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A stupid question from an East Coast viewer

Re: Maine on Atlantic Standard Time soon? Year-Round?

> The Price Is Right would be on at noon
> (AST);
> would they move their noon newscasts to 1 PM to accommodate
> it?

They could also still have news at noon and delay Price for later in the day, like at 12:30PM (between news and Y&R), or in the late-afternoon, after the soaps are over (sone Canadian stations, like NTV in Newfoundland, used to show the daytime Price in the evenings). Or, they could also pass Price to a local Fox, UPN or WB station, though that would mean the news would be competing with Bob Barker.
 
> The simplest thing, to me, would be to make the Ohio-Indiana
>
> line the time-zone boundary (like the Georgia-Alabama line).
>
> Granted this would cause confusion in places like New Albany
>
> and Jeffersonville, which are right across the Ohio River
> from
> Louisville (and towns adjacent to Cincinnati as well), but
> Phenix City, AL, is just across the Chattahoochee River from
>
> Columbus, GA; Phenix City is on Central time, Columbus is on
>
> Eastern. Problem: New Albany and Jeffersoville are used to
> Eastern time; Phenix City is used to Central.
>
If they do this, wanna bet that Indiana's present EDT counties stay in Eastern Time?
 
Re: How about(A-boot) Canada Time zone?

> > I notice that Canada doesn't run the normal 8ET/PT 7CT/MT
> > like the US? I notice that the Mountain Time zone and the
> > atlantic Time zone run from 8-11 instead of 7-10 or
> > 9-Midnight. Also, I notice on CTV stations 8ET/9CT What?
> I
> > thought CENTRAL Time zone in canad runs Prime Time 1 hour
> > behind Eastern? Canada has weird Time zone programming.
> >
> The CBC has 5 feeds and runs on the same clock in each time
> zone with prime time at 7-10PM, except for CBC North and
> possibly Newfoundland/Labrador.

Newfoundland and Labrador add 30 minutes to everything. We'd usually hear "Tonight at 8, 8:30 in Newfoundland on CBC" during promos.

> CTV's prime time is 8-11pm everywhere, but not in
> Saskatchewan (which doesn't use DST) from April-October.
> Those stations remain on the Central pattern year-round and
> run prime time at 7-10 local time. However, some individual
> programs air at different times in some markets.
>
> Global uses 8-11 Atlantic/Eastern/Pacific and 7-10
> Central/Mountain, following the US standard.

Global Alberta does not use 7-10pm. We use the 8-11pm primetime schedule but usually some programs air at different times, ie, Survivor airs at 8pm ET/PT, we see it at 9pm MT(in conjuction with KREM-TV/2 Spokane who Shaw Cable pipes in as the CBS station). Global Saskatchewan year-round uses a 7-10pm schedule similar to Global Winnipeg. Note: all stations Global/CH stations in the prarie provinces have their master controls in Calgary.

> Not sure about A-Channel/CityTV or the French networks
> (although I'd assume that SRC has 5 feeds just like the
> CBC).
>
CHUM is more localized. They all use a 8-11pm primetime schedule but programs are shifted around per time zone.<P ID="signature">______________

Canada TV and College Radio</P>
 
> > Next spring will indeed be daylight-saving time
> > in all of Indiana, however what time zone some
> > counties will be in is another story.
>
> Who/m made that decision?

The Indiana state legislature.

This article on the controversy should shed some light on what part of the state will be in what time zone come next April.

<a target="_blank" href=http://www.stateline.org/live/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=136&languageId=1&contentId=54951>http://www.stateline.org/live/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=136&languageId=1&contentId=54951</a><P ID="signature">______________


</P>
 
> > ...and those five "illegal" (for 2+ more weeks)
> > counties near Cincinnati and Louisville.
>
> What exactly is "illegal" about it?

The five counties are in the Eastern time zone
but have "illegally" observed EDT in the summer
for a number of years now, in defiance of the
state law--now with its own "sunset" provision
(pun intended)--exempting the Eastern zone of
Indiana from daylight-saving time.
 
> During the hurricane coverage, the Today Show
> re-did parts of their first half hour for the
> West Coast. Katie would start out saying,
> "It's 7am PACIFIC TIME!".

> And, oddly, I was watching from Phoenix on
> MOUNTAIN STANDARD TIME.

At least Mc12 (KPNX to you out-of-market folks)
had the sense to dial up the left coast feed
rather than playing back something three hours
old. And I will also give them credit for
airing a live 5:30pm PDT Nightly News feed
when it is offered. I suppose though they do get
an alert from NBC when there is an update planned
for the Pacific zone feed.
 
> If they do this, wanna bet that Indiana's
> present EDT counties stay in Eastern Time?

That's a big 10-4.

The Indiana bill which cancelled the exemption
from DST for the Eastern zone also stipulated
that those counties currently in the Central
zone would remain there, and the five specific
"illegal" counties near CVG and SDF would
remain in the Eastern zone.

All other counties (the rest of the Eastern zone)
had the option of petitioning the USDOT to change
to Central time if they so desired. Some have.

Hearings to be held. Results on your late news
at 11/10 Central. Bulletins at once. ;-)
 
> From 1967, and it was Denver because I posted it.
> Some shows aired live-to-Eastern slots, some shows
> that ran early in the evening in the East (7:30
> Eastern/5:30 Mountain) ran later in the evening or
> several days later in the Mountain time zone.

