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1560 WQEW's IBOC has been off for about a week now, and I just noticed today that 1210 WPHT's IBOC is off as well.

And the funny thing is, now that I finally have an HD Radio with the AM band (instead of just the little FM-only Insignia walkman) and I would like to do some AM HD reception tests, hardly anybody is transmitting it anymore!
 
Savage said:
I think I got Post #1000! Thanks, Carmine5 - and Happy Hiss-Free 2013 to everyone!! ;D

Congratulations! :D Someday in the hopefully near future when there is no need for this thread anymore Savage can put in the last post as well.
 
I think it would be fitting! As we close out 2012, the number of A.M. IBOC stations is that number without the 0: 212. Down 2, baby! Can we make 210 by year's end? Let's hope so!
 
Savage said:
I think I got Post #1000! Thanks, Carmine5 - and Happy Hiss-Free 2013 to everyone!! ;D

You are more than welcome, Mr. Savage. But really, you're the man.

This thread is but one small part of a major campaign you started years ago to keep AM free of digital noise. From your letters and articles to Radio World to your filings with the FCC against WBZ, you've done the industry a great service in highlighting the intractable problems associated with IBOC on AM. You know you've arrived when Guy Wire devotes an entire column to you. And in spite of his snide insinuations about WYSL and nauseating HD-R cheerleading, even he had to tacitly admit that, "HD-R just doesn't add enough compelling value to make AMs more successful or appealing." Apparently, a lot of station owners agree.

Despite what I said earlier, there are a few AMs in my area that are doing well. One I know of, KKJL, has a sales staff and a full complement of DJs. They also have logged quite a number of listeners outside their protected contour--listeners that would disappear if they or the other nearby stations were broadcasting HD. No doubt these people would be upset if their favorite station went away and the station itself would be less successful if they couldn't count these listeners in their sales literature (which they do).

So Bob, complements to you on a successful campaign so far. Maybe someday we'll have a digital system for AM that makes sense or, like shoreline residents forced to move inland as the oceans rise, AM stations will have to migrate to another band to avoid the increasing noise from consumer products. I'm not against AM stations going to VHF channel 6 if the FCC doesn't get the full 120 MHz of spectrum from us TV broadcasters (and evidence so far indicates that they'll be lucky to get 30 MHz).

"IBOC is not for me" is becoming the slogan for more and more station owners and you've played a role in that.

http://www.radioworld.com/article/a-critic-lashes-out-at-hd-radio-again/1413
 
N1VWQ, we may already be at or below 210, if you're looking at the same list I'm looking at. That list still shows 1580 KMIK in Tempe, AZ, as running IBOC, but it's been off for almost a month now (still with 5 kHz audio though), and I'm seeing reports that 1560 WQEW in New York, NY, has shut theirs off and possibly restored 10 kHz analog audio.

Carmine5, interesting you should mention KKJL. I often listen to it at night here near El Cajon (east of San Diego, CA). Of course it gets the co-channel interference expected from being on 1400, but it's pretty much the only station (other than co-channel KTUC in Tuscon, AZ) that plays that music I often enjoy. I've even sometimes heard it come in quite well - a few times it was just about as good as my recent reception of co-channel KTUC in Tuscon or KCYK Yuma, AZ. I do have a 5 kW omni-directional 1390 XEKT about 25 miles or so southeast of me, but it's a relative non-pest especially on a selective radio.
 
pianoplayer88key said:
I'm seeing reports that 1560 WQEW in New York, NY, has shut theirs off and possibly restored 10 kHz analog audio.
As of today the IBOC is still off at WQEW, but they are only transmitting 5 kHz analog mono audio.
 
pianoplayer88key said:
...(other than co-channel KTUC in Tuscon, AZ)...

...my recent reception of co-channel KTUC in Tuscon ...

T-U-C-S-O-N (pronounced TWO-sahn or two-SAHN) ;D
 
pianoplayer88key said:
N1VWQ, we may already be at or below 210, if you're looking at the same list I'm looking at.

Carmine5, interesting you should mention KKJL. I often listen to it at night here near El Cajon (east of San Diego, CA). Of course it gets the co-channel interference expected from being on 1400, but it's pretty much the only station (other than co-channel KTUC in Tuscon, AZ) that plays that music I often enjoy. I've even sometimes heard it come in quite well - a few times it was just about as good as my recent reception of co-channel KTUC in Tuscon or KCYK Yuma, AZ. I do have a 5 kW omni-directional 1390 XEKT about 25 miles or so southeast of me, but it's a relative non-pest especially on a selective radio.

Wow! Such is the power of skywave propagation. And KKJL is just a 1 kW station. If you haven't already, send them an email. I'm sure the owner, Guy Paul Hackman, would love to hear that (I'm assuming the days of stations sending cards to DX'ers is a thing of the past).
 
pianoplayer88key said:
N1VWQ, we may already be at or below 210, if you're looking at the same list I'm looking at. That list still shows 1580 KMIK in Tempe, AZ, as running IBOC, but it's been off for almost a month now (still with 5 kHz audio though), and I'm seeing reports that 1560 WQEW in New York, NY, has shut theirs off and possibly restored 10 kHz analog audio.
Barry McLarnon's site is showing 209 today! Dare we dream: <200 to start 2013?! Here's to the new year!!!
 
I didn't hear any IBOC on WHJJ/920 as of Monday. I'll check it again today but maybe its IBOC exciter finally committed seppuku!
 
satech said:
It must be musical chairs time... 1210 WPHT turned their IBOC back on, while 1010 WINS turned their IBOC off!

Must be, WTAG 580 Worc Ma was off and on for a few weeks and is now on 24 hrs and it always shut off at sunset since it's been on.
 
If we could get all the CBS stations to turn it off, that would do more to clean up the AM band than everything the FCC tried to do when it established the expanded band!
 
KB1OKL said:
satech said:
It must be musical chairs time... 1210 WPHT turned their IBOC back on, while 1010 WINS turned their IBOC off!

Must be, WTAG 580 Worc Ma was off and on for a few weeks and is now on 24 hrs and it always shut off at sunset since it's been on.

WTAG's hash maker was still on 24 hrs so last night I sent an email to their market manager last night (CC) that their station was emitting a racket from at least 565 kHz to 595 kHz. I put them on tonight and nice and clear again, not sure if it was a coincidence or not, they have had a lot of trouble over the years with their IBOC. I know one time their computer stopped shutting it off during the pattern change, maybe happened again? Either way I'm thankful that racket is now off at night, it's kind of jarring when you're DXing and all of a sudden whoosh!
 
Down to 206. I'm noticing there are a few frequencies on which all AM HD stations have ceased operating HD. These include 630 (3), 680 (1), 690 (1), 800 (1), 860 (4), 870 (1), 1000 (2), 1020 (2), 1170 (3), 1370 (1), 1500 (1), 1510 (1), 1540 (1), 1550 (1), 1560 (1) & 1670 (1). Also, I'm keeping an ear on 920/WHJJ on which HD was off last week.
 
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