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93-3TheSurge said:
I really doubt you can pick up WHOM in Montreal, as it's about 150 miles (as the crow flies) from the tower. If you can't pick up WHOM in Rouses Point, NY (on the border) I just don't see it getting into Montreal. If you bought the best antenna money can buy from ccradio.com, there is a possibility it could come in "barely perceptible" at best, but I doubt it.

Depending on how reliable of a signal you want, I don't doubt in the least you could get WHOM in Montreal with a decent antenna. Though I'm not certain ccradio.com sells decent antennas. My antenna is not the best you can get (though it is decent) and it's been beaten up by the weather. I have no problems receiving stations 200-250-300 miles away -- maybe not 100% of the time but copyable 20-50% of the time.

Again, if it were to amp up to 500kw, or even the legal 100kw, it might have a shot (WHOM currently operates at 48kw).

According to the FCC's Curves program http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/curves.html WHOM's existing facility delivers 26.842dBu of signal to the reference coordinates of Montreal. Doubling WHOM's power to 100kw adds 3dB. "Curves" won't go to 500kw. Going to 400kw would increase the signal by 9dB. 9dB I would imagine someone would notice. 3dB is the threshold of audibility.

Also, CBF is on 100.7, and there isn't a 95.1 in Montreal. WYUL is on 94-7 and would cause interference in Montreal.

I hope there's a station on 95.1 in Montreal because I've heard it..... Seriously, the CBF-FM on 100.7 changed calls some years ago. They shut down the CBF AM 690 transmitter years ago, moving its programs to a new FM transmitter on 95.1. The CBF-FM calls were moved from 100.7 to 95.1 and 100.7 assigned new calls CBFX-FM.

Certainly, you'd need either a highly selective receiver or for CBF-FM and WYUL to go away. In a time before either of those stations existed I don't think you'd have any trouble hearing WHOM there.
 
Scott Fybush said:
See where it says "for entertainment purposes only" on the bottom of that radio-locator page you're getting your information from? Yeah...it means it, especially where Canadian data is concerned.

I realize that. For the most part, radio-locator is pretty much dead on as far as FM stations go. AM, not so much, especially the nighttime maps. As far as CBF, yes, it is on 95-1. My apologies.

Scott Fybush said:
you could absolutely hear WHOM in patches around Montreal.

Patches around Montreal, I could see that. Having to pull it in with a special antenna doesn't qualify as being able to pick it up in Montreal.

Scott Fybush said:
Oh, and about that "legal" 100 kW? If WHOM were operating as a standard class C facility, it would be running 27.6 kW, derated for height above the 100 kW/600 meter class maximum. It's already grandfathered in 2.4 dB stronger than it would be if it were built today. Pushing it up to 100 kW ERP would only give it another 2 dB bump in Montreal, which is pretty close to insignificant.

Good info about Class C radio stations, I wasn't aware of that. I was speaking about FM stations in general, with the maximum wattage allowed being 100kw. I don't understand how increasing it to 100kw would only give it another 2db, but I'll take your word for it.
 
Well. I know WWV is Shortwave. But did not know their towers were not on top of the mountain. I suggested WWV because I thought they were on top of the mountain in Colorado. (sadly Im nuts and Forgot what its called)
 
Northern Front Range, perhaps?

Anytime I hear someone mention Ft Collins (which has been exactly 3 times), I always think of Cartman going to the pube fair.

"One million dollars!!!"
 
How is it that you can pick up WWV from anywhere in the US? Shortwave or not, you would think the signal would fall short at some point. I don't have too much knowledge of shortwave radio. Is there a shortwave station in Dallas or Houston that is comparable to WWV?
 
Different wavelengths propagate very differently.

Medium-wave frequencies (what we'd call "AM Radio") generally propagate only by groundwave during daylight hours, but at night they can reflect off an ionized layer of the atmosphere to carry much longer distances via skywave.

