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HCochet said:
Marvin the Martian was another marginal Warner Brothers cartoon character created by the overrated animator/producer Chuck Jones. Among the other awful characters he created were (from Wikipedia): Claude Cat, Marc Antony and Pussyfoot, Charlie Dog, Michigan J. Frog, and his three most popular creations, Marvin the Martian, Pepe LePew, the Road Runner, and Wile E. Coyote.
But meanwhile, back to popular culture, there are some interesting gaps in pop culture references. On "Project Runway" last night, one of the contestants knew nothing about Marlo Thomas and "That Girl", but knew of Joan Crawford.
Likewise radio. Many people are familiar with Howard Stern but don't know a thing about Don Imus, though Imus has been on the air longer and had a TV version of his radio show for many years.
People now what they use. People under 40 don't know Warner Brothers cartoons because, for the most part, they stopped getting made around the time they were born. My nephew was shocked that there actually is a guy named Madden and that he once coached football teams. His frame of reference is a video game.
Which brings us back to AM. What frame of refernce does someone under 30 have for AM radio? They weren't raised carrying a transitor, listening to The Big Daddy on KYA. So it doesn't exist. They know what they know. They're not stupid because they don't share the same frame of reference. But it doesn't bode well for a technology that depends on popular usage for its existance. If no one uses it, it will go away. Just like lots of other products and devices.
Which brings us back to AM. What frame of refernce does someone under 30 have for AM radio? They weren't raised carrying a transitor, listening to The Big Daddy on KYA. So it doesn't exist. They know what they know. They're not stupid because they don't share the same frame of reference. But it doesn't bode well for a technology that depends on popular usage for its existance. If no one uses it, it will go away. Just like lots of other products and devices.
I still listen to AM
I even listen to RD for Top 40 music on AM
I don't know if it's my Walkman or the station..It doesn't sound right
Also AM1310 is running IBOC
I even listen to RD for Top 40 music on AM
I don't know if it's my Walkman or the station..It doesn't sound right
Also AM1310 is running IBOC
If you live in the strip then yes
How can anyone listen to AM on the Strip or anywhere there's alot of lights in Vegas, Go away from the strip and you be fine
AM radio still can be useful.
The FCC helped to ruin AM radio by allowing so many devices that interfere with the AM band and now in some cases with the FM band.
There is talk about moving all AM's to a new FM band located in what is now Channel 5 & 6 TV and allowing the stations that move to simulcast on AM & the new FM band for 5 years or so ,if they want to.
Then any station that wants to continue to operate on AM can do so at maybe powers higher then 50kw.
Plus there will be less clutter on the revamped AM band.
Many countries in Europe have done away with AM or MW as it is known there ,but in many of these places private broadcasters are planning to put new stations back on AM.
A skip signal at night within say 400-700 miles of a clear channel station is still a listenable thing ,if you don't mind occasional fading.
Yes you can listen on the Internet . . . if that is what you want . . . go ahead.
But you can't beat the simplicity of an inexpensive radio on batteries picking up a station 400 miles or so away at night . . . it works.
And if the crap ever hits the fan in a big way and Internet circuits and cell phone circuits are down . . . it could be the only source for info from the outside world.
Al
The FCC helped to ruin AM radio by allowing so many devices that interfere with the AM band and now in some cases with the FM band.
There is talk about moving all AM's to a new FM band located in what is now Channel 5 & 6 TV and allowing the stations that move to simulcast on AM & the new FM band for 5 years or so ,if they want to.
Then any station that wants to continue to operate on AM can do so at maybe powers higher then 50kw.
Plus there will be less clutter on the revamped AM band.
Many countries in Europe have done away with AM or MW as it is known there ,but in many of these places private broadcasters are planning to put new stations back on AM.
A skip signal at night within say 400-700 miles of a clear channel station is still a listenable thing ,if you don't mind occasional fading.
Yes you can listen on the Internet . . . if that is what you want . . . go ahead.
But you can't beat the simplicity of an inexpensive radio on batteries picking up a station 400 miles or so away at night . . . it works.
And if the crap ever hits the fan in a big way and Internet circuits and cell phone circuits are down . . . it could be the only source for info from the outside world.
Al
alok said:
The talk is only among some radio people. No one at the FCC or Congress has been talking about it, so it won't happen.
The biggest problem with the idea is it instantly makes millions of radios obsolete, requiring the entire country to buy new radios to receive these channels. After the HDTV disaster, it's clear the government has no stomache for putting the country through another changeover. The FCC has said repeatedly that it won't mandate digital radio.
alok said:
You hear wrong. Current owners would love to have the same opportunity to buy digital spectrum that the telecom companies have. The FCC and Congress are against this plan because they feel they can get more money for this spectrum from AT&T and Verizon than they can from Clear Channel or CBS. So radio is forced to stay in analog land.
alok said:
You misunderstand my point. I didn't say that AM Radio was becoming obsolete. I said that opening a new FM band would make all current radios without those new channels obsolete. But that having new channels would not be enough of a motivation to get the public to replace their obsolete FM radios.
alok said:
People are not buying radios of any kind. That includes satellite or internet radios. People get satellite radios installed for free in all new cars. Then they decide if they want to subscribe. But no one pays for a satellite radio. And internet radios are selling at a slower rate than HD radios, if that's possible. The Consumer Electronics Association has done nothing to promote new radio sales. So there is no chance that the entire population would go out and spend money to buy new radios just because it's digital. The majority would be satisfied to continue listening to what they already own. They prove it every day.
crainbebo said:I bought a radio last November (a Grundig G8 AM/FM/SW model). So I did buy a radio after all!
Hooray for you. The sale of one radio in a country of 350 million really moves the meters.
DavidKaye said:
Especially when it's most likely a syndicated show, also available locally.
DavidKaye said:crainbebo said:I bought a radio last November (a Grundig G8 AM/FM/SW model). So I did buy a radio after all!
-crainbebo
You're not a normal person; you're a DXer. Nobody in their right mind sits up late at night to hear a station clear across the country just to say they heard it.
Agree. This breed of person is dying off. I received Z100 on clear as day in Sacramento, CA last night... on my iPhone.
Being someone that used to DX, I get the nostalgia, it's just lost it's appeal to me.
Well I do enjoy listening to AM at night, away from power sources. Listening to KGO, KFBK, KSL, KOA and KEX at night is NOT what a lot of people do anymore, yes, but I do enjoy that feeling when I get a new station on FM or AM.
Did you know there's no listen live link for 1340 KQJZ in Evergreen, MT, which I've logged in the past before in the graveyard mess? Or no listen live link for Talk Radio 1400 KSPT in Sandpoint, ID? Both I've logged at night with IDs or format matches.
-crainbebo
Did you know there's no listen live link for 1340 KQJZ in Evergreen, MT, which I've logged in the past before in the graveyard mess? Or no listen live link for Talk Radio 1400 KSPT in Sandpoint, ID? Both I've logged at night with IDs or format matches.
-crainbebo
stewie said:
No, DXing hasn't been a mainstream activity since the 1920s when radio was a hobby much the way cars are today. In the 1920s there were radio magazines that taught people how to wind coils and DX across the country. But as companies began to manufacture radios and they became cheaper the radio hobby pretty much became extinct.
Since the late 1920s the only people interested in DX were elderly men and 13 year old boys, and fairly anti-social ones at that. That's it. Nobody else was interested. This is why radio stations, even those clear channel monsters like KGO and KNBR don't try to sell their out-of-market audience. It's not significant.
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