95.5 The Boss Sold

[Andyf101]

Spanish is a language, not a format.

Aside from you, who really cares what it's called?

Andy

I do. You should too. So much money in the Hispanic community to be ignored. Apperently, Clear Channel didn't ignore it. That has to tell you something.

CC's in the toilet, hence the failed go-private deal. Not worth taking into account what they are doing (or not doing), as they have shown us all what a fine company they are. :

Andy

Ohhhhhhh, and we should take your opinion because you own which company?????? ........................................exactly!.

Like them or not, you cannot go anywhere in the U.S. without coming accross Clear Channel. Have to admit, some of the things they do aren't the brightest, but when they are one of the biggest Radio Companies in the world, I would shure damn take them into conssideration.

Who said I own any company? CC's major blunder if suing the banks to get their go-private deal, was beyond stupid. In fact it’s downright frivolous. Do you realize what will happen if they win that suit? I mean do you really realize what would happen? Every company and every person who has ever been in a similar situation might as well do the same thing.

Andy

 

[oldjohnny]

Spanish is a language, not a format.

Aside from you, who really cares what it's called?

Andy

I do. You should too. So much money in the Hispanic community to be ignored. Apperently, Clear Channel didn't ignore it. That has to tell you something.

CC's in the toilet, hence the failed go-private deal. Not worth taking into account what they are doing (or not doing), as they have shown us all what a fine company they are. :

Andy

Ohhhhhhh, and we should take your opinion because you own which company?????? ........................................exactly!.

Like them or not, you cannot go anywhere in the U.S. without coming accross Clear Channel. Have to admit, some of the things they do aren't the brightest, but when they are one of the biggest Radio Companies in the world, I would shure damn take them into conssideration.

Who said I own any company? CC's major blunder if suing the banks to get their go-private deal, was beyond stupid. In fact it’s downright frivolous. Do you realize what will happen if they win that suit? I mean do you really realize what would happen? Every company and every person who has ever been in a similar situation might as well do the same thing.

Andy

My point to prove was that no matter how bad or good your competition is, it is very, (and let me emphasize on that), VERY, VERY stupid to ignore them. Especially if it is a company as big as Clear Channel. You know damn well Univision didn't ignore them when they launched "La Preciosa" as they fired back with a move of their own. I know damn well KVIL also was wide aware of Sunny 97.1 when they came around. I'm shure glad you aren't running CC, if CC is in this whole right now, imagine how much worse it could be doing if they had your managing skills.

 

[Andyf101]

Spanish is a language, not a format.

Aside from you, who really cares what it's called?

Andy

I do. You should too. So much money in the Hispanic community to be ignored. Apperently, Clear Channel didn't ignore it. That has to tell you something.

CC's in the toilet, hence the failed go-private deal. Not worth taking into account what they are doing (or not doing), as they have shown us all what a fine company they are. :

Andy

Ohhhhhhh, and we should take your opinion because you own which company?????? ........................................exactly!.

Like them or not, you cannot go anywhere in the U.S. without coming accross Clear Channel. Have to admit, some of the things they do aren't the brightest, but when they are one of the biggest Radio Companies in the world, I would shure damn take them into conssideration.

Who said I own any company? CC's major blunder if suing the banks to get their go-private deal, was beyond stupid. In fact it’s downright frivolous. Do you realize what will happen if they win that suit? I mean do you really realize what would happen? Every company and every person who has ever been in a similar situation might as well do the same thing.

Andy

My point to prove was that no matter how bad or good your competition is, it is very, (and let me emphasize on that), VERY, VERY stupid to ignore them. Especially if it is a company as big as Clear Channel. You know damn well Univision didn't ignore them when they launched "La Preciosa" as they fired back with a move of their own. I know damn well KVIL also was wide aware of Sunny 97.1 when they came around. I'm shure glad you aren't running CC, if CC is in this whole right now, imagine how much worse it could be doing if they had your managing skills.

WOAH!!! Slow down a bit... My point was it's not worth paying attention to what CC calls their format. This whole thing ws merely about "Spanish is a language, not a format". You're taking this into another direction.

