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Andre out at Party

Unfortunately, TMO is not a company that knows a good thing when it sees it, except perhaps when they saw the 62 million big ones waved in their faces and they sold 92.7. I've made this point before, but I might as well mention it again...TMO is just the most directionless company I've ever seen. It's been format change after format change, tweak after tweak, firing and rehiring the same staffers, retiring formats, bringing back retired formats, retiring them again, bringing them back again, changing call signs, changing transmitter locations, patenting the "channelcasting" idea, abandoning the channelcasting idea, bending FCC rules with their transmitter heights, setting up simulcasts, taking down simulcasts, shutting down the Vanderbilt (and a few other successive facilities in the same location after that..remember Palmer's Bar and Grill?).

Recently Party 105 really found its groove again and now, with the summer season on its way and the party-goers set to come out to the Hamptons, they go and fire the man who has been with Party since the beginning.

I don't know what their plans are for Party 105 but if 'LIR is any indication, the news probably won't be good. :-[

When they sold 92.7 for $62 million, they promised to reinvest that money to serve Long Island, through the LI Press and their three radio stations. Four years later, the Press has seen cutbacks and is basically the same paper that it was then, the radio stations are practically run out of a closet, and one of them has been LMA'ed to ESPN. It's pretty pathetic.
 
You're right... the "execs" at TMO aren't qualified to run a deli, nevermind a group of radio stations. Andre is a talented guy. He'll turn up somewhere. I just hope TMO took care of him. I doubt it though. Let me guess... Vic Latino is going to save Party? ZGive me a break. Besides Vic yapping in front of any camera he sees, has there been any buzz about any of the TMO stations? NONE!!! You know why? Because no one at TMO including Vic, has any clue what it takes to run a commercially viable radio group. TMO gave VIC a peice of the action with absolutely experience in satation management, let alone ownership. Who does something like that? Only the genius' at TMO. They deserve all the failure they can muster up. And something tells me, they ain't done failing yet!!!
 
RobRosen said:
You're right... the "execs" at TMO aren't qualified to run a deli, nevermind a group of radio stations. Andre is a talented guy. He'll turn up somewhere. I just hope TMO took care of him. I doubt it though. Let me guess... Vic Latino is going to save Party? ZGive me a break. Besides Vic yapping in front of any camera he sees, has there been any buzz about any of the TMO stations? NONE!!! You know why? Because no one at TMO including Vic, has any clue what it takes to run a commercially viable radio group. TMO gave VIC a peice of the action with absolutely experience in satation management, let alone ownership. Who does something like that? Only the genius' at TMO. They deserve all the failure they can muster up. And something tells me, they ain't done failing yet!!!
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And that's my biggest fear. What exactly is going to happen NEXT?? Does Party 105.3 become another ESPN outlet??? It's a shame if that should happen because there are some really good folks over there. And Andre is definitely a good guy, one I'd recommend in a milli-second for another radio programming gig, especially when it comes to dance music.
 
Tony, First and Foremost thank you for directing me to this sector from the New York board when I asked for Vic Latino. I have worked with Vic in the past in Orlando to be exact. In reference to RobRosen, it is one thing to have a bitter taste in your mouth, and if so then say it. To deny someone's talent and recognition is another. In 1998 Vic Latino and Skyy started the Party dance format. In 1999 Vic Latino started the successful Party dance format in Orlando, In 2001 Vic Returned to NYC as a top rated evening personality. If anyone knows the Party Dance format I think the answer is Vic. As far as TMO History and tactics I have never worked for them but to tarnish and bash someone as talented as Vic is un-called for. I never worked with Andre but from what I am reading he is a very well liked guy in the dance world, but honestly from an outsider looking in... 16 years in a small market station what market #260.... until recently, You're right TMO needs to open their eyes... and look to see who is actually working and sitting around collecting a check. I mean come on... if in fact you say Party never became anything in the last few years well then you have your answer in the pd's dismissal.. Its not rocket science...

Big Lou
 
Hey Lou... get over it. I didn't say anything about Vic that wasn't true. He was given a piece of the pie without any experience besides being a jock. A good jock. He is an incredible self promoter and TMO bit the bait. Truth be told... I've never even met him. But you read these boards and you'd think that Vic latino was actually the guy that parted the sea, not moses. This is not about VIC. It's about all of the horrible decisions made by TMO over the years. In my opinion, VIc is just another one of those decisions. I am entitled to an opinion...right?
 
Fellas...in this case, it really is a question of a "rock and a hard place".

I did hear Vic back in the days of 95.3 Party in Orlando as well as Party 105 during the early years. The man IS knowledgeable regarding the music...he isn't just a voice talking about "crackalacking" and questions that stump. At the same time, Andre is knowledgeable too! I DO remember the years from 'LIR when they were flirting with dance around 2001. We actually had a petition drive going to TMO stating that Party 105 should SIMULCAST their signal on 92.7. They would have had BIGGER ratings had they done so since there was an outcry for a current rhythmic format over here. But hey, if an offer came to me for $62 million to sell the frequency...then, why not I suppose. :-\

I'm not going to get into the entire politics here, because there definitely appears to be "politics". But let's face it, you had TWO powerful guys in the dance music industry at the same station..one who has been there for a long time, the other going through the major markets and developing a reputation in the process. It's not fair and I'm certainly not going to take sides on this because Andre and Vic are both good guys here. Though the major premise is about change. And to that, I will say it again, I HOPE that whatever changes that will be happening there (because be sure something IS going to happen) isn't as radical as it was in 2004 where the loyal dance music crowd is shuttered away for hip-hop/R&B. Pulse 87 can't go that far out into the island. And be sure we will speak out about it! I can guarantee that.
 
