescending.
 
master_of_muppets said:
well don't get your pants in too big a knot. the 2AGs will be back for your listening pleasure soon enough.
don't get me wrong - i understand completely why they were/are popular here. their humorless show, centered around endless complaining, is a perfect fit for a city with the same personality. before moving here i was told/warned about cincy - that it was a cold/rude little city stuck some 10-20 years socially behind the times. i'm an optimist, so i didn't pay attention. i see now what they were talking about.


You couldn’t help yourself, could you? Despite what I asked in my OP. Every thread you jump into you inevitably boil down to it being a problem with this city and the people here. Predictably, you can’t see that your posts actually reveal you to be everything you accuse Cincinnati of being. If it is so bad here, please move back to Chicago. At least I’m big enough to say to you what a great city it is. You on the other hand have closed your little mind to what a unique and wonderful city this is as well. Not sure why you are so bitter and unhappy. If I didn’t know any better I’d guess it’s because nobody in the biz here will hire you.

Now, back to the topic. Would anyone else care to tell me what CC is thinking when it comes to Mo? I really am curious.
 
After reading your initial post I thought I'd give them a listen again. First, I listened to Sunday Morning Sports Talk on 700. Doyle was complaining about the treatment he gets in the Reds locker room from Dunn and Griffey. Does he think they're going to pick him up and hug him after some of the things he's said about them? I think the problem is that he deals in absolutes. "Doug Johnson (Bengals backup QB ) is horrible" I've heard him say. Why do sportstalk hosts think they have to speak like that? Actually, Doug Johnson isn't horrible, he's proven himself to men who forget more about football in a day than Doyle knows. That's why he's in the NFL and on the team. Then I tuned in to their show today. Pretty much the same ol same ol. Two guys trying to act like every moronic caller to the Jim Rome show isn't very entertaining to me.Then there was an inside shot at Tom Gamble that I thought was a waste of airtime. I know Tom and his tendancy to call people by a certain word. But the other 99.9 % of the listeners had no clue what you were talking about. My advice to Greg and Mo is to stop trying to act like the experts you're not and actually carry on some conversations with callers about your topics. I like to listen to sports talk radio but the constant negativity really starts to wear on you after a while. I'm not saying tow the company line for the teams but, for the love of God, try and balance it out just a little. The constant bashing pretty much paints an image in the audience mind of you being the fat kid who got picked last and then got pantsed by the catcher when you came to bat. The problem here, as it is with a lot of sports talk shows, is that they simply cater to the 20 some odd sports infatuated losers that call every show to offer their two cents and not to the extremely larger chunk of the audience who wouldn't pick up the phone if you paid them to do it. This bigger chunk wants to be entertained and hear some actual talk about sports that isn't all negative.
 
folks, i'd move back to chicago - or a few other places - today if i could. but i am married to a local girl, and moved here for her. i have a great job, and live in a part of the city where my children will get an outstanding education. i like the city. as a side gig i have written several pieces about cincy for small market tourism promotionals. it's most locals i find interesting and odd. if you read my posts as some dude sitting here, scowling, upset and bitter to be living in cincy, walking around with the glass-half-empty mentality, you're reading me wrong. if you listen to doyle and think he's really "complaining" then you don't get him, either. in either case, it's not worth the time explaining it, other than to suggest that you change the mental tone of how you perceive.
 
master_of_muppets said:
if you listen to doyle and think he's really "complaining" then you don't get him, either. in either case, it's not worth the time explaining it, other than to suggest that you change the mental tone of how you perceive.

My mental perception works just fine. thank you. I get the schtick. But complaining is complaining whether it's genuine or not. That's not the point I was trying to make. My point was that it's just not very compelling radio. It all goes back to the all negative all the time vibe on most sports talk radio. Most hosts act very condescending to the callers and in return come off that way to all the listeners as well. I just want to be able to hear some intelligent sports talk without the "he's horrible", "they should trade him, he sucks", and the whole "I know what's best for the team cause I flap my butt-kisser about sports for three hours a day" attitude they exude. Plus, listeners shouldn't have to change their "mental tone" to listen to a sports talk show or any program for that matter. That's like McDonalds saying "Okay, so you don't like our McNuggets. Just pretend they're something else when you eat them and you'll like them!" It's the hosts job to make themselves as compelling to as many people as possible. Just remember this one last thing, listeners don't adapt. They just change the channel.
 
master_of_muppets said:
if you read my posts as some dude sitting here, scowling, upset and bitter to be living in cincy, walking around with the glass-half-empty mentality, you're reading me wrong.
Considering that the majority of your posts are constructed like this, then how in the heck are we supposed to read you?
 
if you read my posts as some dude sitting here, scowling, upset and bitter to be living in cincy, walking around with the glass-half-empty mentality, you're reading me wrong.

Speaking as someone who actually doesn't find you as irritating as others on here, I must disagree with you on that statement.

You're WRITING them wrong.

Trust me, brotha....that's EXACTLY how you're coming across.l
 
DJJack1 said:
Why do you all listen to radio shows you don't like? I'm not tryin to be a smarta$$..I *really* don't get it.


Come to think of it, how many of us have WORKED for stations that we didn't like?
 
<raises hand> oo me me! I did..I did!!

KNAB Burlington, Colorado. Population of just under three thousand...and it was the BIG town in the area.

Music by dead people...for dead peoplle.

Our sales guy got the gig when his Ben Franklin store went under.

I did all the commercials and a thirty minute afternoon newscasts..complete with farm reports and obituaries.

Insomnia was NEVER a problem.

The station wasn't bad...it was just the location. I'm not made for prairrie life, I guess. lol
 
Somewhat back on topic:

Didn't CC fire Greg Wadell a short time ago? He would have been much better than Mo, et. al, that are on now. Poor judge of talent, in my opinion.

No, we're not related..........

Tom
 
major said:
Somewhat back on topic:

Didn't CC fire Greg Wadell a short time ago? He would have been much better than Mo, et. al, that are on now. Poor judge of talent, in my opinion.

No, we're not related..........

Tom

you must not remember that wadell had an unofficiall contest with seg dennison to see who could fit the most "umm's" and "ahhhh's" into a 1 minute segment. he consistently prounounced names incorrectly and was more awkward with callers than lance.
 
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