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ABC Pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live

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yeoldeschool said:
I don't believe this has ever been done before in the television industry, but there's a first time for everything, especially when necessity becomes the mother of invention:

Can a show exist simultaneously in network runs and in front-end syndication? (Front-end syndication is the kind Star Trek: The Next Generation ran all its new episodes in.)

My thinking is that in any market whose ABC affiliate blackballed the show, all the other stations -- regardless of their affiliation or independence status -- would get to bid on the right to carry new episodes through a standard front-end syndication contract. The barter syndication model would be employed, in particular, so that all national ads booked on ABC could and would also appear in the syndicated versions' satellite feeds as built-ins. The same number of minutes alloted to ABC affiliates for local ads during its network feeds of Kimmel would, in turn, be present in each syndication feed as local ad insertion blacks.

Voila? Or nay?
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I don't know about that model, but in the 60s and 70s, it was not unheard of for a network that had a station that refused to clear a show to offer it to another local station and make a big deal of it. It often was an independent (to avoid schedule conficts and contract tampering concerns with competing networks), and the network with help with in-market promotion of the show.

But---those were usually one or two stations at a time. Nothing of this scale.
 
michael hagerty said:
I have freelance auto review assignments on deadline today and frankly, I'm tired of the bad-faith arguments and the rhetorical shell games. It's up to the rest of you.

Just as a warning before you engage with any apologists, THIS was on FOX and Friends this morning, just so you have an idea of their information ecosystem:

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This was Jesse Watters last night:



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Is she actually that dumb?
 
This Politico story has the usual "I'm concerned" statements from various named and anonymous GOP pols, which is the same tired old shtick. What is rather significant is the kicker buried near the end; both Dem and GOP leaders on the House Oversight Committee are interested in securing Carr's testimony:

The House and Senate have to approve any rule changes for the FCC by design and that includes the ownership cap. And the GOP majority in the House isn't that much; it's enough when everyone is in full lockstep. Difficult to do when a story like this is sucking up all the oxygen.
 
AbrahamJSimpson said:
And when Donnie threatens, they magically fall into lockstep. Reasons why they’re gerrymandering like drunken sailors to ensure they have a stranglehold on the House.
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In usual circumstances. THIS is fully unusual. We're not talking about a typical news cycle that is going to be forgotten in a week.
 
Okay---this and then I'm out until at least Sunday (explained above).

The front page of the Wall Street Journal. I'd have flipped the French budget protests and "Trump Pushes to Silence Opponents" in the layout, but at least it's page one and they got the wording right:

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Given the steady drumbeat of bat—t crazy that comes at us daily? I’m not so sure. It’s designed chaos. The outrage over Colbert lasted for a bit then more or less went to the back burner. It flared up obviously with the Kimmel thing, but soon enough we’ll be on to the next piece of the Constitution he stomps on.

The GOP caucus remains almost entirely united in refusing to force the release of the Epstein files. If they won’t break ranks beyond two agitators over that, this isn’t going to move them.
 
davideduardo said:
michael hagerty said:
At worst, a comedian mischaracterized the categorization of a self-confessed murder suspect on a comedy talk show.
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That is your opinion. As I see it, by the time he made that mischaracterization, it was clear that the individual had not been part of his (also exaggerated) "MAGA household" for years and had been radicalized (whatever that means today), So the need to make a remark that would be biting or humorous to his followers, he misstated the real fact.

To the other posters: this is an example of two posters who disagree defending their positions.
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You know, I think the real problem isn't whether comedians should be telling the public the news, but that the public has become so anti-intellectual that it gets the news almost only from comedians ... which has created the heretofore unheard-of and completely unreasonable expectation that comedians tell us the news accurately.

Case in point:

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The only viable excuse for miss-stating that news item would have to do with when the show is "filmed".
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Which explains why proper purveyors of facts have always worked live ... so they wouldn't end up like Harris K. Telemacher, or perhaps, Jimmy Kimmel.
 
AbrahamJSimpson said:
Given the steady drumbeat of bat—t crazy that comes at us daily? I’m not so sure. It’s designed chaos. The outrage over Colbert lasted for a bit then more or less went to the back burner. It flared up obviously with the Kimmel thing, but soon enough we’ll be on to the next piece of the Constitution he stomps on.
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Close friend on mine equated this story to when Tom Hanks and Rudy Gobert tested positive for COVID-19. She wouldn't be wrong at all; this has escaped the usual political sphere contagion.
AbrahamJSimpson said:
The GOP caucus remains almost entirely united in refusing to force the release of the Epstein files. If they won’t break ranks beyond two agitators over that, this isn’t going to move them.
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Unpopular opinion but the Epstein Files aren't attention grabbing as an entertainer getting effectively fired for doing nothing wrong. This story is fast eclipsing Kirk because Kirk wasn't exactly a household name (he was known but in specific arenas and for those who actively were interested in/followed him) but Kimmel has been in the public eye for 30 years.
 
yeoldeschool said:
You know, I think the real problem isn't whether comedians should be telling the public the news, but that the public has become so anti-intellectual that it gets the news almost only from comedians ... which has created the heretofore unheard-of and completely unreasonable expectation that comedians tell us the news accurately.
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I often say the exact same thing about conservative news/talk radio. People who listen are conflating the opinions of the hosts (and Chalie Kirk was one of them) with actual news. These talk show hosts are not journalists, they're entertainers. Just like Kimmel. But their listeners are taking what they say as factually correct, and it's not. They don't present both sides. They are doing exactly what Kimmel and Colbert do, which is take the news and turn it around into entertainment. Should it be illegal? Apparently the FCC thinks so. If he feels that way, he should also threaten news talk radio for the same reason.
 
Wow! No one here gets it! Political murders are not a joke. And, half of you or more are dumb enough to believe what Jimmy said is true. Instead of comedians we now have political preachers on late night TV. As Jay Leno recently said, "Why alienate half the audience?"
 
What he said was not incorrect. MAGA was absolutely trying to score political points.

Leno’s time has passed. The audience has changed. Milquetoast jokes that are careful to not “offend” the ever-more-offendable aren’t going to get far. It worked for a long time. That time is gone.

Which flows into the next logical question: does anyone seriously believe the audience most prone to be “in mourning” over this podcaster was watching Jimmy Kimmel? They’re diametrically opposed. Any “offense” came not from seeing his show but from being told how awful it was, perhaps in some cases by the same news source that suggested homeless people be…well, we know what was said.

It’s performative outrage over something that never impacted them. They already didn’t watch. I believe that same group was generally proud to call others snowflakes, to advise people to [have intimate relations with] their feelings, and pretend to advocate for free speech and limited government.
 
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