VHF frequencies (FM and TV) propagate primarily by line of sight - once the curvature of the earth prevents the transmitting location from "seeing" the receiving location, the signal's gone, no matter how much power it's putting out. (The only exception is during unusual ionospheric and atmospheric conditions that produce tropospheric ducting or E-skip, but this is not dependable reception.)

Shortwave frequencies, however, hit a magic spot in the ionosphere where pretty much all propagation is via skywave. By using several frequencies at different shortwave bands (2.5, 5, 10, 15 and 20 MHz), there's generally always a WWV frequency that hits whatever "sweet spot" of propagation gets it from Fort Collins to just about anywhere in the country.

There are indeed shortwave stations in Texas. I forget the current calls, but there's one in Dallas that used to be affiliated with KCBI-FM there.

In theory, private SW stations in the US are supposed to be aiming their programming at locations outside the country; in practice, it's common for a station in Texas to say it's aiming at "eastern Canada" - and it just happens to cover most of the eastern and central US along the way.
 
Scott Fybush said:
...in practice, it's common for a station in Texas to say it's aiming at "eastern Canada" - and it just happens to cover most of the eastern and central US along the way.

"...and this is Paul Kallinger, your good neighbor along the way."

Well it is a Texas radio reference. ;)

Back in the Wolfman Jack days when XERF 1570 was supposedly putting out
250 gallons, how wide was their nighttime skywave coverage?

I'm guessing the groundwave wasn't all that much to uh, "howl" about, what
with it being at the high end of the dial, and no Wolfman during the day.
 
I seem to remember 1570 have a crystal clear Night Signal in Wichita Kansas at night.
1570 still hammers here in Texas. Though with MAYBE 50kW now.
XERF used to be heard regularly In Canada I think too.
 
I remember reading that the station was able to be picked up in Russia and that the KGB listened to to practice their English. Just did a quick google search which confirms that:

"From its high-gain antenna, it blasted its way north, right through Canada, all the way over the Pole, and into Russia with a clear signal. For many years, the NKVD/KGB spy school used it for English practice."

http://www.modestoradiomuseum.org/story of xerf.html
 
Scott Fybush said:
There are indeed shortwave stations in Texas. I forget the current calls, but there's one in Dallas that used to be affiliated with KCBI-FM there.

Scott, I think you were talking about the old ex-KCBI-SW. I don't recall the call sign after it was sold to Gene Scott, but FYI it is gone from the area. The transmitter site on US-380 in Collin county is completely bare now. The TCI antenna system, support towers and building are now a plowed field. Must have lost the lease I guess.
Jay Walker

P.S. I really enjoy your website.
 
dismuke said:
I remember reading that the station was able to be picked up in Russia and that the KGB listened to to practice their English. Just did a quick google search which confirms that:

"From its high-gain antenna, it blasted its way north, right through Canada, all the way over the Pole, and into Russia with a clear signal. For many years, the NKVD/KGB spy school used it for English practice."

http://www.modestoradiomuseum.org/story of xerf.html

Gee....Dismuke. It sure helps to actually read the article before pulling out a quote highlighted on a Google search.

Now that I actually read the article through, I see that the quote I put up actually referred to XERA, a predecessor station to XERF and which was officially at least twice as powerful.

I have read about XERF being heard in Russia - but now I wonder if wherever I read that might have been confused with XERA. Or maybe XERF also went that far.
 
The book "Border Blasters" by Gene Fowler & Bill Crawford has a chapter about XERF & Wolfman Jack. I believe it mentions that XERF was heard regularly all the way into parts of the USSR & that it sounded local in Kansas & even parts of New York. It's said to have been 250kw in Fowler & Crawford's book & on Wikepedia. Growing up in Dallas County, I remember that XERF could be heard on just about any radio as soon as 1570 in Terrell signed off.

I'm not sure if there are any Border Blasters today. I think they're pretty much gone.
 
dfaulkner said:
I'm not sure if there are any Border Blasters today. I think they're pretty much gone.