Similar patterns for CBS/NBC affils in PHX/TUS:
one example being live net 6:30-9 MT with the 7:30 ET
show airing 9-10 MT--either same-night on tape, one
week late on tape, or 1-2 weeks late on 16mm film.


> Only ABC seemed to have a consistent pattern:
> it followed Central time (6:30-10) Monday-Friday,
> but did live-to-the-East on weekends...

b, did you ever discover how KBTV Denver did this?
Were they deluged with VR1000s/1100s so they could
turn a one-hour tape delay, or did they go the
back-door route like KTVK Phoenix--which also fed
KGUN-TV Tucson--and had ABC ship them 16mm reduction
prints of everything (even the Sunday Night Movie!)
for same-night airing?

Or...closed circuit for Jeeper One...do you know any
retired Denver TV master control or VTR operators
who worked prime in the 60s and who could enlighten
us here with some stories on how they did net delays?
 
Re: Maine on Atlantic Standard Time soon? Year-Round?

> > The Price Is Right would be on at noon
> > (AST);
> > would they move their noon newscasts to 1 PM to
> accommodate
> > it?
>
> They could also still have news at noon and delay Price for
> later in the day, like at 12:30PM (between news and Y&R), or
> in the late-afternoon, after the soaps are over (sone
> Canadian stations, like NTV in Newfoundland, used to show
> the daytime Price in the evenings). Or, they could also pass
> Price to a local Fox, UPN or WB station, though that would
> mean the news would be competing with Bob Barker.
>
I think the CBS affiliate in Hamilton, Bermuda, runs Price
at 5 PM (AST), after Guiding Light; Y&R follows at 6 (I may
have these backwards but I know they're on before the news).
So that is a possibility; with Price's ratings, I don't see
WABI, WAGM, or WGME dropping it. Since I suspect the Maine
stations would keep their 6 PM local news (network news would
be on at 7:30), Price would probably go 12:30-1:30.
 
My understanding is that all state offices would have their clocks on standard time (what about schools like Ivy Tech on the Indiana side of Louisville?), but everybody sets their clocks along with Louisville. The gov. can't tell private citizens how to set their clocks, I guess.
 
Eastern/Pacific...

> The same, "8/7 central". No mention of mountain and pacific.
>

I've noticed on some cable channels they give the times and say eastern and pacific. The Mountain time zone can get both feeds then, depending on what your local cable company chooses.
 
Re: Eastern/Pacific...

> > The same, "8/7 central". No mention of mountain and
> pacific.
> >
>
> I've noticed on some cable channels they give the times and
> say eastern and pacific. The Mountain time zone can get both
> feeds then, depending on what your local cable company
> chooses.
>
That's true, but the big broadcast networks in the Mountain time zone grab the eastern feed - as Pacific would be too late. That's pretty much universal.
 
> > Boy, were there a lot of p o'd seniors in Utah
> (and Idaho, and Wyoming, and Nevada) that night!!

Did you hear from Marge Simpson's sisters? They're big MacGyver fans.

ixnay
 
> Sunset at 4pm in December..no thanks!

Assuming (and I know that's dangerous ;-)
you are referring to Indianapolis as was
in my post...in the interest of total
accuracy, or at the very least picking
even more nits...

The earliest December sunset on CST
would be 4:20pm.

source--
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneYear.html
 
> > Why can't the time zone problem in Indiana
> > be solved by moving the time zone line to be
> > the same as the state line?
>
> Straying even more off-topic, but since you asked...
>
> All of Indiana should be in the Central time zone.
> All--OK, 99 percent--of Michigan should be in the
> Central zone. Half of Ohio should be on Central.
> (Think 82'30" west longitude.)
>
> Over the years time zone boundaries have been moved
> westward in many cases. Assuming Marion County
> stays in the Eastern zone (and I don't believe they
> have petitioned the USDOT to move to CT), next spring
> Indy will--in effect--be on double daylight time.
>
>>>>>>There is "no such thing as double daylight time". Indianapolis has been on EST since the 1960's. It will just start observing DST. "Double Daylight Time" is a word coined by the ignorant people of our state that wish it was Central and dark at 4:30PM in the winter. School districts simply need to start their day latter.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by biggrich on 10/15/05 05:30 AM.</FONT></P>
 
> My understanding is that all state offices would have their
> clocks on standard time (what about schools like Ivy Tech on
> the Indiana side of Louisville?), but everybody sets their
> clocks along with Louisville. The gov. can't tell private
> citizens how to set their clocks, I guess.
>

I've had the thought before that if I lived in one time zone and worked in another that I would base my daily routine on the time where I worked, except possibly on weekends. That definitely has to be confusing though.
 
I remember going to a movie in the 60s, when I was 8 or so. There was an ad before the movie with a cartoon image of a mom putting her kid to bed, the kid saying "but Mom, its still light outside". Mr. Voice comes on saying "Prevent Double Daylight Time"! Apparently this was when that part of Indiana was still on Central Time. I don't understand folks in Hoosierland all wanting 5am sunrises in June and 4:30 darkness..OK, people in Lafayette think they're all Chicagoans because they went to a Cubs game once.
 
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