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ABC Pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live

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Which it did not do.

At worst, a comedian mischaracterized the categorization of a self-confessed murder suspect on a comedy talk show.
That is your opinion. As I see it, by the time he made that mischaracterization, it was clear that the individual had not been part of his (also exaggerated) "MAGA household" for years and had been radicalized (whatever that means today), So the need to make a remark that would be biting or humorous to his followers, he misstated the real fact.

To the other posters: this is an example of two posters who disagree defending their positions.
 
That is your opinion. As I see it, by the time he made that mischaracterization, it was clear that the individual had not been part of his (also exaggerated) "MAGA household" for years and had been radicalized (whatever that means today), So the need to make a remark that would be biting or humorous to his followers, he misstated the real fact.

And even if I took that at face value, it was not this:

having carried a false news item.

It was not a news item. Jimmy Kimmel is not David Muir. His program is not a production of ABC News. It is what I said it was, which you characterized as my opinion:

A comedian mischaracterizing the categorization of a self-confessed murder suspect on a comedy talk show.
 
It was not a news item. Jimmy Kimmel is not David Muir. His program is not a production of ABC News. It is what I said it was, which you characterized as my opinion:
However, if Charlamagne on The Breakfast Club cites a news subject for comment, it is a news item. It is not conjecture, it is not fantasy. It is a news item, even if brought up to use as a springboard or launching pad for a joke or commentary.

If you take Gutfeld! on Fox News, we'd likely all say it is a comedy show. Heck, even Sean Hannity presents it by saying "Stay with Fox News and Greg gutfeld will put a smile on your face". In every aspect, this is presented as a comedy show. But on the show, actual news items are presented either in a verbal summary or in a sound/video clip and then the panel comments and makes remarks about the news item. But still, the news item is news.
A comedian mischaracterizing the categorization of a self-confessed murder suspect on a comedy talk show.
But the comedian, by that time had the news data that showed that the confessed murderer was not has he portrayed him.

The only viable excuse for miss-stating that news item would have to do with when the show is "filmed". We know it is not live, but I don't know when certain news "facts" came out vs. when the show was recorded. This is an interesting point, particularly if what we knew about the at-the-time suspect was less clear than, perhaps, a few hours later when the show ran.

In the case of a time discrepancy, then why did ABC no edit that bit in the monologue to reflect later discoveries?
 
However, if Charlamagne on The Breakfast Club cites a news subject for comment, it is a news item. It is not conjecture, it is not fantasy. It is a news item, even if brought up to use as a springboard or launching pad for a joke or commentary.

If you take Gutfeld! on Fox News, we'd likely all say it is a comedy show. Heck, even Sean Hannity presents it by saying "Stay with Fox News and Greg gutfeld will put a smile on your face". In every aspect, this is presented as a comedy show. But on the show, actual news items are presented either in a verbal summary or in a sound/video clip and then the panel comments and makes remarks about the news item. But still, the news item is news.

But the comedian, by that time had the news data that showed that the confessed murderer was not has he portrayed him.

The only viable excuse for miss-stating that news item would have to do with when the show is "filmed". We know it is not live, but I don't know when certain news "facts" came out vs. when the show was recorded. This is an interesting point, particularly if what we knew about the at-the-time suspect was less clear than, perhaps, a few hours later when the show ran.

In the case of a time discrepancy, then why did ABC no edit that bit in the monologue to reflect later discoveries?
You can talk about current events and not be a news show. We would all be news journalists if that was the case.
 
However, if Charlamagne on The Breakfast Club cites a news subject for comment, it is a news item.

I don't think so. I think it's a guy with a microphone and an opinion. Just like Imus back in the day:



It is not conjecture, it is not fantasy. It is a news item, even if brought up to use as a springboard or launching pad for a joke or commentary.

If you take Gutfeld! on Fox News, we'd likely all say it is a comedy show.

Not all of us, no.


Heck, even Sean Hannity presents it by saying "Stay with Fox News and Greg gutfeld will put a smile on your face".

Meaning that Sean knows the FOX audience's appetite for crude, vile takes. This is from The Five, not Gutfeld!, a clip of which I posted in an earlier thread of him being not quite this disgusting (that one was about Hunter Biden wanting to bang Dr. Jill Biden), but you'll get the idea:


But the comedian, by that time had the news data that showed that the confessed murderer was not has he portrayed him.