WKRPJUNKIE said:
Tony, First and Foremost thank you for directing me to this sector from the New York board when I asked for Vic Latino. I have worked with Vic in the past in Orlando to be exact. In reference to RobRosen, it is one thing to have a bitter taste in your mouth, and if so then say it. To deny someone's talent and recognition is another. In 1998 Vic Latino and Skyy started the Party dance format. In 1999 Vic Latino started the successful Party dance format in Orlando, In 2001 Vic Returned to NYC as a top rated evening personality. If anyone knows the Party Dance format I think the answer is Vic. As far as TMO History and tactics I have never worked for them but to tarnish and bash someone as talented as Vic is un-called for. I never worked with Andre but from what I am reading he is a very well liked guy in the dance world, but honestly from an outsider looking in... 16 years in a small market station what market #260.... until recently, You're right TMO needs to open their eyes... and look to see who is actually working and sitting around collecting a check. I mean come on... if in fact you say Party never became anything in the last few years well then you have your answer in the pd's dismissal.. Its not rocket science...

Big Lou
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Not to take away from everything else you said, but it's inaccurate to say that Andre has been in market #260...Party is considered part of the LI market even if the signal does not cover all of it, but he was also part of 'LIR for years back when it was on 92.7 and could be heard best in the most populated parts of LI (all of Nassau County and Western Suffolk) plus many parts of NYC, Westchester, etc, including I believe Music Director duties for a while....that's a pretty decent resume that he can take elsewhere. Personally, I think Andre would sound fantastic on Pulse :)
 
Did Andre get fired or did he resign? I've heard both stories now..
 
I would gladly commute from central NJ to be program director of Party 105.3 (or in this day and age, I could program it remotely)
 
Nick said:
I would gladly commute from central NJ to be program director of Party 105.3 (or in this day and age, I could program it remotely)
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you really would??? after all you've read about TMO you'd still put yourself through it???

you are either a masochist or someone who really REALLY wants to get into radio. ::)
 
Nick said:
I would gladly commute from central NJ to be program director of Party 105.3 (or in this day and age, I could program it remotely)
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The person that SHOULD be PD'ing Party 105 is Andre.

And, man the commute he had to do...it must've been decent bucks considering having to pay a toll every day along with the toll (human and auto) of driving out to Ronkonkoma.
 
Ronkonkoma ROCKS!....and there's no toll to get from Brooklyn or Queens to Suffolk County...and Vic Latino is a hometown boy,not to mention a *****STAR***!
 
Tony Santiago said:
Nick said:
I would gladly commute from central NJ to be program director of Party 105.3 (or in this day and age, I could program it remotely)
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The person that SHOULD be PD'ing Party 105 is Andre.

And, man the commute he had to do...it must've been decent bucks considering having to pay a toll every day along with the toll (human and auto) of driving out to Ronkonkoma.
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Giving Andre WAAAY TOO much credit. The voice behind Alternative WLIR, now he's a Dance Programming Genius??
I don't think so ....VIC IS THE GUY!!
 
See...and this is the REAL issue going down with what happened.....Andre vs. Vic. Let's call it for what it is because that's what has happened. And based on that, I'm actually surprised that Andre remained with the station for as long as he did during Vic's second tenure at the station since Party had changed a bit with more hip-hop and R&B added to the current dance.

I will say this....if Party even goes more dramatic with changes where dance music is shafted, all fingers WILL point to Vic. I would hate to see that because Vic is a good guy (he's cool with me anyway), but the dance music community will point their anger out.
 
lalumia said:
Ronkonkoma ROCKS!....and there's no toll to get from Brooklyn or Queens to Suffolk County...and Vic Latino is a hometown boy,not to mention a *****STAR***!
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I'll say it this way, Andre does not live anywhere on Long Island...even the NYC part.
 
As far as Andre commuting we already established that he doesn't live anywhere on the island and that he was at TMO for 16 years so I'm more inclined to believe he was let go or it was a mutual agreement. would anyone here leave a 16 year job without something else already lined up. As for VIC there is not a single person that should take away from his talent or ability. He has proven himself in every market he has worked in. The question is whether he can his career continue to flourish at TMO. He is doing on air operations and now programming. spreading yourself that thin is not conducive with success. all because TMO likes to nickel and dime. does bill gates also clean the bathrooms... no ..... Vic needs to do what he does best... promote promote promote ... that doesn't happen and the little chance TMO does have is gone.
 
Tony Santiago said:
See...and this is the REAL issue going down with what happened.....Andre vs. Vic. Let's call it for what it is because that's what has happened. And based on that, I'm actually surprised that Andre remained with the station for as long as he did during Vic's second tenure at the station since Party had changed a bit with more hip-hop and R&B added to the current dance.

I will say this....if Party even goes more dramatic with changes where dance music is shafted, all fingers WILL point to Vic. I would hate to see that because Vic is a good guy (he's cool with me anyway), but the dance music community will point their anger out.
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Vic won't do anything to hurt Dance at Party...c'mon..he's not only a great talent, he's an artist himself...selling HUGE amounts of Dance CD's all across the country. Vic is probably the most well known personality on LI radio and knows more people and artists in the dance industry than anyone.
 
Well that explains why I haven't heard him lately. I am not impressed with the direction the station is taking, they are playing too much hip hop and "booty" music, it's getting on my nerves. Vic Latino wants to get rid of the cutting edge element over there (Andre).
They've brought back Nikki, but it fits in with the "booty music" format Party is steering towards. It's been ages since I've heard ATB and the like on Party.
 
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