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A Change Coming to KGO

People go online to get fantasy sports info & sports gambling odds. They don't listen to a cadre of blabbermouths on the radio (especially on a crackly AM station with old person stench) hoping to come across a topic of interest.

Again, SiriusXM has a staffed, in-house fantasy sports channel and has had one for some time. There's interest out there. It may not be enough to move the meter ratings-wise, but anyone who listens to "blabbermouths" offering tips on cashing bets is a potential customer for that channel or station's advertisers, much the same as listeners to the "blabbermouths" on Bloomberg Radio are for advertisers offering tips on successful "investing," as gambling is known in the financial world. No one is listening to this stuff for light entertainment; they're all out to make some money.
 
I'm scanning the AM band tonight, and I just came across KNX Los Angeles, coming in loud and mostly clear (my computer monitor is, unsurprisingly, causing a bunch of noise). It's still broadcasting on 1070, evidently, but they're emphasizing 97.1 FM (last I listened, it was always "KNX 1070", but now it's "KNX News, 97.1 FM" So, they're not getting rid of their AM yet, but they do seem to be de-emphasizing its importance.

That said, who owns KNX? Audacy?

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True and KCBS Radio has been de emphasizing 740 AM for some time mainly to get listeners over to 106.9 FM going back to when CBS Radio managed KCBS and KFRC. That started in San Francisco and some of that was about the median audience using FM over AM when the FM simulcast started. Now it's about this one considering that newer cars have dashboard apps that radio and podcast outlets are adapting to newer tech which is at play in this decade.




 
So if sports stations are already doing this, why do we need a whole new network of sports betting stations. Won’t they be pulling listeners away from traditional sports stations? Or maybe the fans of the existing sports stations won’t be interested in the new competition? Can there be too much sports on the radio?
Let's say you're the PD of KNBR. Your listeners punch the button sometimes. Fact of life. If they go to 95.7 The Game, they're not only going to a competitor, but they're moving off the AM band. What if you could recycle those listeners to your own sports-themed-AM, and recycle them back to KNBR?
 
I think it would be more accurate to say they couldn’t monetize the listeners they had. KGO had a 1.7 AQH share last month.

The sports betting format likely won’t get a 0.1. But they think they can make money on a station that will have no listeners with the sports format.

You can’t make money with a station that many people listen to because they are the wrong demo or the wrong type of person. But you can on a station that statistically no one will be listening to.
And that fact will probably be what keeps AM radio stations on the air for the near term.
 
I'm scanning the AM band tonight, and I just came across KNX Los Angeles, coming in loud and mostly clear (my computer monitor is, unsurprisingly, causing a bunch of noise). It's still broadcasting on 1070, evidently, but they're emphasizing 97.1 FM (last I listened, it was always "KNX 1070", but now it's "KNX News, 97.1 FM" So, they're not getting rid of their AM yet, but they do seem to be de-emphasizing its importance.

That said, who owns KNX? Audacy?

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KNX is owned by Audacy.

As for the branding, think of it this way: EVERYBODY has "KNX 1070" burned into their brain. Now, they need people to remember that KNX is on FM and where on a very crowded L.A. FM dial it is (it'll be interesting to see what they do in New York with their upcoming FM simulcast. I've never been to NYC, but the phrase "1010 WINS" is iconic).

They may, at some point, when they believe they've established 97.1 sufficiently, return 1070 to the branding.

Four or five years ago, when I was at KFBK here in Sacramento, we branded as "News 93.1 KFBK", choosing not to mention the AM. I see that they've now updated to "KFBK News Radio 93.1 FM 1530 AM", returning the AM to the branding (part of that may be in honor of the station's 100th anniversary).

KCBS in San Francisco had its FM in second position in its branding for years...now it's "All News 106.9 and AM 740, KCBS."
 
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...and frankly, it's what has kept AM stations that aren't 50,000 watt monsters on the air for decades. Brokered programming, paid preachers, infomercials----very few of those attract measurable (by Nielsen Audio standards) audiences, but they all pay the bills.
That's wonderful for the station owner. He can spend almost nothing on programming and stay on the air. But as a listener, I don't want to hear that crap, so I'm more likely to buy a satellite radio subscription or log on to Spotify, and then not bother coming back to the AM band. Ever. That's hardly a long term business strategy.

This happened on cable tv. They kept raising their prices and diluting their programming. Fewer recent movies and special productions, more infomercials, tv preachers and reality shows. Even the so called premium channels thrived on a diet of 20 year old movies everybody has already seen and few more recent ones. They kept making the product poorer and charging more for it until cord cutting became a thing. Since I cut the cord I get endless letters, e-mails and phone calls from cable providers asking me to come back. They don't bother to ask me why I left in the first place. Those guys are clueless but still have dollar signs in their eyes. Then KGO ends its talk format by stunting with a bunch of songs about money. This is too funny. You can't make this stuff up.
 
That's wonderful for the station owner. He can spend almost nothing on programming and stay on the air. But as a listener, I don't want to hear that crap, so I'm more likely to buy a satellite radio subscription or log on to Spotify, and then not bother coming back to the AM band. Ever. That's hardly a long term business strategy.
It may not be a long term business strategy today---I think I'll see AM go dark in my lifetime. But for hundreds of owners, it has been a long term strategy. There are stations that went to that model in the 1960s that are still on the air and a lot more since and some of them (I don't know where we'd find the actual percentage) are financially successful.
 