Andy

 

[lbates]

Andy ,if what he said its true or possible..could you please get hired as the guy in charge of CC programming,perhaps we can have "radio" back again..

 

[Andyf101]

Andy ,if what he said its true or possible..could you please get hired as the guy in charge of CC programming,perhaps we can have "radio" back again..

Ha! Heck I wonder if there will even be a CC, in say a year from now. With any luck, CC will be forced to dissolve and sell, and some local buyers will scoop 'em up. Then, maybe we can have radio back again. 8)

Well hey, I can dream, right? ;D

Andy

 

[Jay Weaver]

Now you're talking! I see that as a real possiblity and it is already happeneing in the smaller markets! What is really amazing is that we all see their problems, but they can't see them! I'm serious! Proof again that they don't really understand radio and don't know what the heck they are doing.
It's a shame what they have done to radio!

Jay :-[

 

[rbrucecarter5]

Ha! Heck I wonder if there will even be a CC, in say a year from now. With any luck, CC will be forced to dissolve and sell, and some local buyers will scoop 'em up. Then, maybe we can have radio back again. 8)

We all know the connection between iBiquity and CC. CC has been hemmoraging money into HD radio for years now, it hasn't been a success in the marketplace, and both companies are probably going into chapter 11 soon. It is inevitable, given the amount of money they have lost.

 

[Andyf101]

Well I'm not sure if it's a case of CC not seeing their problems, or they do see them but refuse to acknowledge it and / or refuse to admit it. Whatever the situation, the usual method of operation for a bad company, is the path CC is on. Personally, I see this as a long overdue wake-up call for all corporate radio. It's time to go back to the basics, you know the stuff that defines what radio should be. The past 12 years of degregulated radio have been a long nightmare. Forget what the consultants say, it's all of the frustrated listeners that deserve corporate radio's attention.

Andy

 

[lbates]

Amen. As long as you have the Little ones, and the D.e.'s in the thick of it and their spinology madness,they will never truly see the forest for the trees ,thus radio will never be "radio".

 

[NOTfunny01]

Any advice for some of the fallout from this sale? Maybe somebody's looking?

Employees at the station were 'guaranteed' that no changes would be made to programming.

Did you know the old People to People program from KBOC still survives at KJKB?

 

[War Of Attrition]

We all know the connection between iBiquity and CC. CC has been hemmoraging money into HD radio for years now, it hasn't been a success in the marketplace, and both companies are probably going into chapter 11 soon. It is inevitable, given the amount of money they have lost.

This is the dumbest and most uninformed post I have seen this calendar year. Good job.

Do you really expect the billion or so radios that are the current installed base in the US to be replaced overnight? The transition to digital is a long-term map and will not happen in a day, month, or year. The companies that have deployed HD in Dallas are in it for the long haul.

Both companies are NOT about to go into chapter 11! Clear Channel has a very strong balance sheet and generates mountains of cashflow every quarter. Do you know how they did in fiscal 2007? Try nearly a billion dollars of net profit! Not revenue, but profit. How do you come up with this rubbish?

 

[davideduardo]

We all know the connection between iBiquity and CC. CC has been hemmoraging money into HD radio for years now, it hasn't been a success in the marketplace, and both companies are probably going into chapter 11 soon.

First, about a dozen broadcast companies and several investment firms did the original round of financing for iBiquity. They are ABC, Beasley, Bonneville, Citadel, Clear Channel, Cox Radio, Cumulus, Emmis, Entercom, Others include manufacturers like Ford Motor Company, Harris Corporation, Texas Instruments and Visteon Corporation. The financial institutions are Grotech Capital Group, Intel Capital, J.P. Morgan Partners, New Venture Partners and Pequot Capital.

Clear Channel and the other broadcasters each have small investments that are not even significant enough for disclosure in these companies SEC filings, which you can check on line.

iBiquity just obtained additional capital for facilities expansion and ongoing operations. It certainly looks like a company that is not in danger. Clear cash flows huge amounts of money, $2.2 billion in 2007 which you can see at http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=CCU and suggesting that it is near bankruptcy is absurd and irresponsible.