The only viable excuse for miss-stating that news item would have to do with when the show is "filmed". We know it is not live, but I don't know when certain news "facts" came out vs. when the show was recorded. This is an interesting point, particularly if what we knew about the at-the-time suspect was less clear than, perhaps, a few hours later when the show ran.

In the case of a time discrepancy, then why did ABC no edit that bit in the monologue to reflect later discoveries?

You're only asking that question, now, huh?

I'll answer it for you: Some outlets had the text message, and what the heck, it seems like a lot of stuff doesn't get seen in these threads, so:

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I don't know what Jimmy Kimmel Live's standards are for credible outlets. I do know that The New York Times did not print that until the day after Kimmel's monologue.

And as I said yesterday (speaking of having to repeat oneself to posters), this text shows a confession and a same-sex relationship with a person that, it has been reported, is trans. That is not the same as being "indoctrinated by radical leftists".

And, what the hell, one more time, here's what Kimmel said:

We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.

Which is both his opinion and demonstrably true (and if you want me to drag out all the clips showing them frothing at the mouth and using words like war, you know I will).

And neither of those things is actionable.
 
I don't grasp what if any consequences ABC would face if it continued to air Kimmel as-is outside of temporary revenue.
Did you miss what the FCC Chairman said on Benny Johnson’s podcast, a few hours before ABC suspended Kimmel’s show?
 
I don't grasp what if any consequences ABC would face if it continued to air Kimmel as-is outside of temporary revenue.

Did you miss everything the FCC Chairman said in the last 24 hours?


Did you miss what Trump said today?

 
Did you miss everything the FCC Chairman said in the last 24 hours?


Did you miss what Trump said today?

Missed the Carr quote about public interest, and could be why they just didn't want to deal with an FCC investigation. Trump says that kind of thing on at least the weekly all the way back to his first term though...its sad to tune out the president as just spewing nonsense, but here we are.
 
Trump says that kind of thing on at least the weekly all the way back to his first term though...its sad to tune out the president as just spewing nonsense, but here we are.

I try every day not to take the Lord's name in vain.

Some days I settle for not giving him a middle initial.

Other days, I aim for "H." instead of "F."

Oh, well...there's always tomorrow.


Trump now has an FCC chairman who is willing to do what Trump wants instead of saying "Sir, you can't do that."
 
I try every day not to take the Lord's name in vain.

Some days I settle for not giving him a middle initial.

Other days, I aim for "H." instead of "F."

Oh, well...there's always tomorrow.


Trump now has an FCC chairman who is willing to do what Trump wants instead of saying "Sir, you can't do that."
You're right....he surrounds himself with yes men.
 
At worst, a comedian mischaracterized the categorization of a self-confessed murder suspect on a comedy talk show.

That is your opinion. As I see it, by the time he made that mischaracterization, it was clear that the individual had not been part of his (also exaggerated) "MAGA household" for years and had been radicalized (whatever that means today), So the need to make a remark that would be biting or humorous to his followers, he misstated the real fact.

Neither statement is accurate. The suspect has not had his day in court yet. In spite of all the political spin from both sides, no motive has been proven so there is no "real fact" to base any of these "mischaracterizations" on yet.

There are two "real facts":
1. Charlie Kirk is dead, and
2. The sole suspect is in custody awaiting trial.

In my opinion, Trump, with the help of his FCC Chairman sycophant, would have picked any reason to go after Jimmy Kimmel regardless. They just picked this one. Trump already listed all the comedians he doesn't like who are "next," because they make fun of him and criticize him, just like Kimmel. He'll come up with reasons to threaten the licenses of their platform owners if their shows aren't canceled too. Standard autocratic playbook.
 
I don't grasp what if any consequences ABC would face if it continued to air Kimmel as-is outside of temporary revenue.
The immediate consequence is the loss of many important affiliates. Then there is the prior and ongoing issues that the show was not profitable. And now, many advertisers will stay away were the show to return.

Whether justified or not, Kimmel was losing ABC money. Now, there are lost affiliates and even more advertiser defections. The bigger picture is whether ABC wants to defend that hill when its profits and share price are off historical heights.

So the big question is whether ABC cancelled Kimmel just for his remarks, or whether they cancelled him because of the defection of a significant group of affiliates and the potential further loss of revenue for that money losing show.
 
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