XEG on 1050 AM out of Monterrey is a former border blaster that is still around and still transmits at 100,000 watts. These days, they play ranchera music. I am told that the station can be picked up in Canada.
 
dismuke said:
dfaulkner said:
I'm not sure if there are any Border Blasters today. I think they're pretty much gone.

XEG on 1050 AM out of Monterrey is a former border blaster that is still around and still transmits at 100,000 watts. These days, they play ranchera music. I am told that the station can be picked up in Canada.

Heard XEG in Lakewood 0435 - 0445 this morning. Heard them do a station ID @ 0445.
 
dfaulkner said:
dismuke said:
dfaulkner said:
I'm not sure if there are any Border Blasters today. I think they're pretty much gone.

XEG on 1050 AM out of Monterrey is a former border blaster that is still around and still transmits at 100,000 watts. These days, they play ranchera music. I am told that the station can be picked up in Canada.

Heard XEG in Lakewood 0435 - 0445 this morning. Heard them do a station ID @ 0445.



I used to listen to XEG a lot whenever I found myself driving late at night. I simply cannot stomach most American pop after the mid 1960s. So if there is not any interesting talk programing, my choices on the radio dial are very limited. I can put up with KAAM and WRR in very limited doses and occasionally hear something I like on both. But if I am driving late at night, I usually want something that will keep me awake and not put me to sleep.

These days, I have become a big fan of the Midnight Trucking show on WBAP, of all things. I do not drive an 18 wheeler and the various truck specific content does not interest me. But most of the program is devoted to normal talk show type material - and the hosts on the program often discuss the issues of the day with far more intelligence and insight than certain nationally syndicated hosts I have occasionally tuned into. So that is now my default program to listen to late at night. But a few years ago, that option did not exist.

I like XEG specifically because, unlike most American based Spanish language stations, the music it plays has largely avoided the influence of post mid 1960s American pop. Most American Spanish langauge stations these days to me sound like little more than "soft rock" with a Mexican twist and Spanish lyrics. A little bit of the modern nastiness can be heard here and there in XEG's music - but not to an overwhelming degree. As a result, they music they play tends to be quite melodic and, at the same time, has a nice beat. And the beat is sometimes quite "old fashioned" in that you will actually hear waltzes and polkas.

To me, the only real downside is I don't speak Spanish and sometimes it can be a bit too heavy on the "oompa oompa" in the same way that traditional German folk music can be. But I can stomach "oompa oompa" more than a lot of other stuff on the radio. On the other hand, once in a while, they will play a song that I regard as OUTSTANDING and would actually be interested in buying a copy of - and, unfortunately, since I cannot understand the lyrics or the announcements, the moment simply passes and I have no way of knowing the artist, title or where to locate a copy.

Here is a wikipedia article on the musical genre: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranchera

The other thing I find interesting about XEG is the style of the announcers and some of the commercials. They are far more expressive than radio announcers in the US are - to a very exaggerated degree. And they frequently apply heavy doses of reverb making it sound like the announcers are in an echo chamber. Again, I don't speak a word of Spanish so I have no idea what on earth they are talking about. Whatever it is, they are obviously pretty excited about it. I listen to the station and wish I did speak Spanish - and wonder if I actually did know what they are talking about if it would be less interesting.

Like I said, I don't listen very much these days on nighttime AM drift. But once in awhile, if I find myself in the mood for something very different, I will tune in the station online through its website at:
http://www.nucleoradio.com/ranchera/
 
Ya know, I'm wondering what ever became of the original 95.9 thread?

Anyway, for years the broadcast rights to XEG when it was a bible thumpin' border blaster were controlled by a program consolidator out of St. Louis (name escapes me). He also handled time brokerage for other religious stations around the country.

My favorite old XEG program was for a "see-er" who called herself "Mother Divine." It was 15 minutes long and it was the same thing over and over, about 12 minutes of a male announcer trumpeting the amazing powers this woman had, being able to tell you your future and on and on. It was a great script and the announcer's delivery was passionate. "Mother" would be heard only briefly in what sounded like Caribbean or Cajun accented English with some very generic statement about the your future. The show would end with a mailing address mention which I believe was either St. Louis or New Orleans (can't remember).