 

[Andyf101]

I find it extremely funny when people claim HD will become popular, etc. HD was dead in the water from the get-go. Ibiquity's system is loaded with proprietary technology and secrets, not to mention the compatibility issues with other digital systems.

And have we all forgotten how little in the way of in-store promotion HD has been getting?

Lastly, let's all remember that unlike HDTV, HD Radio is not mandatory.

Suffice it to say, "IBOC" is going the way of AM Stereo.

Andy

 

[War Of Attrition]

Ibiquity's system is loaded with proprietary technology and secrets, not to mention the compatibility issues with other digital systems.

What do you mean compatibility issues with other digital systems? What kind of non-sensical statement is that? HD Radio is the only digital system in this country. DRE and FMeXtra have no support outside of a handful of irrelevant small-market test stations. Not a single major broadcasting company will even touch it. Read that last sentence again. There is nothing to be compatible with.

Lastly, let's all remember that unlike HDTV, HD Radio is not mandatory.

HDTV is NOT mandatory. Digital TV is. Learn the difference.

Suffice it to say, "IBOC" is going the way of AM Stereo.

No, it is not suffice to say that. Look, we (as an industry) are still just at the beginning of this long-term transition. Just a year and half in. It is violently hilarious that you, Bruce, and everyone else who hasn't even given HD Radio a chance think that a billion radios are going to be replaced just because new radios come out. This is a 10 year process at the least. The current goal is two-fold: to generate awareness and to get HD Radio chipsets into everything. That doesn't happen overnight and doesn't happen in the first 18 months.

 

[Andyf101]

Ibiquity's system is loaded with proprietary technology and secrets, not to mention the compatibility issues with other digital systems.

What do you mean compatibility issues with other digital systems? What kind of non-sensical statement is that? HD Radio is the only digital system in this country. DRE and FMeXtra have no support outside of a handful of irrelevant small-market test stations. Not a single major broadcasting company will even touch it. Read that last sentence again. There is nothing to be compatible with.

Lastly, let's all remember that unlike HDTV, HD Radio is not mandatory.

HDTV is NOT mandatory. Digital TV is. Learn the difference.

Suffice it to say, "IBOC" is going the way of AM Stereo.

No, it is not suffice to say that. Look, we (as an industry) are still just at the beginning of this long-term transition. Just a year and half in. It is violently hilarious that you, Bruce, and everyone else who hasn't even given HD Radio a chance think that a billion radios are going to be replaced just because new radios come out. This is a 10 year process at the least. The current goal is two-fold: to generate awareness and to get HD Radio chipsets into everything. That doesn't happen overnight and doesn't happen in the first 18 months.

It's pretty obvious to me you aren't fully informed on HD Radio.

The incompatible issues primarily relate to digital radio in other countries. This includes Eureka-147, DAB+ and DRM. The DAB system has been the standard choice for many other countries outside the U.S. Before you dismiss this as irrelevant, consider the costs for both broadcasters and consumers. For example, are you planning a summer vacation outside the U.S.? Do you want to listen to the DAB stations while you are vacationing? You'll need a DAB compatible radio. Then there is the issue of Codecs. AAC Codecs are publicly documented standards in use for numerous software and computer applications. The HDC codec Ibiquity uses is a trade secret. As a result, receiver manufacturers for HDC, must license it through Ibiquity.

Another factor is the lack of true promotion of what HD sounds like. Ibiquity cites it by saying the FM band approaches CD quality. Guess what, when you start multiplexing HD streams, bandwidth must be reduced to make room for those extra programming choices. So an FM station offering HD1, HD2, and HD3 streams, won't be able to offer CD quality audio, as each stream requires bandwidth within the spectrum.

I also have heard Ibiquity is seeking FCC approval to encrypt the HD streams, forcing listeners to pay subscription fees to listen to the HD content on future HD radios. NDS and Ibiquity already have a deal in place to encrypt the data. If that happens, you can pretty much expect current HD radios will probably become incompatible.

Andy