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Alt 92.3 to Become WINS Simulcast

DavidEduardo said:
There are style differences, but the real difference is in coverage. WINS is not good at the western suburbs in Jersey, but puts a huge directional signal over Manhattan. WCBS covers the whole market in all directions and is best for the suburbs.
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Sounds about like the station I used to work for years ago. Pick it up almost everywhere, but when it switched to its nighttime signal, there was only about a 10 mile stretch you could drive through [east-west] and pick it up. For the rest of the area, it was just a rumor that it even existed. [Except for the time when for some reason, the daytime signal never switched to the nighttime for about a week. But that's a story for another day.]
 
CTListener said:
There are exceptions to everything, of course, but historically there's been far, far less black affinity for rock (or country or classical) music than there's been white affinity for genres generally considered "black." The story of the white kid in suburbia hiding the transistor radio under the pillow to hear a distant R&B station at night in the '60s is a familiar one. Nobody talks about the black kid in the inner city doing the same thing to listen to distant pop or MOR or country station, not because there weren't any but because it was highly unusual back then. Black interest in those genres continues to be minimal to this day. White interest in "black music" continues to grow.
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So how come WQXR with a Manhattan area only signal beats Alt 92.3 or ESPN New York 98.7 or even any live streaming of the radio stations?
 
MVB13 said:
News failed a decade ago on FM.
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For New York City at least but WTOP-FM the highest revenue station in the USA and its an all news station in Washington DC by Hubbard. WTOP-FM has been in a battle with NPR News talk affiliate WAMU-FM Washington for some time.

Also for San Francisco KCBS Radio is on the top 5 spots in the Bay Area against NPR News/Talk Station KQED-FM over ratings in the ppm.
 
DarrenVision said:
until last thursday sir they move to a WOR transmitter in Lyndhurst, NJ nearly doubled to 40,000 watts WXBK Completes Move Closer To New York - RadioInsight
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They did not increase coverage area; they raised power because they lowered antenna height.

And they only moved a couple of miles closer to Manhattan. Initial reports say that coverage of Long Island did not improve; even in Queens it is no better.

It's still not a full market signal.
 
DarrenVision said:
So how come WQXR with a Manhattan area only signal beats Alt 92.3 or ESPN New York 98.7 or even any live streaming of the radio stations?
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Both of those commercial stations beat WQXR in 25-54, the sales demos. WQXR is decidedly a 55 and over station.
 
DarrenVision said:
IF WNYC has enough funds they might buy 99.5 or 95.5 to expand it's signal
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EMF would never sell their NYC station. And neither will the folks at Pacifica.
 
DavidEduardo said:
They did not increase coverage area; they raised power because they lowered antenna height.

And they only moved a couple of miles closer to Manhattan. Initial reports say that coverage of Long Island did not improve; even in Queens it is no better.

It's still not a full market signal.
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I checked Radio Locator but is kinda the same, no Stanford, CT tho but not that closer to eastern parts of Long Island. I guess Empire State Building is occupied but why not One World Trade Center?
 
DarrenVision said:
I checked Radio Locator but is kinda the same, no Stanford, CT tho but not that closer to eastern parts of Long Island. I guess Empire State Building is occupied but why not One World Trade Center?
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They can not move farther east due to co-channel issues.

On RadioLocator use only the innermost circle to determine usable coverage. And then factor in horizon blockage due to the buildings on Manhattan. Remember, those maps state "for amusement purposes only".
 
TheBigA said:
This has been discussed here many times. Interference with other signals in Long Island and Mass.
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Yes. It is mostly the co-channel WMAS in Springfield.
 
DavidEduardo said:
Of course, as WINS listeners move to FM, that will further reduce the attraction of the AM band. Look for additional losses by WCBS (AM) and the band as a whole.
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That alone is why I have a hard time believing that WCBS will remain as-is. This looks like a repeat of KNX de facto merging into KFWB, with the “lesser station” (in this case, WCBS) getting out of the format altogether or assumes the WINS 92.3 simulcast as 1010 gets tossed aside.

Adding talk and sports is nice in theory but will make WCBS’s ratings crumble. NYC is just not a market for talk radio.
 
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