I understand it’s not my station and not my decision. I have hundreds of other options as to what to listen to. I also have a right to the memories of what KGO used to be. If a restaurant changes their menu to something I don’t like, I have 50 other options down the road.
And 49 of them are right-wing talk.
I have been seeing a lot of anger on social media about the way the station was shut down.
Change is hard for some.
Maybe reading this is my entertainment. Who knows. Doesn’t everybody like watching a train wreck? I laughed when people described the stunting as playing songs about money and tricking people and how typical that is of the radio business today. I read the ‘badly written’ comment about taking the station into the toilet. There are actually people out there who think that Cumulus is run by the devil himself.
Mostly people who knew someone who used to work for the company.
I am not one of them, but wow, these people are angry.
Yes, you could count them one maybe two hands.
Maybe they could have signed off less abruptly. Not good for the launch of a new format.
Chances are the old format wasn't listened-to by any new listeners anyway. 99.99% of modern listeners don't care about legacy or heritage. That's a radio nerd or formerly radio employee thing.
Not good at all. If I was working public relations for Cumulus, I would be concerned, especially when the streaming companies I compete against make so much more than my company does.
Sometimes you need to break a few eggs to bake a new cake.
If this format crashes, more people will get fired. I’m just an observer with no dog in this fight. But I do like a good train wreck. Lets see what happens.
 
And 49 of them are right-wing talk.
All the more reason to leave broadcast radio behind. SiriusXM has Progressive Talk, Urban View and the Middle of the Road POTUS, plus a talk station from Canada. Then there are endless podcasts from all perspectives. I do find it strange that most markets do have three Right Wing talk stations. One dominant station that used to run Rush Limbaugh and currently runs the first string right wing talkers that gets pretty good ratings, then a second and a third string station programmed with second and third string right wing talkers that gets lousy ratings but can find enough syndicated stuff to survive. They are owned by big companies who keep pumping money into them. Are there really that many advertisers who peddle Medicare Advantage Plans and reverse mortgages?


Chances are the old format wasn't listened-to by any new listeners anyway. 99.99% of modern listeners don't care about legacy or heritage. That's a radio nerd or formerly radio employee thing.

Sometimes you need to break a few eggs to bake a new cake.
They really had nothing to lose by being nice to the old listeners. Some of them might even stick around for the new format instead of leaving angry. Not being a dick might have cost them another 15 minutes in air time. What was the point?
 
All the more reason to leave broadcast radio behind. SiriusXM has Progressive Talk, Urban View and the Middle of the Road POTUS, plus a talk station from Canada.
And, with many times the number of channels that any radio market has in its "full signal" count, they can do that. No channel has to stand on its own.
Then there are endless podcasts from all perspectives.
And many number their listeners in the dozens. Whether on radio, TV or streams, there are many wannabees and few massive audience genuine stars.
I do find it strange that most markets do have three Right Wing talk stations. One dominant station that used to run Rush Limbaugh and currently runs the first string right wing talkers that gets pretty good ratings, then a second and a third string station programmed with second and third string right wing talkers that gets lousy ratings but can find enough syndicated stuff to survive. They are owned by big companies who keep pumping money into them. Are there really that many advertisers who peddle Medicare Advantage Plans and reverse mortgages?
Yes, even the lowest tier seems to make a bit of money and are, of course, AMs that have no alternative other than turning off the transmitter.
They really had nothing to lose by being nice to the old listeners. Some of them might even stick around for the new format instead of leaving angry. Not being a dick might have cost them another 15 minutes in air time. What was the point?
The point is that the people you call "old listeners" were so few it did not make any difference and, in any case, are not a salable audience to advertisers.

As Randy Michaels told the WFLA staff in Tampa more than two decades ago, "get rid of the blue haired women".
 
I remember when KCBS was AM only, and branded themselves as "All News 74 KCBS" (dropping the 0 in 740) as recently as 2007 or so. The Station ID was also voiced by a man for many years, only recently switching to a women's voice since Entercom renamed themselves Audacy.

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I do find it strange that most markets do have three Right Wing talk stations. One dominant station that used to run Rush Limbaugh and currently runs the first string right wing talkers that gets pretty good ratings, then a second and a third string station programmed with second and third string right wing talkers that gets lousy ratings but can find enough syndicated stuff to survive. They are owned by big companies who keep pumping money into them. Are there really that many advertisers who peddle Medicare Advantage Plans and reverse mortgages?
Yep. And every post-Limbaugh attempt to do center or left talk has failed.
 
I remember when KCBS was AM only, and branded themselves as "All News 74 KCBS" (dropping the 0 in 740) as recently as 2007 or so. The Station ID was also voiced by a man for many years, only recently switching to a women's voice since Entercom renamed themselves Audacy.

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KCBS added the 106.9 FM simulcast in 2008---in fact, October 20th, 2008, so next Thursday will be 14 years.


The male ID voice was Nick Michaels, who passed away Memorial Day weekend of 2018. KCBS kept his voice on the air for several months afterward, then hired Randy Thomas, who has been the off-camera voice for the Oscars for years:


Randy's as good as they come, but I do miss Nick's voice, and I also preferred the old positioning statement within the ID---"What's happening and why."---which is exactly what a news radio station should tell you.
 
They really had nothing to lose by being nice to the old listeners. Some of them might even stick around for the new format instead of leaving angry. Not being a dick might have cost them another 15 minutes in air time. What was the point?
And I have to agree here. I doubt that it would have mattered---people are pretty button-happy, but I think not being a dick would have been a good thing. It would have cost them nothing.
 
Anyone interested in hearing more about the demise of KGO and the abrupt sign-off last week, Mark Thompson is joining Tim Conway Jr. tonight on KFI AM 640 and is already talking about KGO. He keeps saying how corporate was worried about Mark Thompson going rogue so that’s why they did the abrupt sign-off and told him not to say anything about what was happening. Very interesting!
Then why the hell did they let him do that 10-minute show in the first place? It’s nonsensical and only yielded negative PR.

Go straight to stunt mode at 10am. They had one job.
 
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