I hope the time investment paid off for her!

XEG also was the radio home of Reverend Ike...enough said!

They had a jingle too, I know I've got it on tape someplace but it wasn't anything approaching TM or Pams quality. In other words it fit the "dollar a holler" programming they broadcast at night.

And yes I remember the pre-recorded Paul Kallinger on XERF back then too.

That was some cool radio, heard in the late 70's before Mexico started reclaiming their AM band. Anybody wanna buy a box of baby chicks?
 
317C50KW said:
And yes I remember the pre-recorded Paul Kallinger on XERF back then too.

That was some cool radio, heard in the late 70's before Mexico started reclaiming their AM band. Anybody wanna buy a box of baby chicks?

With the disclaimers that ``sex or breed not guaranteed'' and ``...some chicks may be dead on delivery''.
 
317C50KW said:
Ya know, I'm wondering what ever became of the original 95.9 thread?

It seems to have evolved into a Border Blaster/Dxing thread...quite interesting & fun...

But I'm not ordering any baby chicks...I've heard the disclaimers. ;D
 
317C50KW said:
Ya know, I'm wondering what ever became of the original 95.9 thread?

Well, gee, but we are still talking about it.....kind of.... sort of.... in a way. Wasn't the thread about creating a giant "superstation" so that folks in rural East Texas could pick up a big time big city station with big city hosts talking about big city news and traffic and such?

Well, it just so happens to turn out that we already have one, don't we? You can pick up XEG loud and clear in East Texas - and I am quite sure that lots of people do in order to keep up with what's going on back home. Can't be much more of a "superstation" in North America than 100,000 watts on a nighttime clear channel. And Monterrey (population 2,056,538) is an even bigger city than Dallas (population 1,279,910).

Only problem is it works only at night. But here's what we can do: convert WOAI in San Antionio and KRLD in Dallas into 50,000 daytime translators for XEG. KRLD's daytime signal goes into East Texas. A quick look at radio-locator.com shows that XEG's, WOAI's and KRLD's daytime signals don't quite overlap - so one could get a smaller translator in McAllen for a bit of a boost and then convert the two daytime stations in Texas on 1050, one in Killeen and the other in suburban Houston to 50,000 watts daytime coverage as well.

Presto. We have a 24 hour "superstation" even bigger than the one we were talking about - broadcasting to the sticks from an even bigger city!

Of course, there will be some who will not be so keen on the idea of such a station as many listeners will undoubtedly be undocumented. Should we really be making such people feel so at home? But no problem - opponents could send Chris Krok to the FCC to yell and protest with his bullhorn. Krok might even accuse XEG's owners of being possessed by Satan the way he did a caller on his show in Minnesota.

See - if you venture a bit off topic, you can always just make what you are talking about topical! :D
 
317C50KW said:
Ya know, I'm wondering what ever became of the original 95.9 thread?

Yeah, the thread sort of took on a mind of its own, but in a positive way, of course.

Dismuke, we have been talking about an FM superstation, but an AM superstation, that would be very interesting. I would enlist 680AM out of San Antonio, and 570AM out of Dallas. And while we are at it, throw in KCTA 1030AM out of Corpus Christi. That station is a waste of 50kW. Nothing against a Christian format, but I wish it would do more (i.e. become an affiliate of a sports team's radio network).

XEG is certainly still a border blaster. I pick it up here in Austin no problem, and I have picked it up as north as Kansas. I'm not sure if it goes all the way to Canada, but it probably does. We talked about the KGB listening to English-speaking stations, well XEG helped me earn an A in Span IV. La Ranchera de Monterrey!!

Since we are on border blasters, does anyone know how far north XEROK 800AM out of Juarez goes? I can't pick it up here in Austin, but I imagine it travels better north and south.
 
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